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Title: Fish worms
Post by: Trailabite on February 14, 2020, 02:29:50 PM
If you didn't see my FB post, we found a couple worms in our Salmon last night. Sherry couldn't handle it and barely made it to the bathroom to make a deposit into the porcelain thunder jug lol. It will be a while before we do Salmon again. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200214/a9f17d786d57bb845539852f90a185e0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Big Dave on February 14, 2020, 03:29:27 PM
Nice.
Where's it from?
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Trailabite on February 14, 2020, 03:43:24 PM
Nice.
Where's it from?

Orca Bay - Alaskan Wild Caught. They freeze all of their fish at -31* and then store it at -4* for several days to kill things like these worms. They say finding worms in the Salmon is common or at least not unheard of......I'd rather not do it again though!
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Big Dave on February 14, 2020, 03:49:39 PM
I agree
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: clark123456 on February 14, 2020, 07:43:51 PM
I used to go deep sea fishing on a nice charter boat every year...then one year while cleaning and putting away some fish (Amberjack, I think) I noticed white nodules in the meat, but I ignored it.  Someone else on the trip sent a group text letting us know some fish had worms...after I went to the trouble to clean and vacuum seal the meat, butt before I consumed any.

That was my last trip. 

Salmon was my fish of choice...now, thanks to you, I'll be avoiding it too.

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Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Will on February 15, 2020, 08:22:58 AM
I spent a week in Yakutat, Alaska catching coho (silver) salmon and flew 100 pounds of it back home. We gave away most of it between friends and family and ate on it for a year. I have never seen any worms. I know other parasites like sea lice will die and fall off of the fish once they hit the rivers and fresh water.   

We catch them in the rivers as they are headed up stream to spawn but commercial fishing is all done in the bays and salt water. So there’s one of the differences between private and commercial “wild caught.”

That’s nasty Chuck. I’m gonna tell myself that the freshwater is the reason we have never seen any worms.... until I see otherwise I guess. Was it down in the meat or on top? Could be the way they are processed and cleaned and that that guy just did a crappy job but I don’t know.

I know other salt water fish almost always have worms, like Amberjack. But they are too good to stop eating. Just get em fried before you look at them 🤣

Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on February 15, 2020, 10:00:05 AM
this is one of the reasons I don't eat fish a lot. I will only ever eat it at the coast ( never inland w/ very rare catfish fry , & if I've seen the fish) & no longer eat anything other than bunny-slope sushi ( California roll or shrimp tempura roll) if I'm at an ocean.

this gave me very much anxiety ,Chuck.
Did that just crawl out of a raw salmon steak on the plate you were taking it to the grill on? I didn't login to Facebook this week so hadn't seen.

grilling would kill but you'd still be eating cooked worm , too.

I know I'm letting my pre-historic ancestors down - & Bear Grills - but this set my OCD paranoia off the charts ; I investigated my HoneyComb this morning for worms.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Trailabite on February 15, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
this is one of the reasons I don't eat fish a lot. I will only ever eat it at the coast ( never inland w/ very rare catfish fry , & if I've seen the fish) & no longer eat anything other than bunny-slope sushi ( California roll or shrimp tempura roll) if I'm at an ocean.

this gave me very much anxiety ,Chuck.
Did that just crawl out of a raw salmon steak on the plate you were taking it to the grill on? I didn't login to Facebook this week so hadn't seen.

grilling would kill but you'd still be eating cooked worm , too.

I know I'm letting my pre-historic ancestors down - & Bear Grills - but this set my OCD paranoia off the charts ; I investigated my HoneyComb this morning for worms.
Lol. It was cooked 2 to 3 minutes on each side which, for me, is a little over cooked. Sherry found it in her piece about half way through......

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Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on February 16, 2020, 07:13:46 AM
*shiver*

 [skull]


I'm glad you noticed it.

Can use as fishing bait = full circle?
 
