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MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: tcdawg on February 19, 2015, 09:35:43 PM
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Pretty sure the jeep engineers really did mean Just Kidding when they named our wrangler the Jk. Most of us know, and if you don't you will, that the plastic bushings that hold the TC cable to the shifter and the transfer case itself are pure crap. They will become brittle and then break, usually in a very inopportune spot.
Yes, the plastic bushing is a $ .59 part and it works just like a cheap ass part should, crappy. If you don't carry one with you in your tool bag you are begging for it.
Advanced Adapters makes a complete cable replacement but it's $199 and a pain to install. There is really nothing wrong w the stock cable, just the POS bushing.
I have had a bushing break on me twice and with this cold weather it has me thinking I need to deal w this issue sooner rather than later...when I am trying to get somewhere and my junk is stuck in neutral or some crap like that.
So. Who has made a more permanent fix for these bushings?
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This shows the BS little plastic pieces.
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Notice at the end of the video he mentions that some replace the plastic piece w a brass bushing but he doesn't want to do that because you may "grind the gears". I don't but that for a second. I want a permanent fix for this, I know how to shift my transfer case.
I'm leaning toward this fix
http://www.jeepasylum.com/content.php?70-JK-transfer-case-bushing-fix (http://www.jeepasylum.com/content.php?70-JK-transfer-case-bushing-fix)
And a preemptive STFU for an TJ/LJ/CJ guys.
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What about making replacement of the part with the $0.59 part a yearly (or whatever) activity, as part of regular maintenance?
Of course, you could just get a TJ and have a permanent fix :)
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What about a brass bushing or Teflon?
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I wouldn't credit that video much, he sounds like a super newb.
A brass or bronze bushing should work in that application, I don't see much of a potential for enough wear to warrant any worry.
What about eliminating the cable and using a direct linkage set up with some Rod ends and all thread?
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If any of that cable end is threaded, you can likely but a heim joint that can be threaded on to it. Heim joints are what AA uses on their cable assemblies for the lever connections.
And then hold it in place with a washer and pressure clip. I would probably drill through the connector pin and use a hitch pin or cotter pin so there was much less chance of it coming off.
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I wouldn't credit that video much, he sounds like a super newb.
A brass or bronze bushing should work in that application, I don't see much of a potential for enough wear to warrant any worry.
What about eliminating the cable and using a direct linkage set up with some Rod ends and all thread?
The video was just to show the plastic bushing, it had a real good shot of it.
Brass bushing will work.
Have not seen a direct link, the issue is most likely the what it would have to route through the tub.
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If any of that cable end is threaded, you can likely but a heim joint that can be threaded on to it. Heim joints are what AA uses on their cable assemblies for the lever connections.
And then hold it in place with a washer and pressure clip. I would probably drill through the connector pin and use a hitch pin or cotter pin so there was much less chance of it coming off.
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it is not threaded if I remember correctly.
I am leaning toward a brass bushing, drill through and use a hitch pin to keep it on forever.
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Here is my plan, as soon as it gets back above 50 freaking degrees outside:
use this for the bushing:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd273/tchaap_2007/0508011651a.jpg)
Use this for the locking pin:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd273/tchaap_2007/HitchPinClips_SS.png)
Like this:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd273/tchaap_2007/0501011054as.jpg)
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Is NOT threaded.
The bushing just holds the cable end in by filling the gap between the lever and the cable end.
The bushing It fits over the cable end and the assembly snaps into the hole. When the bushing becomes brittle and crumbles, the assembly falls apart.
I am not understanding how this works, where the pin graps and what holds the other end in.
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What about making replacement of the part with the $0.59 part a yearly (or whatever) activity, as part of regular maintenance?
I want to make this a permanent fix. You could replace the plastic bushing every year as routine maintenance but I think you could just as easily replace it one time with something that won't break. Plus, you never no when the things will break.
Of course, you could just get a TJ and have a permanent fix :)
TJ's have their own shifter issues as I remember
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Is the flanged end pushed in from the back, and the cotter pin is on the smooth end and just holding by compression? No way I would trust that.
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I just changed mine. The plastic/rubber feeling bushing snaps in the cable fitting then you push it on the pin. Easy fix if your center console will come all the way out.
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I am not understanding how this works, where the pin graps and what holds the other end in.
I believe the brass bushing presses on like the plastic one would, then you press on the TC linkage, the put the hitch pin on. I think there is a lip that holds the hitch pin from pushing off. Another option would be to drill a small hole and insert the hitch pin through the hold or safety wire the hitch pin to the bushing.
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Safety wire FTW
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I just changed mine. The plastic/rubber feeling bushing snaps in the cable fitting then you push it on the pin. Easy fix if your center console will come all the way out.
easy fix until it breaks again. Then a total pain to deal with...remember where yours broke.
I know Doug remembers where his broke :)
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I just changed mine. The plastic/rubber feeling bushing snaps in the cable fitting then you push it on the pin. Easy fix if your center console will come all the way out.
easy fix until it breaks again. Then a total pain to deal with...remember where yours broke.
I know Doug remembers where his broke :)
Mine broke at the absolutely very best place in the world one could fail.
Leaving the trail rolling onto pavement at the last trail on the last day of wheeling in MOAB.
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I've kept a spare one in my Jeep since I had my '09 Rubi. I had one break during the first ride I ever took with GATR back in '09. I fixed it on the trail with a tie wrap until I got a new one.
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subscribed
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Subscribed as well! Let us know if you find the parts local to
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And a preemptive STFU for an TJ/LJ/CJ guys.
Feel the love.
After dealing with the stock stuff, AW4 swap, 241OR swap and a extreme belly up on the white TJ I finally went to a cable shifter setup. I did the cable swap ASAP on the LJ.
I don't see why your idea won't work.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/24/vuna5y8e.jpg)
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And a preemptive STFU for an TJ/LJ/CJ guys.
Feel the love.
After dealing with the stock stuff, AW4 swap, 241OR swap and a extreme belly up on the white TJ I finally went to a cable shifter setup. I did the cable swap ASAP on the LJ.
I don't see why your idea won't work.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/24/vuna5y8e.jpg)
It's jealousy
Novak?
Very clean.
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Yes, Novak.
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As I understand it, the new bushings MOPAR sells have been redesigned using a better, non brittle material. I never had a failure on mine and when I just had the trans replaced they replaced the bushings at that time too.
JeepForum has a writeup; http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/another-mans-shift-linkage-repair-1211510/ (http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/another-mans-shift-linkage-repair-1211510/)
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As I understand it, the new bushings MOPAR sells have been redesigned using a better, non brittle material. I never had a failure on mine and when I just had the trans replaced they replaced the bushings at that time too.
JeepForum has a writeup; http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/another-mans-shift-linkage-repair-1211510/ (http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/another-mans-shift-linkage-repair-1211510/)
The new bushing I bought was very rubbery feeling.
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As I understand it, the new bushings MOPAR sells have been redesigned using a better, non brittle material. I never had a failure on mine and when I just had the trans replaced they replaced the bushings at that time too.
JeepForum has a writeup; http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/another-mans-shift-linkage-repair-1211510/ (http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/another-mans-shift-linkage-repair-1211510/)
The new bushing I bought was very rubbery feeling.
That should make it more pliable and less brittle.