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OPEN RIDES & EVENTS => Past Rides : Pictures, Discussion, & Carnage => Topic started by: DOUG on October 23, 2011, 09:26:06 AM
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Got carnage?
Post with pride.
{toast}
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Whats this??
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Inner and outer on both sides. (break-over and swayback)
Cut trans line (creekbed, 15 min off the trailer)
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Kingpin 60 knuckle broke.
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2 rear Dana 60 shafts (same side), 1 rear u joint, 1 front t-case out-put shaft, leaky hydro steer line. {hihi}, oh yeah and some more body dings...
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Rear brake line and a lot more character.
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Rear bumper & hatch + a mysterious electrical gremlin (probably a heat soaked sensor).
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Bent up my driver side windshield pillar a little. Dang trees are magnets for them. >:(
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Bent up my "bling" rear chrome bumper coming down a rock ledge.
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Bent up my "bling" rear chrome bumper coming down a rock ledge.
uh-oh. is the wife pissed??? or does she know??
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Front passenger waggy D44 axle. anybody have chromolly set for sale?
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Bent up my "bling" rear chrome bumper coming down a rock ledge.
uh-oh. is the wife pissed??? or does she know??
No she don't yet........
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Randy, sell the winch, buy the shafts. {toast}
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Randy, sell the winch, buy the shafts. {toast}
I am in possession of the winch ;D
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i know what you can put it on. {toast}
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Bent up my driver side windshield pillar a little. Dang trees are magnets for them. >:(
Check these out:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Armor-Protection/Windshield-Frame-Guards-by-GenRight-Off-Road.aspx?t_c=79&t_s=468&t_pt=10409&t_pl=104130&t_pn=G%2fRWSG2000
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Broken License plate bracket and a small dent in the tub behind it
Pretty sure I bent my right rear axle
Character added to my front stubby
Plenty of rock rash on my wheels
Brown stain in the driver's seat ;D
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Broken License plate bracket and a small dent in the tub behind it
Pretty sure I bent my right rear axle
Character added to my front stubby
Plenty of rock rash on my wheels
Brown stain in the driver's seat ;D
{ehm} why you think?
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Bent up my driver side windshield pillar a little. Dang trees are magnets for them. >:(
Check these out:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Armor-Protection/Windshield-Frame-Guards-by-GenRight-Off-Road.aspx?t_c=79&t_s=468&t_pt=10409&t_pl=104130&t_pn=G%2fRWSG2000
or http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-WRANGLER-TJ-97-06-WINDSHIELD-FRAME-GUARD-LIGHT-BAR-/110583584200?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19bf4b95c8
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-WRANGLER-TJ-1997-2006-WINDSHIELD-FRAME-GUARDS-/120574382103?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1c12cb1017
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Waiting on some prototype pillars and led light bar that I am using the Jeep to build for my boss's new company. Thanks guys. {toast}
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Broken License plate bracket and a small dent in the tub behind it
Pretty sure I bent my right rear axle
Character added to my front stubby
Plenty of rock rash on my wheels
Brown stain in the driver's seat ;D
{ehm} why you think?
The right rear disc brake squeaks now under light braking which can be an indication that the flange is bent. Like in this video:
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It's not a huge deal if it is since I have that Ten Axle kit sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.
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I just noticed that the next ride is Nov 12th, I got to get on the ball and get my repaired ASAP.
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@ Larry, yes, yes you do. @ Seth, I have a bent axle as well. Take your tire off and sit the jeep on jack stands and let someone give it some gas and see if it wobbles. That is how I found mine. Sux, but you have chromos! {letseat}
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It's not a huge deal if it is since I have that Ten Axle kit sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.
You wheeled it well. Wish I had a picture of that wheelstand.
Go ahead and get the bearings pressed on when you have a chance.
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Broken License plate bracket and a small dent in the tub behind it
Pretty sure I bent my right rear axle
Character added to my front stubby
Plenty of rock rash on my wheels
Brown stain in the driver's seat ;D
{ehm} why you think?
The right rear disc brake squeaks now under light braking which can be an indication that the flange is bent. Like in this video:
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It's not a huge deal if it is since I have that Ten Axle kit sitting in my garage waiting to be installed.
Usually the squeaking is not while braking. My chirp has always gone away when I hit the brakes. You might just have worn out pads.
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This was a short wheeling trip for me. I got a little too happy with the skinny pedal and let my ego break the Rebelcon Friday night. Most of Saturday was spent driving to Huntsville for parts. Thanks for the use of the truck Jimmy and to anybody else that lent me a hand during the repair.