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 17, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
Animals have worms and parasites. Pigs and beef have even more, Google it up. Worms aren't a problem when cooked properly, just more protein. This is why it is important to get the best quality Sushi. I avoid the Dollar Sushi places. The farmed and China caught and or processed fish is the biggest concern.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: clark123456 on February 17, 2020, 09:02:14 AM
Animals have worms and parasites. Pigs and beef have even more, Google it up. Worms aren't a problem when cooked properly, just more protein. This is why it is important to get the best quality Sushi. I avoid the Dollar Sushi places. The farmed and China caught and or processed fish is the biggest concern.
FAKE NEWS!!!  Beef has never had anything bad with it, and cows are the cleanest animals.  This mis-information needs to be removed from the site.

Kell started telling me about some problems with beef...and I just had to leave the room.

The vegan propoganda machine is in full force these days.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 17, 2020, 09:40:37 AM
Animals have worms and parasites. Pigs and beef have even more, Google it up. Worms aren't a problem when cooked properly, just more protein. This is why it is important to get the best quality Sushi. I avoid the Dollar Sushi places. The farmed and China caught and or processed fish is the biggest concern.
FAKE NEWS!!!  Beef has never had anything bad with it, and cows are the cleanest animals.  This mis-information needs to be removed from the site.

Kell started telling me about some problems with beef...and I just had to leave the room.

The vegan propoganda machine is in full force these days.

Taeniasis in humans is a parasitic infection caused by the tapeworm species Taenia saginata (beef tapeworm), Taenia solium (pork tapeworm), and Taenia asiatica (Asian tapeworm). Humans can become infected with these tapeworms by eating raw or undercooked beef (T. saginata) or pork (T. solium and T.

Taeniasis - General Information  - CDC https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/taeniasis/gen_info/faqs.html



I know you like your pork and beef cooked raw and that you are not good at the google.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 17, 2020, 11:39:14 AM
Animals have worms and parasites. Pigs and beef have even more, Google it up. Worms aren't a problem when cooked properly, just more protein. This is why it is important to get the best quality Sushi. I avoid the Dollar Sushi places. The farmed and China caught and or processed fish is the biggest concern.
FAKE NEWS!!!  Beef has never had anything bad with it, and cows are the cleanest animals.  This mis-information needs to be removed from the site.

Kell started telling me about some problems with beef...and I just had to leave the room.

The vegan propoganda machine is in full force these days.

A little Googling for ya Clark-

Smithfield Farms, the largest pork producing farm in the USA was sold recently to China with the unanimous support of its stockholders!! The hogs will still be raised here, but slaughtered and packaged for sale there before being sent back here. This includes labels of Morrell, Eckrich, Krakus, Cudahy, Premium Hams, Cook's, Gwaltney, The same with many chickens. They can now be shipped there, but when they come back all that needs to be labeled is that they WERE RAISED IN THE USA. Not that they were processed in China!!! Our great FDA at work again. The chickens will be all processed and most sold to fast food restaurants for sandwiches, along with schools and supermarkets. The China slaughter and processing are not nearly equal to the requirements here.

*BAD FOOD:::
We recently learned that Starkist Tuna is now owned by Korea , and is in big conflict with the U. S. concerning quality, safety, and records, which Korea refuses to produce.
Read several articles on Google about this, and even one that was defending the eating of tilapia said to avoid the fish that came from China Also,I had just returned home from buying Albertson's 4-day special of 4 bags of frozen tilapia for the price of one.? Sure enough, on the top of the bags, it read "farm raised", and on the bottom in small print it said, " China "read all the way down...

Recently a Food inspector on TV... said he had lived overseas and he had seen the filthy conditions their foods are raised and processed in. It is enough to make you throw up. Some foreign workers have to wear masks as they work in these places, because the food is so rotten and filthy, it makes them want to throw up. Many of their fish on Fish Farms are fed raw sewage daily. He said he has seen so much filth throughout their food growing and processing that he would "never" eat any of it. They raise this filth, put some food coloring and some flavorings on it, then they ship it to the USA & Canada for YOU to consume and feed to YOUR families. They have no Food & Safety Inspectors. They ship it to you to buy and poison your families and friends .

Imported food we eat and the junk we buy: Green Giant frozen vegetables are from China, and so are most of Europe 's Best.
Arctic Gardens are Okay. So is Birdseye.
Never buy the grocery store garlic unless it is clearly marked from USA or Canada, the other stuff is grown in people poop (even worse than chicken droppings). China is the largest producer of garlic in the world; U. S. is next.
Buy only local honey *, much honey is shipped in huge containers from China and re-packed here.

