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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2008, 09:54:27 PM »
NO! :D
I've grown tired of this.

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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2008, 09:59:12 PM »
NO! :D

You wouldn't have an oil pan skid if I didn't pick it up for you that one time! I was just gonna flex on it and leave it on School Bus!

oohhhhhhh!!!   ~>}   (burn) 
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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2008, 10:05:52 PM »
I got my front diff guard for $35 from Oconee Offroad. If you looka nd search you will find about anything you want cheaper than just buying from the big namers. Just takes time but for me... every penny matters! It has taken me 8 years to get my Jeep they way I want it! :D
exactly, I only spend money on my jeep twice a year, at my birthday (last friday) and Christmas, so it's a slow process and I try to get the best deal possible and make sure I have some sort of a plan before every purchase.  I forgot about Oconee, I'll check them out.  I know where I'm trying to get with my rig, and like you it's gonna take a few years to get there.
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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2008, 10:09:20 PM »
Never mind what Will says. Yes, I "knicked" it. But the armor served the purpose. Burn this ()()
I've grown tired of this.

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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2008, 10:21:58 PM »
I love it when you girls go at it!  LMAO!  ;D

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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 10:22:06 PM »
Never mind what Will says. Yes, I "knicked" it. But the armor served the purpose. Burn this ()()

Watch me bust the oil pan on some roadkill tomorrow.  :-\  I need to shut up.

Hey Ben, I tried to call you and ask you about your RE discos, but you didn't answer... lame. I got it figured out though. Larry sent me his Gen II discos. Put those on and also got my seat covers and grab handles slapped in. Got pics of everything, but my card reader is at my house and I'm house/dog sitting for my sister this week. I'll pick it up tomorrow after work though.f
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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2008, 10:24:56 PM »
I love it when you girls go at it!  LMAO!  ;D

Hey... you.... I got nothin'.

Oh! You no sway bar disconnectin' dude!  ;D

Sorry for destroying your thread man!  {btt}
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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2008, 10:33:02 PM »
I love it when you girls go at it!  LMAO!  ;D
Oh! You no sway bar disconnectin' dude!  ;D
I'm making a few changes as we speak.  SURPRISE!
And to think I could hang with you guys with it locked!

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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2008, 10:34:11 PM »
I love it when you girls go at it!  LMAO!  ;D
Oh! You no sway bar disconnectin' dude!  ;D
I'm making a few changes as we speak.  SURPRISE!
And to think I could hang with you guys with it locked!


Good lord! What did you buy now? .... Can I have the SwayLoc?  ;D


edit: haha "SURPRISE!"    :D
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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2008, 11:01:27 PM »
Good lord! What did you buy now? .... Can I have the SwayLoc?  ;D

Uhhh, no, sorry.   >:(  1 of my favorites now.  So while we're on MODS, let me add that it's a really sick mod that is far more complex and valuable than I previously knew.  I really didn't understand all the benefits until the few days.  I'm working on articulation, a tail pipe, and a few other odds and ends, and have been digging into the SwayLOC, and what exactly it does.  It does NOT disconnect the sway bar, but uses a weaker bar to provide stability and balance, additional traction through pressure, and extremely easy use while only sacrificing 3-4% of articulation.  It even has 4 levels of support for the road, and soft support for off road.

Here are some notes I found:
The point of the SwayLOC is balance. You give up what I would say is negligible wheel travel and what you gain is stability and traction.    How?

Balance
The OE rear and Anti-Rock/SwayLOC front swaybars work in concert to keep the suspension forces balanced between the two axles. The aftermarket bars have thinner-than-stock offroad bars so that the front doesn't overpower the rear end. With the forces more balanced the chassis tends to be much more stable and "level" on rough terrain such that you don't have one end or the other trying to dominate such as disco'ing the front but with the OE rear swaybar hooked up.

Stability
The other benefit is improved stability in off-camber trail conditions. With a disco'd rig there is nothing to resist leaning when the jeep is in an off-camber situation. It just leans to the side. This can exacerbate potential roll-over situations.  With SwayLOC/Anti-rock there is a front swaybar to provide some roll resistance which helps with stability.

Traction
This gets back to the balance somewhat. With suspension forces better balanced between front and rear axles there more even forces transfered to the tires and a more even distribution of weigh/traction to the ground.

Dynamic Trail Conditions
Having an offroad swaybar equipped Jeep does a better job overall of improving performance than simply having your front axle disco'd. There may be certain real or theoretical conditions where having a disco'd front axle might be better. But it's only in those specific rare circumstances. If you consider the other 99.9% of the time having the front axle connected via offroad swaybar will give you so many more and tangible benefits.

The front axle is ALWAYS connected. What these two bars offer is simply a softer swaybar for offroading that allows 94-96% of the articulation as being disconnected but with all the benefits of keeping a swaybar hooked up.

Ease of Use
This to me is a side benefit which at times is VERY much appreciated. First and foremost these swaybar systems are for traction and stability. But at the start and end of the day it's SO NICE not having to mess with quick disconnects, pins, and fighting you swaybar to re-connect the links.

SwayLOC vs. Anti-rock
In many ways the off-road performance of the Anti-rock and SwayLOC is near identicle. I honestly couldn't tell the difference after switching from the Anti-rock (which I ran for 2 years) to the SwayLOC. The BIG difference is ON THE STREET. The Anti-rock is a single-rate OFFROAD swaybar. On road it's a bit soft. It still does the job of a swaybar but it allows more sway and roll before you get resistance.

The SwayLOC has TWO swaybars, a thinner, softer offroad swaybar that is ALWAYS hooked up and a thicker, stiffer swaybar that can be super easily engaged at the flip of a lever.

As much as I looooved my Anti-rock the SwayLOC is 10 times better. Regaining that street-stability and flat cornering felt like I got a brand new Jeep. Most people who have disco's won't experience this as you leave the swaybar hooked up on the road. But for any who currently have an Anti-rock you'll LOVE the SwayLOC even more. 
So, the SwayLOCs and ARs aren't better because they say Currie or ORO on the side. They are better because of the benefits they offer to the Jeep on the trail, and on the road in the case of the SwayLOC.

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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 07:43:51 AM »
Swayloc Swayloc smayloc.... All this talk about sway bars makes me glad I can put it in 4wd, hit a button and I am disconnected  8)

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Re: Armor Advice
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 08:03:13 AM »
Swayloc Swayloc smayloc.... All this talk about sway bars makes me glad I can put it in 4wd, hit a button and I am disconnected  8)
LOL!   :D  But that's the whole jist, disconnected ain't as good!  ;D

EDIT: But a switch on the dash is cool.  Perhaps the Rubi does apply some light pressure when it's disconnected as well.  It would be interesting to know.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 08:12:42 AM by Doug »

 



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