Post by: Danny Kinder on December 03, 2019, 10:40:38 PM
North Georgia Mtn Cruise
Meeting time : 8:45 am
Meeting place : Habersham Winery 7025 S Main St, Helen, GA 30545
We want to roll out around 9am no later than 9:15 am
Meeting time : 8:45 am
Meeting place : Habersham Winery 7025 S Main St, Helen, GA 30545
We want to roll out around 9am no later than 9:15 am
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 04, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
on December 14th? We could do Trey Mtn or Charlie's Creek.
Never been thru whats it called Cash's valley or Cash's Rd.
You know we did this as our January ride for a couple of years.
Might be good to get some new members out or even I could
take my mall crawler out. Lets here what y'all think. Could be
a nice ride for a lot of folks.
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 09:48:10 AM
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Photo's I saw on FB shows Talulah up over the door threshold, so if we get more rain expect a deep crossing on Persimmon Rd. Pull those plugs.
Post by: Danny Kinder on December 04, 2019, 10:44:26 AM
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Post by: TravisMac on December 04, 2019, 11:07:10 AM
damn at the turnout we used to get on thoseMost of the jeeps now just want to build a jeep to take pictures to put on insta. no sense in actually getting it dirty
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 11:14:05 AM
The following roads are now temporarily closed to motorized public access:
White County
• FSR 44 (Chattahoochee River Road)
• FSR 79 (Chimney Mountain Road)
• FSR 79 (Tray Mountain Road)
Rabun County
• FSR 164 (Dick's Creed Road, above Kennesaw Lane)
• FSR 163 (Popcorn Creek Road)
Stephens County
• FSR 92 (Red Root Road)
• FSR 87 (Guard Camp Road)
Closures will last until roads can dry out to prevent further damage. The agency will continue to monitor road conditions and weather forecasts, and expects to be able to reopen roads in about a week.
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 11:20:17 AM
Post by: Will on December 04, 2019, 11:34:56 AM
When we did it this summer, we ran it from East (above Clayton) to west, and it spits you out close to Hiawassee. We drove up to the top of Bell Mountain for some killer views and cool geology and then ate a late lunch in Hiawassee. Would not be a rock crawling trip but definitely a fun hour or two in the woods and then some time to hang out and grab some grub/brews.
Post by: Will on December 04, 2019, 11:36:31 AM
Charlies Creek Trail
Charlies Creek Rd, Clayton, GA 30525
https://goo.gl/maps/b5azTa9RbHKizN5q6
Post by: Will on December 04, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
Dropped pin
Near Towns County, GA
https://goo.gl/maps/5FLrUomkJ8CDd2d39
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 04, 2019, 11:38:54 AM
damn at the turnout we used to get on thoseMost of the jeeps now just want to build a jeep to take pictures to put on insta. no sense in actually getting it dirty
I think your totally wrong....
I bet if we had advertised this for a month you would be surprised.
We used to have a couple rides like this during the year. We had a
ride called Helen and Hot dogs one year. I used to reserve a picnic
shelter at Unicoi State Park...we would ride the FSR then have a
picnic and let the kids play.
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 12:09:42 PM
It looks they are calling for rain through this weekend and most of next week. Worst case, we could still do a Jeep caravan across the Lookout Mountain Scenic Hwy and come back down the Unicol Turnpike and skip the FSR's. This was Doug's main loop.
Post by: 8lugLJ on December 04, 2019, 12:15:11 PM
Status as of today:
The following roads are now temporarily closed to motorized public access:
White County
• FSR 44 (Chattahoochee River Road)
• FSR 79 (Chimney Mountain Road)
• FSR 79 (Tray Mountain Road)
Rabun County
• FSR 164 (Dick's Creed Road, above Kennesaw Lane)
• FSR 163 (Popcorn Creek Road)
Stephens County
• FSR 92 (Red Root Road)
• FSR 87 (Guard Camp Road)
Closures will last until roads can dry out to prevent further damage. The agency will continue to monitor road conditions and weather forecasts, and expects to be able to reopen roads in about a week.
the whole reason they are doing temporary closures is bc of FB and similar groups damaging trails, mudding in the ditches, climbing embankments, and leaving trash. If this ride goes down, PLEASE be mindful of these things and keep the group in line. @Cannonballkev and I have to live up here and these are our camping and fishing spots they have closed thanks to the internet and some "clubs".
