I think you can drop the whole "give Daniel crap for being late" thing. What was the harm, we still got there before anyone had even considered getting up to ride.. were we there on time, it would've just put us that much further ahead and that much longer to wait. I did us a favor and this is the thanks I get.. jeez. See if I help you out anymore. Same goes for Tellico. Would you rather have been waiting on those golf carts for 2 hours or 3? I opt for 2 'cause golf carts belong on the fairways not Slickrock.