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Title: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: TravisMac on April 16, 2019, 03:34:19 PM
Apparently a spectator was standing near a Youtube JL when he floored it over an obstacle. Airlifted out and lost her leg. Good reminder to pay attention to your surroundings and don't assume a driver can see you over their hood
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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: thetastelingers on April 16, 2019, 04:39:10 PM
Rumor is the throttle stuck. That's just hearsay though.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Will on April 16, 2019, 05:58:01 PM
Haven’t seen any first-person remarks on what exactly happened, but it doesn’t  sound good.

He’s got a YouTube channel called American Jeeper. From my very unprofessional opinion, I never got the feeling that he had a lot of wheeling experience.

Very sad to see.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: TravisMac on April 16, 2019, 06:01:01 PM
these YouTube wheelers with their dumbass gas cans and bullshit strapped to their rigs are going to be the death of the sport [oldskool]
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: clark123456 on April 16, 2019, 06:45:37 PM
Damn.

The battery looks like it didn't have a good mount...I'm surprised on a new rig.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: tcdawg on April 16, 2019, 06:57:32 PM
Stuck throttle...on a drive-by-wire....sounds odd.


Terrible accident regardless of the details.   
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: jc79 on April 16, 2019, 07:29:40 PM
$10 says Melissa and crew will drag that rig down the trail.


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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: patman on April 16, 2019, 08:10:20 PM
Stuck throttle...on a drive-by-wire....sounds odd.


Terrible accident regardless of the details.   

Easier than saying he panicked and just kept it pinned down.

I think the woman is also partially to blame if she was in fact standing in front of the vehicle watching this happen
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Anvilsam on April 16, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Stuck throttle...on a drive-by-wire....sounds odd.


Terrible accident regardless of the details.   

Easier than saying he panicked and just kept it pinned down.

I think the woman is also partially to blame if she was in fact standing in front of the vehicle watching this happen
Mine got stuck in the floor mat right after the hemi swap. I nearly piled it up


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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: patman on April 16, 2019, 08:52:37 PM
Stuck throttle...on a drive-by-wire....sounds odd.


Terrible accident regardless of the details.   

Easier than saying he panicked and just kept it pinned down.

I think the woman is also partially to blame if she was in fact standing in front of the vehicle watching this happen
Mine got stuck in the floor mat right after the hemi swap. I nearly piled it up


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Makes sense

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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: TrevorG on April 17, 2019, 07:53:09 AM
Stuck throttle...on a drive-by-wire....sounds odd.


Terrible accident regardless of the details.   

Easier than saying he panicked and just kept it pinned down.

I think the woman is also partially to blame if she was in fact standing in front of the vehicle watching this happen

There are very few videos out there of big rides in the desert...and even in this part of the country...where people aren't doing that. I'm waiting on a video of one the SRRS media dudes to get squashed by a bouncer that took flight. I've never understood the fascination with standing in front of the guy who's doing everything he can to make his vehicle move forward. This is why I always find myself a nice tree to stand next to that I can put between myself and the dude with the big right foot. That being said, I hate it for both of them, they'll have to live with it forever.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Danny Kinder on April 17, 2019, 11:53:15 AM
Sad situation for both parties. And puts the sport under a big spot light. Not good for anyone..
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on April 19, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
Damn.

The battery looks like it didn't have a good mount...I'm surprised on a new rig.

I'm thinking that is the OEM airbox but hard to tell.

Yes , this type of modern era wheeler will learn these lessons the hard way - as has always been the case - but it'll all be online . The sport we love will change the more  accidents such as this happen but I think moreso since now the entire world can see it. I'm not so sure this is a good thing .
I am sure that it is awful that a person had to be handicapped by what is supposed to be a fun time.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Danny Kinder on April 19, 2019, 10:41:37 AM
(http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18164.0;attach=38134;image)

That's definitely the factory battery box
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: TravisMac on April 19, 2019, 10:42:35 AM
Damn.

