Post by: flashover101 on August 03, 2018, 08:19:16 PM
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Post by: tcdawg on August 03, 2018, 09:16:41 PM
I’m planning a trip to Nevada next year with my brothers to the Rubicon Trail. Looking to hear from anyone that has experience with the Trail. Im considering shipping the Jeep out but would rather spend a few days driving and stopping at different spots along the way. Any of you done this in the past?
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Zero experience on the Rubicon. But, very interested in going. Next year may not work for me but, then again, maybe it could.
Shipping is going to cost you $1200 to $1500...one way. If you had a couple rigs you might get it down to $1000a rig. But you still have a very logistical headache.
Me, I would tow out. It’s a heck of a haul though. The Rubicon is a bucket list thing for me.
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Post by: jc79 on August 04, 2018, 12:10:49 AM
Post by: BigPrince on August 04, 2018, 12:25:26 AM
35 hour drive from Marietta!
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Post by: jd30005 on August 04, 2018, 06:43:28 AM
Post by: clark123456 on August 04, 2018, 07:20:15 AM
John, bring the wife...she'll love the quality time and scenery.
I'd either have to do the 4-5 days out, 4-5 days back thing with some good food/stops along the way, or buy a double and split drive time.
Pencil me in for next year if I am still living in Atlanta. If I live in Colorado, pen me in.
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Post by: flashover101 on August 04, 2018, 07:25:04 AM
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Post by: Chris36l on August 04, 2018, 08:21:38 AM
I’ve seen videos of rigs on 37’s doing the rubicon. I think it’s more so the line you choose to take than anything. Looked like there was stuff for just about every build size out there. The rubicon is definitely one of my bucket list items. I would most likely drive/haul cross country and plan accordingly for site seeing and iconic food along the way.
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Post by: Chris36l on August 04, 2018, 02:00:00 PM
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Post by: Scott F. on August 05, 2018, 06:30:24 PM
Willys running the Rubicon trail. I like the color of that blue one with the skinny swampers.
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Post by: thetastelingers on August 30, 2018, 07:28:36 AM
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip???
Post by: tcdawg on August 30, 2018, 08:37:01 AM
I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Post by: thetastelingers on August 30, 2018, 10:18:17 AM
I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Fuel for the round trip would be about $1200+/- depending on current prices anyway. Plus food and housing.
An extra $1200 for the 4-6 days you would lose doesn't sound that bad.
Post by: DOUG on August 30, 2018, 10:43:13 AM
I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Fuel for the round trip would be about $1200+/- depending on current prices anyway. Plus food and housing.
An extra $1200 for the 4-6 days you would lose doesn't sound that bad.
Plus the $ airfare and as much as 30 days on the front end and back end without your rig for the lowest cost. The vehicle changes carriers in carrier hubs like freight. A direct haul is much more expensive. I am in CA frequently and the cost to have my rig meet me there is just nuts.
Post by: BigPrince on August 30, 2018, 10:45:28 AM
I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Fuel for the round trip would be about $1200+/- depending on current prices anyway. Plus food and housing.
An extra $1200 for the 4-6 days you would lose doesn't sound that bad.
If I did the Rubicon I would plan my trip to include seeing family, stopping for sight seeing, and getting food from iconic places along the route. I consider that half the fun and life experience. After the 5th time through you get a bit tired of the Kansas flatness but the first time seeing and experiencing that is awesome. The night sky being lit up by flashing red beacons on all the wind turbines as far as you can see. The soul moving beautiful drive from Denver to Grand Junction on I70. The engine roar on the run up Eisenhower pass. The quirky weird ambiance, delicious breakfast, and great friends all around one table in Leadville (and subsequent almost passing out just walking down the street from the thin air). The Moab meals from folks who traveled there brought from all over - Texas Brisket from Driftwood Tx, KC BBQ from the #1 KC BBQ joint, St Louis style pizza from STL, low country boil with crawdads and shrimp from Mississippi. The massive Texas sized steak lunch with great friends. The trip can be fulfilling in it's own way.
Post by: flashover101 on August 30, 2018, 11:08:58 AM
Well said Don...When I go, I will be driving and doing the same. So much to see and do.I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Fuel for the round trip would be about $1200+/- depending on current prices anyway. Plus food and housing.
An extra $1200 for the 4-6 days you would lose doesn't sound that bad.