Here's my list:
Rubbing is racing:
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/SeminoleMike/Jeep%20Pictures/GATRFest%202011/2011-10-21164132.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/SeminoleMike/Jeep%20Pictures/GATRFest%202011/2011-10-24160912.jpg)
Shouldn't have been racing:
Grenaded passenger and driver inner and outer axle shafts
Separated ball joints on driver's side
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/SeminoleMike/Jeep%20Pictures/GATRFest%202011/2011-10-24161239.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/SeminoleMike/Jeep%20Pictures/GATRFest%202011/2011-10-24161304.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/SeminoleMike/Jeep%20Pictures/GATRFest%202011/2011-10-24161357.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/SeminoleMike/Jeep%20Pictures/GATRFest%202011/2011-10-22113708.jpg)
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I tried to follow Mike's lead... but all I could muster was a single demolished U-joint and inner/outer axle shaft on the front passenger side.
A big thanks, by the way, to Matt and Adam for removing the damaged goods so I could drive home. {toast}
Jared
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Wish I could have stayed longer, but we had a blast while we were there.
My only carnage is some electrical issue that is causing my dash lights to flash whenever I use the brakes. Not a terrible problem since it will notify the occupant of the vehicle that he/she is using the brakes. {ehm}
Friday night was a blast {toast}
Mike and Gina, thanks for the hospitality on Saturday morning. The coffee and breakfast brought us back from the dead.
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Not sure of my carnage, but it was slight, I think the XJ only saw like 2 or 3 trails, rubbed one tree a little, and something (uni-body I'm sure) popped when I was winching Richard in the creek bed at Bears Den. The fan is getting into the radiator a lot more than it was at the start of the trip, I also can't open the front doors with it strapped to the trailer. Guess it really is time for the 2.0 build. It will take a week or so of cleaning the mud off of it to really see if I can see what metal turned loose.
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Nothing really for me, guess I need to learn how to wheel... Other than bending the stock transfer skid some more and continuing the destruction of the stock rear bumper from Harlan I came out pretty clean. Maybe 1 of these days I'll spring for the belly-up.
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Front output shaft
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee286/redmanyj/Parts/frontoutput.jpg)
winch line trying to get out of death valley
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee286/redmanyj/Parts/winchline.jpg)
still had a good weekend. thanks for everyones help.
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Death Valley I like that.
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If anybody found a black down blanket on top of the ridge please let me know. When we camped up there friday night my friend john must have left it up there. That or it flew from the bed of his truck on the way home. If you know anything about it please let me know. Thanks
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Death Valley I like that.
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I thought that got named F U C, or was that just the name of the last obstical. :D :D
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Will, got your message and no, did not see it. Sorry man.
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Hey mark, did your wife get cranky about the generous helping of mud soup?
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Hey mark, did your wife get cranky about the generous helping of mud soup?
Not really she just shook her head and said have fun cleaning that mess up.
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Found some stock takeoff axle shafts for $150 shipped. Looking for another set to use as trail spares.
Cromos were $700 and RCV's are $1100.
Think I'd rather put that money towards a D60.
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{toast}
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Hell yea
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{toast}
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I didn't have any carnage on the trail but my steering box is worn out and I have some serious frame issues that I have to deal with. :fu(
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Dang Billy.
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:o scary.
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I didn't have any carnage on the trail but my steering box is worn out and I have some serious frame issues that I have to deal with. :fu(
I am taking off my brand new durango box!! It has the bigger interior gears and the case, but it is a direct bolt on.
Let me know - it is up for sale
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Found some stock takeoff axle shafts for $150 shipped. Looking for another set to use as trail spares.
Cromos were $700 and RCV's are $1100.
Think I'd rather put that money towards a D60.
I have Alloy USA Chromoly shaft kit for the front of your JK = $553.30
They are in high demand, I would have to check my warehouse for stock
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My old tank held pretty damn well for how mch I beat on it this weekend.
I did manage to drag and bounce it off and over every rock out there though.
the belly skid has a little more ground clearance now
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/jharps/100_1411.jpg)
And I somehow managed to bend a 33 inch long 2x2x.25 square lower
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/jharps/100_1412.jpg)
One of the tires airs itself down pretty qickly too...
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/jharps/100_1410.jpg)
And the front drive shaft hit a rock retty good on that one hill at the top of slip and slide, bending it real good and causing it to pull ot of the splines and "self smooth" on the rocks. When I pulled it out I found one of the caps was all cracked up and it discentegrated on the ground
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/jharps/100_1413.jpg)
And somehow the last little bit of my rear fenders is totally caved in? damn ninja rocks...
awoesome time!!!!!!!!!