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 04, 2019, 12:22:24 PM
I can guarantee one damn thing if and when we go again > anyone
seen doing anything like that will be kicked out of the club!
Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 04, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
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Post by: Cannonballkev on December 04, 2019, 01:58:31 PM
Charlie’s creek is open ( was there last week )
There is a new “”park” somewhere around Blairsville/ Murphy area. Better than just FS roads., haven’t been , but talked with the guy. Maybe hit Beasly knob?
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 04, 2019, 02:00:24 PM
Didn't they smooth some of that out a few years back or something?
Post by: Cannonballkev on December 04, 2019, 02:09:25 PM
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 02:50:40 PM
Tray mountain road is open , chimney mountain rd is closed ( fun side)
Charlie’s creek is open ( was there last week )
There is a new “”park” somewhere around Blairsville/ Murphy area. Better than just FS roads., haven’t been , but talked with the guy. Maybe hit Beasly knob?
Kevin - where you getting this information on Tray Mountain? Per the forest service website it is closed. I'm not doubting you as I don't know if they update their site daily, weekly or whenever lol. Just curious.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/conf/news-events/?cid=FSEPRD573027
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 03:09:04 PM
https://www.alltrails.com/explore/recording/n-ga-trails-ga-trail-riders--2
Looks like they did Tray Mountain first and then went North.
Post by: 8lugLJ on December 04, 2019, 03:38:39 PM
Here's the map from the past ride that Doug led:
https://www.alltrails.com/explore/recording/n-ga-trails-ga-trail-riders--2
Looks like they did Tray Mountain first and then went North.
@Cannonballkev will have the most current, he lives right there. there are multiple ways in and out of Tray Mtn, to my knowledge they never close the main route, only the one from the Helen side that all the Instajeepers take pics on.
Call the forest service for the absolute last word on things, especially Beasly.
The new park is BS IMO. I have talked to the guy and its not actually open to the public, he will only take you on guided rides and is charging a fee. He says he owns the property, but he does not.
Post by: Cannonballkev on December 04, 2019, 08:18:45 PM
Tray mountain road is open , chimney mountain rd is closed ( fun side)
Charlie’s creek is open ( was there last week )
There is a new “”park” somewhere around Blairsville/ Murphy area. Better than just FS roads., haven’t been , but talked with the guy. Maybe hit Beasly knob?
Kevin - where you getting this information on Tray Mountain? Per the forest service website it is closed. I'm not doubting you as I don't know if they update their site daily, weekly or whenever lol. Just curious.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/conf/news-events/?cid=FSEPRD573027
http://www.fs.usda.gov/goto/road_status
Zoom in on the red. Those are closed .
Chimney mtn rd
Dicks creek
Wildcat
The first link has a date of April 2018
The second link Is current
Post by: Trailabite on December 04, 2019, 09:53:33 PM
Got it. Thanks.Tray mountain road is open , chimney mountain rd is closed ( fun side)
Charlie’s creek is open ( was there last week )
There is a new “”park” somewhere around Blairsville/ Murphy area. Better than just FS roads., haven’t been , but talked with the guy. Maybe hit Beasly knob?
Kevin - where you getting this information on Tray Mountain? Per the forest service website it is closed. I'm not doubting you as I don't know if they update their site daily, weekly or whenever lol. Just curious.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/conf/news-events/?cid=FSEPRD573027
http://www.fs.usda.gov/goto/road_status
Zoom in on the red. Those are closed .
