Not sure which way y’all are coming up from Helen , if you are coming up 197, turn left, go 2.5 miles to FS RD 163 ( popcorn trail) ) on left ( there is no sign) this will take you popcorn rd , turn left , this will take you to plum orchard , then to persimion ( turn left) then to Charlie’s creek.
If you are just doing Charlie’s, 163 is a nice add on.
There is on rutted our spot going downhill, just tell the newbies to straddle the ruts.