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Title: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: Michigunman on December 09, 2015, 12:49:19 PM
Is it just me or others bothered by gun shops and ranges that post signs saying no carry/no loaded weapons?  I personally think this is bad business and bad for the RKBA cause.  They will sell you guns, ammo, training and range time but then don't want you to carry in their establishment.  The common answer is that they are concerned about someone drawing their gun to test a holster or for whatever other reason.

I get the whole "carry anywhere" idea but that's not what this is about.  To me it says if the people selling guns and training the owners don't want them carrying why should anyone else?

There is a shop/range 10 minutes from my house that I try to avoid for this reason.  It would be so convenient for a quick trip to the range but I don't feel like supporting them.

Any other thoughts?  Am I missing something or being to critical?
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: DOUG on December 09, 2015, 01:06:29 PM
Because of dum asses like I showed in the other thread in the video carrying loaded in the shop and didn't really even know, and could easily kill someone.  Just a high rate of gun handling by the general public and they don't want to get shot. 
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: BigMike on December 09, 2015, 01:16:42 PM
I won't go to a gun shop that has a no carry policy. 

Sharp Shooters in Alpharetta/Roswell allows carrying.  Bullseye in Cumming doesn't allow carrying in their store.
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: patman on December 09, 2015, 01:47:20 PM
I think the reasoning is that people (shoppers and employees) in gun shops ASSume all the guns are on display and not loaded. Would be bad to test out that new holster and in the meantime set a loaded gun on the the table that some moron picks up thinking it's empty.

Or... walk in with an empty holster, look at some pistols and wait for the clerk to get busy, walk out with new gun on your hip?
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: Jeepster1407 on December 09, 2015, 02:20:48 PM
I think the reasoning is that people (shoppers and employees) in gun shops ASSume all the guns are on display and not loaded. Would be bad to test out that new holster and in the meantime set a loaded gun on the the table that some moron picks up thinking it's empty.

Your probably right. Not everyone thinks like us when it comes to weapons. Treat every gun as if its loaded until YOU have determined it isn't.
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: BigMike on December 09, 2015, 02:32:49 PM
Any of you guys remember Nick's Guns in Marietta?  It is something else now but they have a range.

I was in there about 5 years ago using the range.  These two girls were next to me and didn't have the first clue what they were doing and broke every gun rule ever written.  After 2 minutes of watching them, I went up front to the counter and told the ranger officer that those two were going to end up killing someone. 

Dawsonville Gun and Pawn allows carrying in their store.
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: Michigunman on December 09, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
I won't go to a gun shop that has a no carry policy. 

Sharp Shooters in Alpharetta/Roswell allows carrying.  Bullseye in Cumming doesn't allow carrying in their store.

Did Sharp Shooters change their policy?  I could have sworn the last/only time I went there they didn't.  That's been over a year though.

Bullseye is the one near me.  I'm left to either drive to Buford on the weekend to Dead Center Indoor Range or go to Norcross Gun Club and Range during or after work.  I may break down and use the Bullseye Range this weekend to get some rounds through the new G43.
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: jd30005 on December 09, 2015, 03:33:39 PM
@Michigunman - have you checked out the range in Johns Creek off McGinnis Ferry?  It's behind the plaza with the Dunkin Donuts.  I have driven by it but haven't checked it out.  Not sure how far that is for you. 



Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: Michigunman on December 09, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
@Michigunman - have you checked out the range in Johns Creek off McGinnis Ferry?  It's behind the plaza with the Dunkin Donuts.  I have driven by it but haven't checked it out.  Not sure how far that is for you. 


I'm not familiar with that one either John.  It's about 30 minutes from me same as Buford. I'll probably check it out on my way home one evening.

Thanks
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: cru9 on December 09, 2015, 05:49:12 PM
They up graded the range due to a fire and two people went in rented guns and killed themselves in the range
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: BigMike on December 09, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
They up graded the range due to a fire and two people went in rented guns and killed themselves in the range

Suicide?
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: cru9 on December 09, 2015, 06:03:59 PM
Yep twice
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: ATLSRT8 on December 09, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
@Michigunman - have you checked out the range in Johns Creek off McGinnis Ferry?  It's behind the plaza with the Dunkin Donuts.  I have driven by it but haven't checked it out.  Not sure how far that is for you. 


I'm not familiar with that one either John.  It's about 30 minutes from me same as Buford. I'll probably check it out on my way home one evening.

Thanks

I am right between Bullseye and the Johns Creek indoor range. I have stopped going to Bullseye all together. I do all my shooting at the new Johns Creek range located at Old Atlanta/Mcginnis
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: tcdawg on December 09, 2015, 10:48:31 PM

Any of you guys remember Nick's Guns in Marietta?  It is something else now but they have a range.