Chimney mtn rd
Dicks creek
Wildcat
The first link has a date of April 2018
The second link Is current
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Post by: FlyinDuck998 on December 06, 2019, 09:29:08 AM
It’s a very nice road that’s perfect for 4x4’s. It’s not very long, but it’s got a creek crossing. Small rock obstacle and plenty of off camber climbs.
Word in the trees was that it was going to be closed and gated due to people tearing up the wetland area down by the creek.
If this ride is near a possibility the wife and and I would like to join. We haven’t been active members due to life events. Had hoped to get to meet everyone at GATR Claus, but it seems to have been canceled.
There is also another pretty trail near the same area. Can’t exactly explain how to get there. It’s a simple trail very pretty though.
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Post by: BigMike on December 06, 2019, 09:37:47 AM
Post by: Trailabite on December 06, 2019, 09:45:11 AM
FS 163 looks a long ride through the forest as well?
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Post by: Big Dave on December 06, 2019, 10:44:22 AM
Done it once.
Post by: Cannonballkev on December 06, 2019, 01:23:24 PM
Take 163 ( popcorn) to 163 ( FS Sign is gone) 163 comes out on popcorn rd, go left to plum orchard, to persimmon , to Charlie’s creek , go right on ruby mine td to a culdesack and creek, loop back to Charlie’s creek to 76.
Popcorn and Charlie’s creek will take 2-3 hours.
I could do this trail in my sleep .
Post by: Grass Janitor on December 06, 2019, 03:40:40 PM
This might be too far away, but is anyone familiar with Dodd Road/Bend n Hickory Road near Toccoa Falls?
https://goo.gl/maps/CBhrvfNkr5VFeCSs5
(https://goo.gl/maps/CBhrvfNkr5VFeCSs5) I've seen a couple of YouTube videos, it's not a FSR but does look to be some sort of unmaintained public road. Not very long though. It also shows up as Glore Road. It's to the west of the marked spot on the map.
Post by: Cannonballkev on December 06, 2019, 04:02:26 PM
I'm most likely in for this one, going to try to recruit a couple of buddies that like a little easier wheeling. I've done Tray and Dick's Creek before but would love an opportunity to learn more of the decent trails up there.
This might be too far away, but is anyone familiar with Dodd Road/Bend n Hickory Road near Toccoa Falls?
https://goo.gl/maps/CBhrvfNkr5VFeCSs5
(https://goo.gl/maps/CBhrvfNkr5VFeCSs5) I've seen a couple of YouTube videos, it's not a FSR but does look to be some sort of unmaintained public road. Not very long though. It also shows up as Glore Road. It's to the west of the marked spot on the map.
Been closed ( blocked off) for 4 years or so, was illegal before that.
Post by: kvom on December 06, 2019, 04:41:17 PM
Post by: jd30005 on December 06, 2019, 04:53:43 PM
A ride I've led a few times starts at Nimblewill Church near Dahlonega. Two options from there: Nimblewill Gap and Frosty Mtn., or FS77 up to Winding Stair Gap/fish hatchery/Hawk Mtn. Good routes for noobies.I remember doing these routes with you in the past and they were enjoyable.
Post by: Cannonballkev on December 06, 2019, 05:35:26 PM
At the top, and a big concrete pad that has a big number painted on it, not sure what that is
Post by: Trailabite on December 06, 2019, 07:22:54 PM
Flatlands is closed last I heard.Perfect, you gonna lead?
Take 163 ( popcorn) to 163 ( FS Sign is gone) 163 comes out on popcorn rd, go left to plum orchard, to persimmon , to Charlie’s creek , go right on ruby mine td to a culdesack and creek, loop back to Charlie’s creek to 76.
Popcorn and Charlie’s creek will take 2-3 hours.
I could do this trail in my sleep .
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Post by: Carlos LOBO on December 06, 2019, 07:34:07 PM
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Post by: Trailabite on December 06, 2019, 07:50:14 PM
What's is the distance from Smyrna? If not too far I'm in..1 hr 30 mn
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Post by: Cannonballkev on December 07, 2019, 05:13:41 PM
Flatlands is closed last I heard.Perfect, you gonna lead?
