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MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: urdaddyjeep on January 19, 2009, 11:41:54 AM
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Since this is my first breakage and I didnt want to hijack any other threads so here it is...
just got back from the dealership... so far they say they are doing the warranty work... if anything changes they will call me...
what they did say is that I shouldnt be running 35's on a dana30.. saying that this will happen again.. i dont think that they believe me when i told them that I bought it the way it is... but i called the dealership in hawaii and they said that they will fax all the mods that they did to Thompson dealership if they want it.. so that might help... now if for some reason they say they wont cover it under warranty then i guess i might as well try and find a dana44 that fits a JK.. i am looking now just in case...also will need to find a place to do the swap and do the regearing cause I will have to redo the 44 in the rear as well... and ya I will have to add lockers too i Guess... so post up any help that you guys might have..
Mike ;D
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I got to say that is a load of crap from them. You cant fun 35" tires on a D30 front? Folks with older Jeeps have been running 35's forever on the 30, and get on any major forum and look at the number of members with 35's on the JK and very few issues reported. I ran 35's on my front 30 for 26k miles and I wheeled it a lot in that time (and it came new from the dealer with 2.5" lift and 35's).
Anyways, good to see so far they are trying to fix it warranty wise and not fighting with you. Whats the dealer name?
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Get a real jeep! Trade it in for a Rubicon. {popcorn} {toast}
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Get a real jeep! Trade it in for a Rubicon. {popcorn} {toast}
haha got to say when I had my X on 35's I thought it was the shit when a little gas/brake combo with the LSD in the rear and I could go places folks said you couldnt without lockers... But then I wanted 4 door and life with lockers is so much better now. It took a lot more gas, "bumps" and faith to get over things with no lockers... now I just need momentum to slide the belly over things
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Get a real jeep! Trade it in for a Rubicon. {popcorn} {toast}
Why? They get stuck going up a little incline ()()
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woah... you snapped your axle urdaddy?
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its the dealeship in Thompson GA about 20 miles west of Augusta off of I20... I saw a nice Rubi at the dealership here in Augusta for sale but being used i would have to pass cause they couldnt give me what I would need to pay mine off... but I have thought about getting a Rubi... but if things go bad then I will have a 44 front with 4.10's front and rear plus lockers when done... and that is if things go bad...
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no i busted a few teeth of the gear...
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Screw 4.10's! go with 4.88's or 5.13's ;D
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well the 4.10's would be free... so i cant go wrong there.... also .. looked into 5.13's just the gears only for front and rear are going to cost over $500.. just for the gears and not the install kits... but would i need those as well?? I have no idea about gears and such so I need all the help I can get..
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You'll need gears and a master install kit. Didn't Ben get his gears and install kits for around $500? Yours would be a bit more with the d44 rear but not by too much. And for Pete's sake, through a freakin Aussie in the front while its apart {nln}
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http://northridge4x4.com/proddetail.php?prod=SA-JK-GEARS-INSTALL
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http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-wrangler-jk/superior/ring-pinion-gear.htm
how about these... now remember i am only going to do this if the dealership doesnt back the warranty..
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^ That combo kit I posted is about $50 cheaper than everything seperately. What gears do you have now? 3.73s?
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Mike, here is where I got my gears. http://www.completeoffroad.com/ front and rear ring gears, master rebuild kits all under $400. Yukon and Timken stuff. Best deal around. But for real, throw an aussie in while it is apart!
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hey that site has this only for a JK
http://completeoffroad.com/i-124226-2007-jk-gear-package-d30-d44.html
and on the box it says TJ on it...
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That jeep dealership has a website www.jeepcheap.com in Thomson
Hey man if I was there you would have drove it home ;) pull the shafts and either take the ring gear off of the carrier or take the stubs off of the inners and put the stubs back in the unit bearing and the inners in the back floorboard of your jeep. the end of the axle tube would be open, just shove a rag up there (if it was mine I would just leave it open and if water got in it I would clean it out when I get home)
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just throwing it out there but I also have a pair of 2wd unit bearings that you can run/borrow if something happens and the warranty doesnt cover. you could drive it in 2wd until it's fixed
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Steven, his bolt pattern is different on the JK, so the 2wd unit bearings won't work. We talked about pulling the ring gear or the inner shafts.
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yea i guess it would have done more damage if i would have drove home on it... taking out the axle shafts isnt that the only thing holding the tires on?
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You have to take out the inner shaft and leave the outer shaft and unit bearing in to drive.
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Steven, his bolt pattern is different on the JK, so the 2wd unit bearings won't work. We talked about pulling the ring gear or the inner shafts.
Just so I'll be educated on it, what bolt pattern is different, is the wheel bolt pattern different or the unit bearing mounting pattern? or both
the 2wd slugs may work in his unit bearing possibly? I know he doesnt need it but I'm wondering "just in case"
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Not sure on u-bearing bolt pattern, but the wheel bolt pattern is for sure.