Cold-FX is grown and packed in China and is full of fecal bacteria. Doesn't work anyway, big scam.

If the country of origin is not clearly marked beware. If produce, ask an employee.

Watch out for packages which state "prepared for", "packed by" or "imported by". We don't understand the lack of mandatory labeling, especially the produce.

The country of origin should be clearly shown on the item in the store.

Go to the local farmers' markets in season and keep a wary eye open the rest of the year.

Please read this very carefully, and read to the very bottom. It's important for all of us.

How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it produced in the U. S. or Canada?

FOR EXAMPLE THE "OUR FAMILY" BRAND OF MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON THE CAN 'FROM CHINA '. SO, FOR A FEW MORE CENTS, BUY THE LIBERTY BRAND.

GOLD BRAND OR THE DOLE IS FROM CALIFORNIA.

Beware, Costco sells canned peaches and pears in a plastic jar that come from China.

ALL "HIGH LINER" AND MOST OTHER FROZEN FISH PRODUCTS COME FROM CHINA OR INDONESIA . THE PACKAGE MAY SAY "PACIFIC SALMON" ON THE FRONT, BUT LOOK FOR THE SMALL PRINT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS COME FROM FISH FARMS IN THE ORIENT WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS ON WHAT IS FED TO THESE FISH.

Recently The Montreal Gazette had an article by the Canadian Government on how Chinese feed the fish: They suspend chicken wire crates over the fish ponds, and the fish feed on chicken droppings.

If you search the internet about what the Chinese feed their fish, you'll be alarmed; e. g, growth hormones, expired anti-biotic from humans.? Never buy any type of fish or shellfish that comes from these countries: Vietnam, China, Philippines.

Check this out personally. Steinfeld's Pickles are made in India - just as bad! Another example is in canned mushrooms. No-Name brand came from Indonesia .

Also, check those little fruit cups. They used to be made in Canada in the Niagara region until about 2 years ago. They are now packaged in China. Most sold in Aldi stores.

While the Chinese export inferior and even toxic products, dangerous toys, and goods to be sold in North American markets, the media wrings its hands! Yet, 70% of North Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended.

Well, duh! Why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges?

SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, CANADA AND THE U. S.

Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says 'Made in China ' or 'PRC' (and that now includes Hong Kong ), simply choose another product, or none at all. You will be amazed at how dependent you are on Chinese products, and you will be equally amazed at what you can do without.

THINK ABOUT THIS:

If 200 million North Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that's a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor...fast! The downside? Some Canadian/American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory.

Just one month of trading losses will hit the Chinese for 8% of their North American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness are worth it.

START NOW and don't stop and tell your friends.

Start reading labels more closely and buy something else even if it cost a few cents more.*
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Danny Kinder on February 17, 2020, 01:50:33 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 17, 2020, 02:28:46 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?


I think they were eating raw snakes or maybe alive snakes or something like that.
Yea those weird Chinese virus's come from eating/handling obscure animals, often eating them raw or while the animal is still alive. Because they have magical powers or some healing properties.

Don't look at this while eating. Warning this is a bit unsettling.
https://china-underground.com/2014/08/16/7-animals-eaten-alive-in-china-graphic-content/


Whats really screwed up is they will be processing most meat produced and sold in the US.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: clark123456 on February 17, 2020, 02:46:27 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?

HA! 

I heard it was the Chinese government performing testing of bio-tech weapons.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 17, 2020, 03:40:37 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?

HA! 

I heard it was the Chinese government performing testing of bio-tech weapons.

Trump tell you that while you were hob nobbing with him down at the Track?
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Big Dave on February 17, 2020, 04:31:28 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?

HA! 