Take 163 ( popcorn) to 163 ( FS Sign is gone) 163 comes out on popcorn rd, go left to plum orchard, to persimmon , to Charlie’s creek , go right on ruby mine td to a culdesack and creek, loop back to Charlie’s creek to 76.
Popcorn and Charlie’s creek will take 2-3 hours.
I could do this trail in my sleep .
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Well, my work Christmas party is that day, so I’m not sure yet.
Post by: msnajkowski on December 08, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
Post by: Trailabite on December 08, 2019, 10:22:44 AM
I’d be interested. I have a stock JKU Rubicon so I don’t want to hold you guys back from doing anything more intense. Will I be good.This ride is perfect for the stockers.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 08, 2019, 11:00:11 AM
2016 JKu Sport
Post by: Carlos LOBO on December 08, 2019, 11:09:58 AM
I’d be interested. I have a stock JKU Rubicon so I don’t want to hold you guys back from doing anything more intense. Will I be good.A JKU has already lockers in both differentials and the disconnecting sway bar, so you are better prepared that a JKU non-Rubicon. But I agree you should avoid the more difficult obstacles.
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Post by: Carlos LOBO on December 08, 2019, 11:11:06 AM
Thanks Chuck. I'm 99% confirmed, now need clearance from my Agenda (wife).What's is the distance from Smyrna? If not too far I'm in..1 hr 30 mn
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Post by: Trailabite on December 08, 2019, 11:26:21 AM
Bring her, this should be a very scenic ride.Thanks Chuck. I'm 99% confirmed, now need clearance from my Agenda (wife).What's is the distance from Smyrna? If not too far I'm in..1 hr 30 mn
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 08, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
I’d be interested. I have a stock JKU Rubicon so I don’t want to hold you guys back from doing anything more intense. Will I be good.
There will be no need to turn
on any lockers for this ride.
Come on out...bring the kids,
bring the grandkids, bring
the grandparents. Lol
Post by: moos on December 08, 2019, 11:32:56 AM
Start time?
Meeting location?
Recommended best place/person to get a crash course in GMRS radios? Looking to "buy once, cry once" rather than just purchase a cheapie to make this ride. Scanned the cb subforum, and it seems like some members have settled in on a couple of favorites through trial and error. Shamelessly looking to benefit from that knowledge.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 08, 2019, 05:11:39 PM
I don’t have a GMRS radio. I do have a CB. Will this be an issue.
No that is not a problem
Post by: Chris36l on December 08, 2019, 06:25:18 PM
If I can make it, I’ll have both radios(CB and GMRS) with me.I don’t have a GMRS radio. I do have a CB. Will this be an issue.
No that is not a problem
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 09, 2019, 10:49:43 AM
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Post by: Blue J on December 10, 2019, 08:31:39 AM
It's supposed to rain most of the week. Forecast has changed a couple of times as to whether it'll rain on Saturday or not. As of 5 minutes ago, it is.
I saw it was posted on Facebook so I suspect it will be a rain or shine log jam. Those Forest Service roads are great even in the rain. I can remember many times driving my 2wd Explorer and my Dad's Station Wagon, through muddy roads up there, just stay on the road. Trails are for hikers and bears.
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Post by: Trailabite on December 10, 2019, 11:28:05 AM
Would this happen to be an open ride? Meaning I could potentially bring along a buddy in his Toyota?
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 10, 2019, 11:38:33 AM
Would this happen to be an open ride? Meaning I could potentially bring along a buddy in his Toyota?
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you signing up then?
Post by: FlyinDuck998 on December 10, 2019, 11:40:07 AM
Would this happen to be an open ride? Meaning I could potentially bring along a buddy in his Toyota?
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you signing up then?
I’m working on it. Trying to get things in order.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 10, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 11, 2019, 07:32:32 PM
Is it gonna be a little wet and muddy?