The battery looks like it didn't have a good mount...I'm surprised on a new rig.

I'm thinking that is the OEM airbox but hard to tell.

Yes , this type of modern era wheeler will learn these lessons the hard way - as has always been the case - but it'll all be online . The sport we love will change the more  accidents such as this happen but I think moreso since now the entire world can see it. I'm not so sure this is a good thing .
I am sure that it is awful that a person had to be handicapped by what is supposed to be a fun time.

I'd say it works the other way. Would he have taken that line if he wasn't filming it for his "channel"? To me this is the most dangerous part. Idiocy is getting rewarded financially through youtube views
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on April 20, 2019, 08:44:17 AM
Damn.

The battery looks like it didn't have a good mount...I'm surprised on a new rig.

I'm thinking that is the OEM airbox but hard to tell.

Yes , this type of modern era wheeler will learn these lessons the hard way - as has always been the case - but it'll all be online . The sport we love will change the more  accidents such as this happen but I think moreso since now the entire world can see it. I'm not so sure this is a good thing .
I am sure that it is awful that a person had to be handicapped by what is supposed to be a fun time.

I'd say it works the other way. Would he have taken that line if he wasn't filming it for his "channel"? To me this is the most dangerous part. Idiocy is getting rewarded financially through youtube views



@clark123456 yeah, I was wrong on your correct battery box ID. I don't know no JL shtuff...

I agree & couldn't say or include what @TravisMac said perfect ; the element of " I'm on camera = better make for good content" is gonna be a factor even for the most experienced crawler. That + one moment of less than  100% awareness is recipe for more bad stories like this.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: BigPrince on May 19, 2019, 12:45:50 AM
Well now I know exactly where this is. What a dumb f-ck.

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Believe this is the same spot from slightly different angle.
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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: tcdawg on May 19, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
Wow. Really weird how that happened.  Doesn’t make sense
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Bjk77 on May 19, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
I haven’t doin this near as long as you guys. But by that video it looks like something got stuck. Gas was held waayy to long. Like Tony said jus doesn’t look right. Lady was definitely unfortunate.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Big Dave on May 19, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
I haven’t doin this near as long as you guys. But by that video it looks like something got stuck. Gas was held waayy to long. Like Tony said jus doesn’t look right. Lady was definitely unfortunate.
You got any updates you want to share with everyone?
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Bjk77 on May 19, 2019, 05:12:11 PM
Yea I should have started a build thread a while back but figured I was to far in to do it. But we’ve got Dana ultimates under our jku now with bolt-on coil overs in the rear. With stt pro 40’s. It’s in the shop getting an alignment now. Next step will be hydro assist. Hope to be through by July ride. Depending on work schedule.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Chris36l on May 19, 2019, 05:30:40 PM
Yea I should have started a build thread a while back but figured I was to far in to do it. But we’ve got Dana ultimates under our jku now with bolt-on coil overs in the rear. With stt pro 40’s. It’s in the shop getting an alignment now. Next step will be hydro assist. Hope to be through by July ride. Depending on work schedule.
Well that was one hell of an update. I’m assuming UD60’s.

Pics or it didn’t happen.


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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: flashover101 on May 19, 2019, 07:07:52 PM
Well now I know exactly where this is. What a dumb f-ck.

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Believe this is the same spot from slightly different angle.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/93f26umrvr71kfs/DSC_0976_1.JPG?dl=0)
What do you think happened Don? I think our conversation on this tragic event has steered away from the cause from which we may learn from.


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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: BigPrince on May 19, 2019, 07:15:38 PM
My guess, dude was over his head, hit the gas instead of the brake by accident and brain froze.  He should have been on the brake same time he accelerated. If he had kept going straight I think I remember there being a big cliff so probably saw that and whipped it left in a panic.

Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: flashover101 on May 19, 2019, 08:42:07 PM
So sad for the loss of this event. Cool heads will prevail and I do hope that many will learn from this mistake so that our sport will not be affected by a single mistake.


