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Offline Ben H.

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2008, 11:15:05 PM »
We have shirts up here that on the front say NOBAMA with the no in orange and the bama in crimson. And then on the back they say McCain 08 like a jersey. They are pretty cool shirts.
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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2008, 09:14:25 AM »
Bar Stool Economics/ How our current tax system works:

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it
would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every
day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner
threw them a curve.

'Since you are all such good customers, he said, 'I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily beer by $20. Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But
what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide
the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair  share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would
each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's
bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the
amounts each should pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%  savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before and the first four continued
to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to
compare their savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20', declared the sixth man. He pointed
to the tenth man,' but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right', exclaimed the
fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten
times more than I!' 'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he
get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison.  'We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!' The nine men surrounded
the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks,  so the nine sat
down and had beers without him.

But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something
important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even
half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our
tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might
start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is  somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is  possible.

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2008, 09:17:36 PM »


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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2008, 09:54:16 PM »
Must. Support. Socialism.
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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2008, 11:52:55 PM »
we are alrady planning riot parties... you know, instead of watching just the election and going home everyone is gonna stay up late to watch the big cities burn because if he looses they will riot and claim its unfair, if he wins they will flip over cars anyways just to celebrate. its gonna be awesome :)

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2008, 09:11:10 AM »
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2008, 10:29:34 AM »
^ i saw that posted on pirate, great stuff.

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2008, 07:05:02 AM »
Good luck today everyone. The fit's gonna hit the shan on the streets tonight!
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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2008, 07:16:43 AM »
Yeah, your right Jimmy. I am up watching this stuff since 550am. All of you stay safe no matter the outcome. Common sense ain't so common!  :bs)

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2008, 07:37:55 AM »
Megan and I were talking about this last night...

There have been 3 (I think) elections in history where the candidate who won the popular vote did not win the electoral college vote and therefore did not become president. Can you imagine what will happen if Barrak (sp) wins popular and McCain wins Electoral... riots in the street!

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2008, 08:28:32 AM »
guess i need to go out and buy my guns now cause come april gun sales are goin to be far apart.... a 500% increase on gun and ammo sales tax...wow....

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Re: If you are thinking about voting for O-bomb-a
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2008, 08:59:25 AM »
guess i need to go out and buy my guns now cause come april gun sales are goin to be far apart.... a 500% increase on gun and ammo sales tax...wow....

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