I heard it was the Chinese government performing testing of bio-tech weapons.
My first thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Trailabite on February 17, 2020, 07:23:54 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?
Pangolins

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Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on February 18, 2020, 06:52:25 AM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?
Pangolins

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this is what I heard.
they eat those nasty things AND ground the scales into penile powder or anteater-blow or wtf ever they do with it.

nasty cultural cuisine for selfish reasons that shoulda been stopped culturally 1000s of years ago.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 18, 2020, 01:49:28 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?
Pangolins

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this is what I heard.
they eat those nasty things AND ground the scales into penile powder or anteater-blow or wtf ever they do with it.

nasty cultural cuisine for selfish reasons that shoulda been stopped culturally 1000s of years ago.
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and dogs.
They eat dogs too.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on February 18, 2020, 06:56:50 PM
Isn't this the same way Coronavirus was started - by eating rare or uncooked animals? Could this be darwinism at it's finest?? Everyone sees a problem, but continues to consume?
Pangolins

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this is what I heard.
they eat those nasty things AND ground the scales into penile powder or anteater-blow or wtf ever they do with it.

nasty cultural cuisine for selfish reasons that shoulda been stopped culturally 1000s of years ago.
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and dogs.
They eat dogs too.


(https://i.imgur.com/H981AN7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Mortalis5509 on February 18, 2020, 07:49:19 PM
How safe / wholesome do you think your food is from the US?

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Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: j3ff3ry_j33p on February 19, 2020, 07:01:01 AM
How safe / wholesome do you think your food is from the US?

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unless you see it pulled from the ground or slaughtered , it's always questionable. Look at the frequency of lettuce-poo contaminations ...
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Blue J on February 19, 2020, 08:34:32 AM
How safe / wholesome do you think your food is from the US?

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unless you see it pulled from the ground or slaughtered , it's always questionable. Look at the frequency of lettuce-poo contaminations ...

Wasn't so long ago that horse meat was regularly found in ground beef.  The black stuff in mushrooms is the growing medium which is a compost made up of straw, horse poop and a bunch of other stuff. Excellent for mushrooms, less so for conventional vegetable gardening. As for the poop, it's well past poop stage, composted for a long time, heated through bacterial activity and pasteurized for use in growing mushrooms.

I don't eat a lot of beef. I prefer venison, I'm sure its full of Wild Worms and parasites. I also enjoy Organic Free Range Chicken, eggs, and Turkey. I always tell my wife that the broccoli and lettuce quiver before they are picked, so you know they have feelings. Vegetables are alive before you cook 'em. I am sure they are as scared as crabs, since both are cooked while alive.

I see all the recalls on China produced dog food. They do not have the same standards that we have for food. Contaminants in one of my Blood pressure meds were traced back to a Chinese supplied ingredients.  Apparently products made with petro chemicals aren't good in Dog food or medicine.  They take practicing Medicine to a new level. Just like I tell my Doc "practicing medicine means Practicing on me." He always laughs, and then tells me I am right. Because what works for one person doesn't work for everyone.

Hell they don't have the same standards we in the US have for Steel either which is why we don't use Chinese steel or stainless. I've seen large voids in Chinese steel filled in with filler and pickled. (Looks ok, unless your trying to weld it or expecting it to meet loading)

I've been to slaughter houses and worked fast food restaurants, and several other restaurants while working my
 way through college.
I've seen what goes on in the US. It makes me more conscious of what I eat and or order while dinning. And to be sure not to piss off the butcher.
Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Trailabite on February 19, 2020, 08:48:34 AM
How safe / wholesome do you think your food is from the US?

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unless you see it pulled from the ground or slaughtered , it's always questionable. Look at the frequency of lettuce-poo contaminations ...

You can find good meat and vegetables. There are still plenty of small farmers, plain and organic and local. You just have to do some research and go out and visit the farms, which, is too much work for 95% of the people. This is about as close as you can get to growing it yourself.

Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Mortalis5509 on February 19, 2020, 09:00:51 AM
All USDA (under FSIS) have the same standards in the US for inspection. Their code book, CFR has so much gray area it's crazy. So much is left open to interpretation.

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Title: Re: Fish worms
Post by: Trailabite on February 19, 2020, 09:05:03 AM
All USDA (under FSIS) have the same standards in the US for inspection. Their code book, CFR has so much gray area it's crazy. So much is left open to interpretation.

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If I recall, it has not been changed since the 50's......