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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: tcdawg on May 20, 2019, 12:39:53 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: clark123456 on May 20, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk
so...she did not lose the leg?, but she needs a bunch of recovery activities and surgeries?  While not great, it's surely better than losing the leg...if I'm reading the article correctly.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: Will on May 20, 2019, 03:28:26 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk
so...she did not lose the leg?, but she needs a bunch of recovery activities and surgeries?  While not great, it's surely better than losing the leg...if I'm reading the article correctly.

That’s what I’m seeing too, she did not lose any limbs. Praise the Lord.

I can’t say anything about the accident as I was not there. But I have watched this guy’s YouTube videos ever since he started posting them mid 2018 because there was just too little JL content to watch much else. He seems like a nice guy and he’s got a young family but I could tell immediately that he was not an experienced wheeler. You take someone with little experience and put him in Moab on a set of 37s and there is always potential for an accident. His spotter was definitely telling him to hold up... so whether that was driver error or vehicle error, something went terribly wrong because a Jeep in 4-low shouldn’t be moving that fast.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: 8lugLJ on May 20, 2019, 04:08:06 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk

soooo they hired lawyers?? Gonna sue "americanjeeper" hmmmm.. i mean, something happened, and it sure wasnt her fault, but lawsuit? idk about that noise, it definitely wasnt intentional.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: patman on May 20, 2019, 04:10:29 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk

soooo they hired lawyers?? Gonna sue "americanjeeper" hmmmm.. i mean, something happened, and it sure wasnt her fault, but lawsuit? idk about that noise, it definitely wasnt intentional.

Prob due to substantial medical costs
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: 8lugLJ on May 20, 2019, 04:11:34 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk

soooo they hired lawyers?? Gonna sue "americanjeeper" hmmmm.. i mean, something happened, and it sure wasnt her fault, but lawsuit? idk about that noise, it definitely wasnt intentional.

Prob due to substantial medical costs

i get that, but the sue happy thing makes me itchy
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: patman on May 20, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk

soooo they hired lawyers?? Gonna sue "americanjeeper" hmmmm.. i mean, something happened, and it sure wasnt her fault, but lawsuit? idk about that noise, it definitely wasnt intentional.

Prob due to substantial medical costs

i get that, but the sue happy thing makes me itchy
When I tore my knee up wakeboarding in college, my insurance kept trying to get me to say it was my friend's family fault. Asking "if I was pressured or encouraged to engage in risky behavior" or some nonsense.

I'm betting whoever's insurance is going to pay for this, doesnt want to

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Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: clark123456 on May 20, 2019, 04:47:50 PM
here is an article on the lady that was hurt

http://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_088dd726-77ff-11e9-9298-0357e05fdaf6.html?fbclid=IwAR3_HvwjunN0zY3gV8By834tJNJXJT_onp4pdTuLRZr_rxzUYAb8-NwbFLk

soooo they hired lawyers?? Gonna sue "americanjeeper" hmmmm.. i mean, something happened, and it sure wasnt her fault, but lawsuit? idk about that noise, it definitely wasnt intentional.

Prob due to substantial medical costs

i get that, but the sue happy thing makes me itchy
When I tore my knee up wakeboarding in college, my insurance kept trying to get me to say it was my friend's family fault. Asking "if I was pressured or encouraged to engage in risky behavior" or some nonsense.

I'm betting whoever's insurance is going to pay for this, doesnt want to

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True, but what I recall reading was that the lady herself was getting a lawyer, so I presume that isn't the one the insurance company will use or provide.
Title: Re: Woman Loses Leg in Moab
Post by: BigPrince on May 20, 2019, 05:06:15 PM
A lot of insurance agencies won’t even try to talk to you if you don’t have a lawyer. They’ll just let you wallow.  I don’t blame her. That’s a life changing injury and she should do everything to make sure she’s made as whole as she can be now.