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Brought it to the proper thread ;D
That is true, it is under warranty and that is a totally different situation
He could have gotten back here and not told them he drove it though ;D
Man I am surprised they are covering it anyways! On the JK forum websites people get turned down all day on warranties due to lifts, tires, being OFF ROAD (yes a jeep gets turned down for being off road....)
Is Ryan a member on the JK forums? He goes by the name o2dac2000 and has a black rubicon unlimited. His jeep took a big hop backwards off of a ledge at least 4' up and landed directly on the rear tires with the front wheels still in the air and it bent both of his rear axle shafts. Warranty did not cover it.. but that may be considered abuse by a lot of people anyways
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how does one take a big hop backwards off a 4' dropoff....
as far as the warranty and dealerships goes try and build a repor with them before hand... so far it has helped in my case.... who knows they might call me tomarrow and tell me i owe them $$$$$$ lets just hope not.... {cheers2}
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Wheels spinning and the jeep was hopping, it took a big hop and when gravity took effect there was nothing underneath the tires. I forgot to mention he's hard on it lol
If you have been to Gulches it was on the left side of the ledge at the heartbreaker entrance
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they have to honor the warrenty THEY MUST PROVE your mods broke it if they give you any issues call the ftc and drop in a formal complaint, that will get your rig fixed ;)
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Heres the jeep and the ledge, where he bent the shafts was on the left side where the picture doesnt show. its bigger the further eft you get
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/fdrose/gulches/DSCF1758Medium.jpg)
my little XJ did make it up with a little throttle ;D
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Pretty sure I've seen that Rubi at River Rock before.
So what all went down, Mike? You guys pulled the cover, saw the busted teeth on the ring gear and... how did you get it to Augusta? I'm seeing that you didn't drive it.
As far as the whole warranty thing; no the Jeep didn't get your lift and tires from the factory, the dealership slapped it on. But you signed for that Jeep and it's warranty and the dealership knew what was on it. I would raise all hell if they try to say they will not cover because of the tire size. The dealership in LaGrange puts a lot of after market parts on their Jeeps and they cover everything that's on it when they sell it.
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And maybe I'm mistaken, but isn't the carrier break on the dana 30 4.88? :-\ ... pretty sure it is..
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yea i guess it would have done more damage if i would have drove home on it... taking out the axle shafts isnt that the only thing holding the tires on?
Yep! You would have been dragging your a$$ home ;D
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And maybe I'm mistaken, but isn't the carrier break on the dana 30 4.88? :-\ ... pretty sure it is..
i have 3.73's and i had to rent a trailer from u-haul to get it to the dealership... i dont think i am goin to have a problem
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well talked to the dealership on the phone today to find out how things are going....Here it is in a nut shell
They have to replace the gears (we knew that) and a u-joint....big $$$$$ but not my dime... it is all being covered by the warranty... and it should be ready by this weekend... ;D {toast} {cheers2} {woohoo} so once again i guess i luck out and found a dealership that works with jeepers... but i am still talking to the wife to see about changing out the gears for 5.something and maybe going to a 44 in the front... she needs to hurry up and start getting paid... ;D
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Awesome news that they're covering everything!
Why are you after a dana 44?
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cause it is cheaper then a dana 60.. i want to end up having a 60 front and 70 rear
and i am suprised that noone has said anything about my new sig...
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Homo!!
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what??? your just mad cause i got it and you dont... i will see if i can find one for you... lets see.. you want one with a rainbow or a pink triangle?
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run the 30 as long as they keep fixing it :D
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i plan on it i think... if it keeps breaking i just might have to upgrade..
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what about the locker for no extra charge?
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i plan on it i think... if it keeps breaking i just might have to upgrade..
This is my advice, $250 for an Aussie up front so you will have a lot more traction and not have to bump stuff as hard and use so much skinny pedal because using a lot of gas is what breaks gears.
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i plan on it i think... if it keeps breaking i just might have to upgrade..
This is my advice, $250 for an Aussie up front so you will have a lot more traction and not have to bump stuff as hard and use so much skinny pedal because using a lot of gas is what breaks gears.
x2.I was going to go this route when I had my 2 door but really wanted to go up to a 4 door.
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what??? your just mad cause i got it and you dont... i will see if i can find one for you... lets see.. you want one with a rainbow or a pink triangle?
I don't know MikieD, a monkey in your trunk sounds a little 8==D to me, you sausage jockey, I knew the truth would eventually come out.
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holy cow... 900$ for a ox locker???? please send your tax refund to me...
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Glad they are fixing it Mike and very surprised. KUDOS to the dealership for taking care of you. {toast}
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Glad it all worked out for you!