Haven't been there in ~6mo but it's GA Firing Line.  They upgraded the range a bit since then.  It was a pretty good store.  Had some nice cashiers to look at as well.  Not models but better than the normal gunshop commando.

I go to shoot at Georgia Firing Line. Good place to go.

Years ago I thought it was called Fred's?  Was it Nicks?
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: BigMike on December 10, 2015, 07:50:17 AM

Any of you guys remember Nick's Guns in Marietta?  It is something else now but they have a range.

Haven't been there in ~6mo but it's GA Firing Line.  They upgraded the range a bit since then.  It was a pretty good store.  Had some nice cashiers to look at as well.  Not models but better than the normal gunshop commando.

I go to shoot at Georgia Firing Line. Good place to go.

Years ago I thought it was called Fred's?  Was it Nicks?

I moved to ATL in '93 and it was Bud's or Bob's or something that started with a B.  Then it was Nick's. 

I moved into a new neighborhood in Acworth/Kennesaw in early Dec '94.  Had painters in doing punch list work.  I couldn't keep my eye on all of them.  One of them found my guns that I hadn't put up yet (still hadn't unpacked) and stole a brand new Beretta 92FS Stainless and a bunch of jewelry.  I didn't realize it for 2 weeks.  The guy was on parole and sold it for $75.  The cops got him and he went back to jail.  The gun was never recovered.

I called around for prices for the insurance company and Bud's/Bob's was the highest priced gun shop anywhere.  This was back when guns didn't sell anywhere near list price but he was almost full list price.  After that, I didn't go there for years until it was Nick's.  Always thought of the place as a ripoff.

I had the slide of my Ruger LCP Cerokoted at GA Firing Line.  They did a damn good job for only $65.  Now that I think about it, their price on the G43 was $10 less than I paid.  It would have saved me from driving all the way to Dawsonville.
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: cru9 on December 10, 2015, 07:50:47 AM
It was Ed's gun and tackle then Nick's and now Ga Fire Line
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: BigMike on December 10, 2015, 07:52:23 AM
It was Ed's gun and tackle then Nick's and now Ga Fire Line

BINGO - Ed's!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: clark123456 on December 10, 2015, 07:53:58 AM

Any of you guys remember Nick's Guns in Marietta?  It is something else now but they have a range.

Haven't been there in ~6mo but it's GA Firing Line.  They upgraded the range a bit since then.  It was a pretty good store.  Had some nice cashiers to look at as well.  Not models but better than the normal gunshop commando.

I go to shoot at Georgia Firing Line. Good place to go.

Years ago I thought it was called Fred's?  Was it Nicks?

I moved to ATL in '93 and it was Bud's or Bob's or something that started with a B. 

Whenever I do that, be assured it starts with some other letter...almost never fails.

- Torg

Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: BigMike on December 10, 2015, 08:08:09 AM


Whenever I do that, be assured it starts with some other letter...almost never fails.

- Torg



B / E ... they rhyme  220/221, whatever it takes :)
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: Enoch_R00t on December 11, 2015, 03:11:49 PM
I can see the logic behind not allowing loaded firearms in the store. There is an implied assumption that the clientele don't understand proper firearms safety. Or that some excited young buck is going to whip out his blaster to show someone else in the store and AD.

This made sense to me until I walked in my LGS and watched a sales person painting customers with an AK pattern rifle from behind the counter. Obviously the asshole behind the counter knew as much about gun safety as the average gun owner.

There are idiots every where.
Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: gint2 on December 11, 2015, 05:26:43 PM

I can see the logic behind not allowing loaded firearms in the store. There is an implied assumption that the clientele don't understand proper firearms safety. Or that some excited young buck is going to whip out his blaster to show someone else in the store and AD.

This made sense to me until I walked in my LGS and watched a sales person painting customers with an AK pattern rifle from behind the counter. Obviously the asshole behind the counter knew as much about gun safety as the average gun owner.

There are idiots every where.

I would have called him out right there on the spot.  No asking for a manager, just a good old fashion ass chewing. Then walked out.   

To the topic, I know when I'm in a gun store, I'm feeling a bit safer knowing the sign says no loaded weapons.  There are a lot of yahoos out there and I don't want to fall victim to some asshat that doesn't know how to handle his pee shooter. At least in the range lanes, most of the time the business end is pointed down range. 


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Title: Re: Gun Shops/Ranges - Anti Carry
Post by: Big Dave on December 11, 2015, 06:29:42 PM
The Fox Hole in Gainesville has a sign that says "Concealed weapons are welcome here, just keep them in the holster unless the need arises & then accurate marksmanship is appreciated."