If I did the Rubicon I would plan my trip to include seeing family, stopping for sight seeing, and getting food from iconic places along the route. I consider that half the fun and life experience. After the 5th time through you get a bit tired of the Kansas flatness but the first time seeing and experiencing that is awesome. The night sky being lit up by flashing red beacons on all the wind turbines as far as you can see. The soul moving beautiful drive from Denver to Grand Junction on I70. The engine roar on the run up Eisenhower pass. The quirky weird ambiance, delicious breakfast, and great friends all around one table in Leadville (and subsequent almost passing out just walking down the street from the thin air). The Moab meals from folks who traveled there brought from all over - Texas Brisket from Driftwood Tx, KC BBQ from the #1 KC BBQ joint, St Louis style pizza from STL, low country boil with crawdads and shrimp from Mississippi. The massive Texas sized steak lunch with great friends. The trip can be fulfilling in it's own way.
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Post by: thetastelingers on August 30, 2018, 11:17:29 AM
I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Fuel for the round trip would be about $1200+/- depending on current prices anyway. Plus food and housing.
An extra $1200 for the 4-6 days you would lose doesn't sound that bad.QuotePlus the $ airfare and as much as 30 days on the front end and back end without your rig for the lowest cost. The vehicle changes carriers in carrier hubs like freight. A direct haul is much more expensive. I am in CA frequently and the cost to have my rig meet me there is just nuts.
If I did the Rubicon I would plan my trip to include seeing family, stopping for sight seeing, and getting food from iconic places along the route. I consider that half the fun and life experience. After the 5th time through you get a bit tired of the Kansas flatness but the first time seeing and experiencing that is awesome. The night sky being lit up by flashing red beacons on all the wind turbines as far as you can see. The soul moving beautiful drive from Denver to Grand Junction on I70. The engine roar on the run up Eisenhower pass. The quirky weird ambiance, delicious breakfast, and great friends all around one table in Leadville (and subsequent almost passing out just walking down the street from the thin air). The Moab meals from folks who traveled there brought from all over - Texas Brisket from Driftwood Tx, KC BBQ from the #1 KC BBQ joint, St Louis style pizza from STL, low country boil with crawdads and shrimp from Mississippi. The massive Texas sized steak lunch with great friends. The trip can be fulfilling in it's own way.
Good points.
So.... Caravan to Rubicon? LOL
Post by: jd30005 on August 30, 2018, 11:22:25 AM
I agree with Don's points. In addition, I like the idea of having my own trailer and all of my spare parts/tools with me. I've only done the trip west once last year and I really enjoyed the convoy approach. The biggest lesson learned for me would be to have a co-pilot in the truck to share some driving time (particularly on the trip back home).Well said Don...When I go, I will be driving and doing the same. So much to see and do.I've been thinking of doing the same thing. Shipping my rig out to a friends house in Cali and flying out to run the trail. Time being the most valuable thing these days.
If you are 2 years out, I would be interested in doing the same thing.
Group trip
Budget $1200 out and $1200 back for shipping.
More if you need it picked up at specific times.
Fuel for the round trip would be about $1200+/- depending on current prices anyway. Plus food and housing.
An extra $1200 for the 4-6 days you would lose doesn't sound that bad.
If I did the Rubicon I would plan my trip to include seeing family, stopping for sight seeing, and getting food from iconic places along the route. I consider that half the fun and life experience. After the 5th time through you get a bit tired of the Kansas flatness but the first time seeing and experiencing that is awesome. The night sky being lit up by flashing red beacons on all the wind turbines as far as you can see. The soul moving beautiful drive from Denver to Grand Junction on I70. The engine roar on the run up Eisenhower pass. The quirky weird ambiance, delicious breakfast, and great friends all around one table in Leadville (and subsequent almost passing out just walking down the street from the thin air). The Moab meals from folks who traveled there brought from all over - Texas Brisket from Driftwood Tx, KC BBQ from the #1 KC BBQ joint, St Louis style pizza from STL, low country boil with crawdads and shrimp from Mississippi. The massive Texas sized steak lunch with great friends. The trip can be fulfilling in it's own way.
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Post by: Blue J on August 30, 2018, 12:07:19 PM
lots of good info.
Post by: tjsahara00 on August 30, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
The trip back is when I had to let my daughter drive some.
Post by: Will on August 30, 2018, 05:09:57 PM
Post by: Will on August 30, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
I will also need to acquire a drone before going out there. Amazing views.
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Post by: flashover101 on August 30, 2018, 06:24:48 PM
This guy has a couple of videos on the Rubicon but I like how this one highlights preparations.I subscribe and enjoy his channel. He just did the Trail this year.
I will also need to acquire a drone before going out there. Amazing views.