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I didn't have any carnage on the trail but my steering box is worn out and I have some serious frame issues that I have to deal with. :fu(
Damn man, I know you were telling me about it in class, but I didn't imagine it'd be quite that bad. Maybe some fishplates like yo did in the rear?
Alex, I'm surprised there isn't more damage than that from Hollowhead. That line is completely insane.
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yeah, that was definately a stupid line. haha.
between the rest of the weekend and that obstacle the front driveshaft wasnt too happy.
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/jharps/100_1419.jpg)
and whatever ninja rock jumped out at me
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/jharps/100_1421.jpg)
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I think I hate you for the shit you have laying around in your parts pile. {nln}
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Ive read the arms bend even though they are beef so Ryan theres your proof. You gonna sleeve the replacement?
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Found some stock takeoff axle shafts for $150 shipped. Looking for another set to use as trail spares.
Cromos were $700 and RCV's are $1100.
Think I'd rather put that money towards a D60.
I have Alloy USA Chromoly shaft kit for the front of your JK = $553.30
They are in high demand, I would have to check my warehouse for stock
Thanks for the offer, but I refuse to run any Rugged Ridge parts on my Jeep. I had really bad results running the Alloy USA shafts when I had the D44 in the rear. They were really unprofessional about the whole deal and lost my business forever. I have more confidence in the stock shafts anyway.
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Go with the Ten Factory if they make them for the JK. I read somewhere the owner of Ten Factory use to own Alloy before he sold it. I run the Ten's in my front D30.
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I agree with you Mike. Just save up for a 60. What are your plans for bolt pattern? Is 5 on 5 is possible with 60 outers? I know you can get 60 hubs for 5 on 5.5 or 6 on 5.5.
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Thanks for the offer, but I refuse to run any Rugged Ridge parts on my Jeep. I had really bad results running the Alloy USA shafts when I had the D44 in the rear. They were really unprofessional about the whole deal and lost my business forever. I have more confidence in the stock shafts anyway.
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I have a bent flange on my driver rear axle. Have emailed and called alloy to get a replacement and nobody has called or emailed back. They definitely have some shoty customer service. >:( Axle, was already bent before the ride in case you are wondering. Hoping to get a human on the phone soon ::)
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Yeah, Their customer service blows! I have their front chromo shafts, they are the only ones that I haven't been able to break! I try not to order from them unless we have to!
Oh well let me know if I can help in any way {toast}
Ben, remind me Monday & we will call them for you
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Sounds good. I hate bad CS.
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Gonna go with 5x5.5 outers. My currie 60 in the rear is drilled for 5x5 and 5x5.5.
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I have a set of warn premium hubs brand new in the original box at the house that I was going to put on the Excursion if they will work. 2002 F250 Dana 50/60 style.
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time for some drive flanges and turning radius like a bus.
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dont put those GAY a$$ warns "Ppreimue" lock outs on, just bite the bullet and go drive flanges, {toast}
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Those were mile marker. I guess when they get a mile on them they break and you pull them off and use as a trail marker.
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Bingo!!! {nln}
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Those were mile marker. I guess when they get a mile on them they break and you pull them off and use as a trail marker.
{hihi}
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I have a single D44 Warn premium hub that I could sell if needed.
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I have a single D44 Warn premium hub that I could sell if needed.
WTF , DUDE, GET WITH THE PROGRAM.... {;-(}
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I have a single D44 Warn premium hub that I could sell if needed.
He runs a 60, but he also blew both of them and they are warrantied. Looks like flanges are in your future Richard.
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Well if you are breaking hubs and install flanges, something more expensive might break instead. {btt}
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Yeah its just a game called move the weak link. Damn getting expensive though.
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contact RPM - great deals on stub upgrages with chromo drive flanges... dont stick with the 30 spline, you'll regret it seriously...
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contact RPM - great deals on stub upgrages with chromo drive flanges... dont stick with the 30 spline, you'll regret it seriously...
Damn can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Ryan on something. LOL
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hey dick, im saying dont spent money on buying 30 spline drive flanges, douche' - if those junked up MM lock outs are warrentied then used it up - but dont waste time and money on small A$$ 30 spline junk, and Micheal i need to give you a call, when are you back in town?