Y'all about to go this Saturday?
Post by: FlyinDuck998 on December 11, 2019, 07:50:17 PM
Ok everyone what do y'all think?
Is it gonna be a little wet and muddy?
Y'all about to go this Saturday?
I’ll know for sure Friday at noon.
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Post by: moos on December 11, 2019, 07:59:56 PM
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Post by: moos on December 13, 2019, 11:31:29 AM
Any realistic chance that the water levels will be high enough to enter the cab on a stock JLU Rubicon?
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Post by: FlyinDuck998 on December 13, 2019, 11:35:54 AM
Another newbie question:
Any realistic chance that the water levels will be high enough to enter the cab on a stock JLU Rubicon?
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If you’re referring strictly to Charlie’s Creek. The amount of rainfall could increase the water flow but it’s doubtful that it will be high enough to enter the cab. As long as the doors are shut and the air-conditioning is on to pressurize the interior it should keep out any water that may come up to the door. But it’s very rare if you’re moving forward for the water to come inside the vehicle create a bit of a week in front of it. Unless it really really deep.
So I’ve been told.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 13, 2019, 11:45:20 AM
Who has been numerous times or knows it better and may want to lead?
Post by: FlyinDuck998 on December 13, 2019, 11:47:47 AM
Ok so it's been probably 5 or 6 years since I've been through that trail. I know how to get there off Persimmon Rd. I don't remember where it comes out or how to go in from the other end.
Who has been numerous times or knows it better and may want to lead?
Give me a few to get back to the house. I’ll take a look at the forestry service map.
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Post by: Blue J on December 13, 2019, 01:36:46 PM
Ok so it's been probably 5 or 6 years since I've been through that trail. I know how to get there off Persimmon Rd. I don't remember where it comes out or how to go in from the other end.
Who has been numerous times or knows it better and may want to lead?
From Persimmon Rd the crossing at Talullah River is a diagonal up river to the right. Go Slow and don't stop in the middle, make sure your in 4WD before your in the river. I'd lead but I will be installing a Thermostat in the Jeep tomorrow. It's an easy drive.
Post by: Grass Janitor on December 13, 2019, 02:56:01 PM
Weather station in the area. I've checked a few, all over an inch of rain for the week so far. I guess like DK said it'll make it interesting.
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 13, 2019, 03:39:25 PM
Ok so it's been probably 5 or 6 years since I've been through that trail. I know how to get there off Persimmon Rd. I don't remember where it comes out or how to go in from the other end.
Who has been numerous times or knows it better and may want to lead?
From Persimmon Rd the crossing at Talullah River is a diagonal up river to the right. Go Slow and don't stop in the middle, make sure your in 4WD before your in the river. I'd lead but I will be installing a Thermostat in the Jeep tomorrow. It's an easy drive.
Yes I know exactly where the river crossing is. I used to trout fish that whole section up there. I just haven't went thru that trail in at least 6 years. You know back when you could go down that section on the left that had the hill climb everyone used to do. That lead to a lot of the signage about stay on the main trail.
Post by: flashover101 on December 13, 2019, 05:29:50 PM
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Post by: Cannonballkev on December 13, 2019, 08:20:53 PM
If you are just doing Charlie’s, 163 is a nice add on.
There is on rutted our spot going downhill, just tell the newbies to straddle the ruts.
Post by: msnajkowski on December 13, 2019, 09:58:26 PM
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 13, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Moccasin Creek State Park
then onto Persimmon Rd
Post by: Cannonballkev on December 13, 2019, 10:09:36 PM
The way I go is by Unicoi then go by
Moccasin Creek State Park
then onto Persimmon Rd
Yes, that’s 197. 2.5 miles from wheee it intersects 76, if you want to do popcorn trail
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Post by: FlyinDuck998 on December 13, 2019, 10:12:13 PM
Should anyone want some, bring your favorite instant flavor and a little water.
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