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Post by: thetastelingers on August 31, 2018, 04:40:17 PM
Post by: Will on September 04, 2018, 10:44:27 AM
Jeep just took 20-something stock JL Rubicons and journalists through the Rubicon in 2 days. They started at Loon Lake.
Post by: TravisMac on September 04, 2018, 01:22:26 PM
Long video, but some good info and the most shots that I've seen of the current shape of the trail.
Jeep just took 20-something stock JL Rubicons and journalists through the Rubicon in 2 days. They started at Loon Lake.
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Bypasses? Or has it just gotten that easy?
Post by: Will on September 04, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
Bypasses? Or has it just gotten that easy?
What is your baseline? Have you run the Rubicon before?
Post by: TravisMac on September 04, 2018, 03:58:57 PM
Baseline being the reputation of the trail and this video of a bunch of stock JLs running it. That’s why I’m asking - are they taking bypasses or has it gotten easier. Comments above make it seem like the trail has changed for the easier
Bypasses? Or has it just gotten that easy?
What is your baseline? Have you run the Rubicon before?
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Post by: Big Dave on September 04, 2018, 04:14:43 PM
#cheapazz
Post by: Will on September 04, 2018, 04:38:47 PM
Baseline being the reputation of the trail and this video of a bunch of stock JLs running it. That’s why I’m asking - are they taking bypasses or has it gotten easier. Comments above make it seem like the trail has changed for the easier
Bypasses? Or has it just gotten that easy?
What is your baseline? Have you run the Rubicon before?
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Well this might as well be coming from my rear because I have never been there, but what I have gathered over the years of seeing photos/videos and reading stories I don't think it has changed very much in the past few years; no more than all trails will, from year to year. There are some bypasses and harder lines in some areas.
From what I've seen, most people who run it recommend 37" tires, locked front and rear. That being said, you can obviously get through it in a Rubicon on 33s but it looks like you're in for a much bigger challenge and plenty of bumping and scraping if you do. And judging by that video, having an army of Jeep Jamboree guys spotting you and doing your recoveries for you probably makes it an easier run also. It's my understanding that Jeep has always tested Rubicons, in stock form, on the Rubicon Trail since 2003. El Dorado County does maintain it to ensure public access so things like erosion control and avoiding environmental impact are on their priority list.
What may be the hardest part is that the whole trail is rocky and technical. It's remote, 22 miles long, and once you are out there, you are out there. It's in the middle of the Sierra Nevada mountains and there is no cell service. If you are 10-miles in and break down without the part you need, you might as well start walking because you can walk out faster than you can drive out. That's part of the mystique and what gives it the reputation that it has. That and it is one of the oldest Jeep trails in the country with some awesome history.
I remember seeing a video in 2006 from the Jeep Jamboree that year and I knew that I had to make it out there eventually.
Post by: BigPrince on September 04, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
Baseline being the reputation of the trail and this video of a bunch of stock JLs running it. That’s why I’m asking - are they taking bypasses or has it gotten easier. Comments above make it seem like the trail has changed for the easier
Bypasses? Or has it just gotten that easy?
What is your baseline? Have you run the Rubicon before?
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Well this might as well be coming from my rear because I have never been there, but what I have gathered over the years of seeing photos/videos and reading stories I don't think it has changed very much in the past few years; no more than all trails will, from year to year. There are some bypasses and harder lines in some areas.
From what I've seen, most people who run it recommend 37" tires, locked front and rear. That being said, you can obviously get through it in a Rubicon on 33s but it looks like you're in for a much bigger challenge and plenty of bumping and scraping if you do. And judging by that video, having an army of Jeep Jamboree guys spotting you and doing your recoveries for you probably makes it an easier run also. It's my understanding that Jeep has always tested Rubicons, in stock form, on the Rubicon Trail since 2003. El Dorado County does maintain it to ensure public access so things like erosion control and avoiding environmental impact are on their priority list.
What may be the hardest part is that the whole trail is rocky and technical. It's remote, 22 miles long, and once you are out there, you are out there. It's in the middle of the Sierra Nevada mountains and there is no cell service. If you are 10-miles in and break down without the part you need, you might as well start walking because you can walk out faster than you can drive out. That's part of the mystique and what gives it the reputation that it has. That and it is one of the oldest Jeep trails in the country with some awesome history.
I remember seeing a video in 2006 from the Jeep Jamboree that year and I knew that I had to make it out there eventually.
They actually 'fix' obstacles so it's not just a natural trail evolution.
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