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Uh oh Michael, watch out! I think Ryan is looking for a booty call... He's been hanging out with mark too much Lol
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I run 35 spline outers + drive flanges + V8 + cheater tires and beat the piss out of it every trip. Don't waste your money on 30 spline and hubs. {toast}
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Don't forget I have a spare set you can use if you need {toast}
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Summit brings the WIN. Good deal man.
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sorry to hijack, but whats the difference between lock outs and drive flanges?
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lock out (locking hubs) allow your front axle to be open as in the stub shatfs will be free spinning and provide a better turning of the front wheels as they did spin indepenantly while also allowing you to manually lock them as in 4WD so that they trun simulatiously. - and drive flanges (pucks) are full time locked and are not able to be unlocked- so you remain in 4WD.
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Not exactly. If the TC is in 2wd you'll be in 2wd, but the axle shafts and drive shaft will be turning with flanges. With hubs the wheels are divorced from the shafts while unlocked. When locked, hubs work the same as flanges.
Both engage the splines on the outers. Since the flange is a solid piece of steel, it's not going to break.
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Kirt, no one is started on TC's - only diff between locking hubs and flanges, {nln} {hihi} - but yes, if you want to go that route- that is also true, but you still turn like $h!t if flanges are on and you drop to 2WD- since the wheels will not turn independantly. {btt}
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Kirt, no one is started on TC's - only diff between locking hubs and flanges, {nln} {hihi} - but yes, if you want to go that route- that is also true, but you still turn like $h!t if flanges are on and you drop to 2WD and are welded or have a spool- since the wheels will not turn independantly. {btt}
Fixed.
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The question was the difference between flanges and hubs, so I was just clarifying that having flanges doesn't mean you're locked in 4wd. Obviously with a welded/spooled front, you'd want hubs if you plan to drive it on-road.
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You had the right idea, ryan, but the clarification was neccesary because mentioning 4 wheel drive was probably confusing to folks looking to understand the function of a lockout hub, which is to disconnect the hub and outer shaft from the inner shafts.
Anybody fixed their junk yet? I put a new boot on my driveshaft and painted it, but that's about it. Got parts coming today though :)
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Got my axles, but need to tack weld the caps before I install them.
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Got my axles, but need to tack weld the caps before I install them.
Do you have a picture that shows the location for the tack welds? I need to do this.
I take it the U joints need to be removed for this?
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still waiting for parts to come in....................
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Got my axles, but need to tack weld the caps before I install them.
Do you have a picture that shows the location for the tack welds? I need to do this.
I take it the U joints need to be removed for this?
Yeah Tony, they can do it on the lift while it is all together. Allsouth did it to my 1st JK Rubi, and will do it to my new used one too.... as soon as I get some parts in.
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Meg is going to be out of town for a week so I will drive her Liberty while I take the jeep apart. The texture paint I used just flakes off to easy. I plan to go with the flat black enamel that I have been touching up with. It is holding strong. Been talking to AllSouth about prices for a DS and SYE.
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Got my axles, but need to tack weld the caps before I install them.
Do you have a picture that shows the location for the tack welds? I need to do this.
I take it the U joints need to be removed for this?
Yeah Tony, they can do it on the lift while it is all together. Allsouth did it to my 1st JK Rubi, and will do it to my new used one too.... as soon as I get some parts in.
Yup. Like Doug and Richard said. No need to take anything apart. It will just make the welding a little easier in my case since they are already out. Depending on the weld height though, I may end up having to remove the knuckles to install them.
Looks like this, except most people tack them in 2-3 places.
(http://www.jkowners.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25173&stc=1&d=1286522293)
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I gotta tack mine as well. Had it done on the old 30. 1 more little "safety net" you can add cheaply. {toast}
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I gotta tack mine as well. Had it done on the old 30. 1 more little "safety net" you can add cheaply. {toast}
If you have full circle clips, I wouldn't worry.
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Got my axles, but need to tack weld the caps before I install them.
If you could wait until next week you could slide down to the shop and Randy will tig them, we are hammered this week though.
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You had the right idea, ryan, but the clarification was neccesary because mentioning 4 wheel drive was probably confusing to folks looking to understand the function of a lockout hub, which is to disconnect the hub and outer shaft from the inner shafts.
Anybody fixed their junk yet? I put a new boot on my driveshaft and painted it, but that's about it. Got parts coming today though :)
SEEING that this is a 4WD forum, i was sticking to the 4WD side of the asspect -- but yeah - can see where is would be confusing for some newbs to follow..
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You had the right idea, ryan, but the clarification was neccesary because mentioning 4 wheel drive was probably confusing to folks looking to understand the function of a lockout hub, which is to disconnect the hub and outer shaft from the inner shafts.
