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BigMike:
I understand what Clark is saying because where do you draw the line between what the government allows you to own and at what point does it infringe on your Liberty. Why is beer/liquor legal and not pot or cocaine? I'm a staunch defender of Liberty and the 2nd Amendment but wouldn't like the idea of people being able to buy RPG's. People with enough money can literally get anything they want. There is private ownership of P51 Mustangs and Sherman tanks.
As citizens that (are supposed to) control the government, how much Liberty do we want to surrender? Everyone sees it differently and most don't stop to think about what it really means to give up their Liberty. If the government can restrict your Liberty for one thing, what is to stop them for doing for another thing?
clark123456:
--- Quote from: BigMike on July 13, 2016, 09:36:39 AM ---I understand what Clark is saying because where do you draw the line between what the government allows you to own and at what point does it infringe on your Liberty. Why is beer/liquor legal and not pot or cocaine? I'm a staunch defender of Liberty and the 2nd Amendment but wouldn't like the idea of people being able to buy RPG's. People with enough money can literally get anything they want. There is private ownership of P51 Mustangs and Sherman tanks.
As citizens that (are supposed to) control the government, how much Liberty do we want to surrender? Everyone sees it differently and most don't stop to think about what it really means to give up their Liberty. If the government can restrict your Liberty for one thing, what is to stop them for doing for another thing?
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You do understand my point.
I was not trying to be provocative in my first response...I wasn't sure if there was an actual reason for armor piercing rounds...besides piercing armor (like bear hunting, hog hunting, etc.) if a civilian having armor piercing rounds is for 'just because' or 'piercing armor', I really didn't see the harm in making them unavailable to civilians, unless we fear a tyrannical government. If the reason is for stopping a tyrannical government, then I would push for their availability staying strong, and adding RPGs and other high level fire power to the list of things available.
Anvilsam:
i think you also have to look at what point does the government redefine what is armor piercing thus taking other projectiles out of the hands of law abiding people who are going to give up such items for fear of being prosecuted. Its just like the no fly list making it so people cant have guns. When does the govt change the criteria for adding you to said list? When you speak out against the president because you don't agree with his opinion? I personally have never seen the need for green tips (armor piercing) and i think that when people go out and buy them just because some crooked politician says they are going to ban them is crazy.
cru9:
You never know when you will need to shoot a round through and engine block.
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cru9:
--- Quote from: BigPrince on July 13, 2016, 04:05:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: cru9 on July 13, 2016, 03:58:37 PM ---You never know when you will need to shoot a round through and engine block.
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That's what the fiddy is for? :)
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Very true!
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