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holy cow... 900$ for a ox locker???? please send your tax refund to me...
does that include the actuator cable? ;D
Yeah man, this hobby isn't cheap. Like, I said, I would throw an Aussie up front, and if you would like to go bigger, take it easy for a little while and really do your research for what you want your rig to do, and also for the parts/work you want to put into it. Great deals on used stuff are also flying around all the time. Get you a profile on Southern Jeeps and watch their for sale section. ;)
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well i picked up my jeep today and they fixed everything even my e-break... they told me again that running 35's on a dana 30 with 3.73 gears i will have breakage again and there is a really good chance that it will not be covered again by the warranty.. so wtf am i to do... changing out the gears will void the warranty.. changin out the whole axle will void it... oh well i guess...
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man I just dont buy it. I mean anything can break but the D30 is not so weak that it is a 100% for sure break with 35's on it.
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well i picked up my jeep today and they fixed everything even my e-break... they told me again that running 35's on a dana 30 with 3.73 gears i will have breakage again and there is a really good chance that it will not be covered again by the warranty.. so wtf am i to do... changing out the gears will void the warranty.. changin out the whole axle will void it... oh well i guess...
Don't worry about it Dude, if it breaks, and that's a big if, carry it to another dealer, they will see that they have already been warrantied once, but you can act like your not real sure if the repair was done proper the first time and that's why your useing another dealership. Or if it breaks again regear and screw the warranty on the dif.s, it won't void the rest of the warranty.
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well i hope things work out ok cause we just might have to trade in the Aspen and get me I mean the wife her dream truck (tow pig) they have a really nice Dodge 2500 for 29k... i think with trade in on the aspen and all the cash that dodge is throwing out we can get the payments for less then we have on the aspen... and it has a 6.1 Cummings {letseat}.... so we will see in the morning...not getting my hopes up by anymeans...
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mike, if you get that truck... {nln}
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If it works Mike dump the Aspen and get a real vehicle. Oh yea the comment in a differant post about buying a Jeep Built wasn't a bust man. In case you forgot, I haven't done anything to the XJ except fix a few weak points. I didn't build it. I did build my YJ thow, but then again it's now just a mall crawler.
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oh and i made a mistake 6.7L Cummings... my bad... and Mark I didnt take it that way i was messing with you about that... you know me i always messin around...
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oh and i made a mistake 6.7L Cummings... my bad... and Mark I didnt take it that way i was messing with you about that... you know me i always messin around...
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Cool man, I no that I don't take much that you say seriuos, but I thought that you thought I was bustin' on ya. Man if you can get you a Cummins right, I would get it, I bought mine new in 2001 and would not trade it for nothing.( Only because it's been paied for a while) But if I did it would be with another Cummins. ( I would rather be "Cummin than Stroke'n")I'm not a fan of the Duramax(it's got issues), The new Powersucks don't get fuel milage. If it would work out for ya I think you would be happy, even with the price of fuel. Of course now diesel seems to be dropping while gas goes up, go figure, I don't understand, but I'm sure Obama will fix it.
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he hsno idea on how to fix anything.....close Gitmo but have no idea where or what your going to do with the bad guys...well i hope things work out...
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Of course now diesel seems to be dropping while gas goes up, go figure, I don't understand
I don't understand it either, but I'm not complaining! There is a place by my house that has diesel for 10-15 cents cheaper than everyone else, but they get robbed or people get carjacked there a lot, so I have to watch what time I go, lol.
I don't know much about the new 6.7 BluTec Cummins. Have there been any problems with them?
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Of course now diesel seems to be dropping while gas goes up, go figure, I don't understand
I don't understand it either, but I'm not complaining! There is a place by my house that has diesel for 10-15 cents cheaper than everyone else, but they get robbed or people get carjacked there a lot, so I have to watch what time I go, lol.
I don't know much about the new 6.7 BluTec Cummins. Have there been any problems with them?
Pack Heat Jimmy.
No from what I've read it seems that they just keep building on perfection.
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well the one i thought was 29k it was like 36k.. the one that they have for 29k doesnt have everything i want..so no tow pig for me
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Hahahahaah!!! :D Trying to keep up with the Jones? You work for a living. Thats why we can't have stuff like that. But hey, you still work for a living. Love what you got. You built it! Homo!!!
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hey Homo remember i didnt build it.... i bought it jackass.... plus trying to figure out how to get my rig to MOAB.. jackass
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Hahahahaah!!! :D Trying to keep up with the Jones? You work for a living. Thats why we can't have stuff like that. But hey, you still work for a living. Love what you got. You built it! Homo!!!
Dang Dude I work for a living also. I'm even still considered "Blue Collar".
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You don't count on this one Mark ;). I know you work also.
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The only one that doesnt work is Glen... surfing google for Gucci stuff is not work G....