Anybody fixed their junk yet? I put a new boot on my driveshaft and painted it, but that's about it. Got parts coming today though :)
So the rear drive shaft boot worked?
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We scratched one of our wheels.
{peek}
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We scratched one of our wheels.
{peek}
That's rough man {hihi} how did the under armor do?
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We scratched one of our wheels.
{peek}
That's rough man {hihi} how did the under armor do?
It did awesome. Without any lift, we had to slide over a ton of stuff. I don't think we even chipped the powdercoat, and no dents as far as I can see.
Those are some heavy ass plates.
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When is the lift coming?!
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When is the lift coming?!
Good question. I had figured on doing the PRG Advanced 3" in the spring around tax time (plus, our van will be paid off). Now I'm contemplating a TS (Titan 4WD front suspension) swap and going more like 5", plus a replacement leaf pack in the rear with extended shocks. I could take the PRG anywhere to have it installed, but I'm not sure about the piecemeal stuff - plus, there's finding the actual Titan components. :hlp
Afraid Cindy might do one of these... {;-(}
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Is a Titan a solid front axle? How easy is the swap over? Could be a cool project to follow.
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If Titan is SAS
DO IT!!!!
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I've never known any Nissan to have a front Solid Axle, even back in the 80's when all the cool rigs had a solid axle, Nissan's were IFS. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Nope guys, Titans are IFS. It'll be kind of like when Seth did the diff swap in his H3.
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Nope guys, Titans are IFS. It'll be kind of like when Seth did the diff swap in his H3.
Logan is right. The Titan has IFS, but much beefier than the Xterra with options more more lift and travel. Also increases the track by 5", so rear spacers are required to even it out. There are options for SAS, but not Nissan OEM and a lot more than I want to tackle with a new truck (lots of fab work required).
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IFS is tough for rock crawling. I regret putting all that money into the front locker in that H3.
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I agree having wheeled with Seth in his H3. While Ifs can be made to work anywhere, it is prohibitively expensive to make work well, especially here in the southeast, where traction isn't as readily available. I wish I was on a computer to link the climb that gave Seth so much trouble at Choccolocco.
Here it is.
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Well, I can get a full 3" PRG upgrade kit for ~$1800. I'm trying to get an estimate on the Titan swap, but I'm guessing a bit higher - could be wrong as many parts come of used/wrecked trucks. I don't know about a front SAS, but I'd have to guess its quite a bit more than the full PRG kit, and doesn't do anything for the rear.
We aren't, and never will be, rock crawlers. The same truck we offroad with is used for camping and taking the kids to daycare. {hardlaugh} I don't foresee a dedicated offroader for us, so it needs to do a bit of everything.
However, for you guys here is some hardware porn (http://www.thenewx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=47522). This guy is doing full axle swaps front and rear, plus other pieces. Around $15k in parts.
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af297/f_dziadek/2011-10-28_12-17-04_423.jpg)
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Man what some people will pay for axles astounds me. {popcorn}
But even without being a hardcore rockcrawler in the video I posted, it was just a simple hill, that my rig, a rubi on 35's, an open/open LJ on 33's and a ZJ on 31's had all made. Ideally one of us should have just tugged him over the root, but none of us expected parts to give out that easily.
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Man what some people will pay for axles astounds me. {popcorn}
But even without being a hardcore rockcrawler in the video I posted, it was just a simple hill, that my rig, a rubi on 35's, an open/open LJ on 33's and a ZJ on 31's had all made. Ideally one of us should have just tugged him over the root, but none of us expected parts to give out that easily.
That surprised me too. I bet we could climb that with ease. But that is part of the reason for considering the Titan swap - tougher parts.
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That surprised me too. I bet we could climb that with ease
Sounds like a wheel off! {popcorn}
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That surprised me too. I bet we could climb that with ease
Sounds like a wheel off! {popcorn}
It's the second or third trail on the left going toward the back of the park from the bottom of the Boatramp trail. Have fun, it's steeper than it looks in the video. I need to go back for a revenge run on Teepee, it took out my radiator last time I was there.
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That surprised me too. I bet we could climb that with ease
Sounds like a wheel off! {popcorn}
It's the second or third trail on the left going toward the back of the park from the bottom of the Boatramp trail. Have fun, it's steeper than it looks in the video. I need to go back for a revenge run on Teepee, it took out my radiator last time I was there.
I'm still pissed the one time I had to get winched was because of a rut. Not some rocks or steep spots or anything, just a stupid rut.