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Title: Dream Theater
Post by: Will on April 16, 2008, 12:34:12 PM
I've been waiting to see them for a long time. I'm goin! May 28 at the Tabernacle.    {toast}
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 12:40:01 PM
I am going.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Will on April 16, 2008, 12:40:26 PM
I am going.

That's what I thought  ;D
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Daniel on April 16, 2008, 12:41:33 PM
Not me! 
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
Will, are you seriously going?  Tickets are $200
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: BigJerm on April 16, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
who are they  ???
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Will on April 16, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
Will, are you seriously going?  Tickets are $200


 ??? General standing room: $35

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0E004044F8FEA4FF?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 01:56:30 PM
Ahh yes, standing room.  Sooooooo, you wanna meet up and go?  I can go ahead and buy the tickets if you want and you can pay me when you get a chance.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Daniel on April 16, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
who are they  ???

I've only heard bits and pieces of their music, but they didn't really blow me away.  But someone else like these other 2 bantering buffoons could really answer you.  ;D

However, I did watch the dubbed over excercises on youtube that John Petrucci did and they were pretty funny.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 02:15:45 PM
Musical Geniuses.  These guys are no main stream pop band.  If I had to say, they rank among the most talented "true" musicians in history.

Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
Sounds like some metallica wanna be's :-\
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 02:41:29 PM
LMAO!  These guys were arranging music before James Hetfield was a seedling in the music industry.

Ask ANY of todays guitarists who their influence is..........one will be John Petrucci.
Ask ANY of todays drummers who their influence is..........one will be Mike Portnoy.
Ask ANY of todays bassists who their influence is..........one will be John Myung.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 02:48:31 PM
Daniel who is your influence?

I doubt those names would be at the top of many peoples lists.

BTW how many more hits did they have over metallica?
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 02:54:23 PM
"Hits" don't make a musician.  Pop/Mainstream music is a joke.  I laugh when I hear 30 people a day with the "Rockstar" ringtone from Nickelback.  I love wheeling, but my first passion is music.  I have been a musician for 15 years, have been in bands, recorded, been rocorded and up until last September, organized and hosted monthly concerts in Dalton for local underground bands.  Poll ANY good, well rounded guitarist and he will say one of his influences is Petrucci.  Poll any well rounded, progressive rock drummer and one of his influences will be Portnoy and another will me Peart.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 02:59:40 PM
Out of 100, look who #1 and #11 are.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html




Out of 100, look who #12 is.  I don't even see Kirk Hammett on the list.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitar-metal.html
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 03:59:34 PM
Out of 100, look who #1 and #11 are.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html




Out of 100, look who #12 is.  I don't even see Kirk Hammett on the list.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitar-metal.html


I dont recall saying Kirk Hammett was the best at anything.  Who's top list is this? Someone else on the internet with an opinion. I say if your a great band then eventually your music will hit mainstream weather you like it or not. The artist doesnt decide this. I am just saying that if you compare the two bands Dreams Theater sound like a band that has many more songs that I would rather listen to. If I do a search on the internet I could find hundreds of more greatest list...They will all have different artists and will all have hundreds of different opinions. I hate these bands that say, we dont play for fame or money. Usually theses are the same bands that suck.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 04:09:46 PM
I say if your a great band then eventually your music will hit mainstream weather you like it or not. The artist doesnt decide this.

Oh but yes they can decide if they want to go mainstream, especially when they produce their own music.  See, most pop bands are under the spell of a pop record company who owns their nuts.  I almost stink of the politics of music because I have been around it behind the scenes, been around the table when folks want you to "sign here" and lurked during negotiations.  Trust me, music is just like news.  You hear what people want you to hear.  Great musicianship is less than 10% of todays music industry.  Anybody with a good voice can suck the right executive penai, get a record contract, make a hit and disappear.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: WOLVERINE on April 16, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
LMAO!  These guys were arranging music before James Hetfield was a seedling in the music industry.

Ask ANY of todays guitarists who their influence is..........one will be John Petrucci.
Ask ANY of todays drummers who their influence is..........one will be Mike Portnoy.
Ask ANY of todays bassists who their influence is..........one will be John Myung.

Thats odd considering Metallica were formed in 1981 and Dream Theater in 1985 !!!!!
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 05:08:43 PM
I say if your a great band then eventually your music will hit mainstream weather you like it or not. The artist doesnt decide this.

Oh but yes they can decide if they want to go mainstream, especially when they produce their own music.  See, most pop bands are under the spell of a pop record company who owns their nuts.  I almost stink of the politics of music because I have been around it behind the scenes, been around the table when folks want you to "sign here" and lurked during negotiations.  Trust me, music is just like news.  You hear what people want you to hear.  Great musicianship is less than 10% of todays music industry.  Anybody with a good voice can suck the right executive penai, get a record contract, make a hit and disappear.

Well I agree that "the man" forces us to hear what they want us to, through radio play, tv, etc. (BIGGEST EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW - American Idol, they are shoving that sorry ass little kid down our throats, I am sick of hearing him sing the same old shit every week. He forgets his lyrics and doesnt even hit the bottom three. That show is rigged or else they would show the voting results.) But anyways if your great you will get heard and not through "the man"
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 05:10:05 PM
 ;D  David Archuleta FTW!  :D :D :D

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-03/36572816.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: WOLVERINE on April 16, 2008, 05:11:58 PM
I say if your a great band then eventually your music will hit mainstream weather you like it or not. The artist doesnt decide this.

Oh but yes they can decide if they want to go mainstream, especially when they produce their own music.  See, most pop bands are under the spell of a pop record company who owns their nuts.  I almost stink of the politics of music because I have been around it behind the scenes, been around the table when folks want you to "sign here" and lurked during negotiations.  Trust me, music is just like news.  You hear what people want you to hear.  Great musicianship is less than 10% of todays music industry.  Anybody with a good voice can suck the right executive penai, get a record contract, make a hit and disappear.

Thats all shit! There is not one band on Earth that plays just for the music!! They all talk big and bash Corporate rock but when and If they become popular they never turn back! You think if they played a huge stadium tour and were a top ten grossing band that they would say "  oooh we better stop being succesful".. Bullshit.  Perfect Example..Queensryche. They had a huge underground / cult following they made a number of "Opera" Story albums and once they became popular what did they do.  STADIUMS, MTV, GRAMMY AWARDS etc.... If a band or musician says he does'nt play for money or fame hes a liar.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: WOLVERINE on April 16, 2008, 05:20:23 PM
"Hits" don't make a musician.  Pop/Mainstream music is a joke.  I laugh when I hear 30 people a day with the "Rockstar" ringtone from Nickelback.  I love wheeling, but my first passion is music.  I have been a musician for 15 years, have been in bands, recorded, been rocorded and up until last September, organized and hosted monthly concerts in Dalton for local underground bands.  Poll ANY good, well rounded guitarist and he will say one of his influences is Petrucci.  Poll any well rounded, progressive rock drummer and one of his influences will be Portnoy and another will me Peart.



Portnoy.........WHO????????
Petrucci.........WHO???????

Are you talking about famous people or guys from Jersey' who drive Camaro's.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Jimmy on April 16, 2008, 05:26:11 PM
Meh, I'll stick to my hippy-jam-band-music and my classic rock/classic-hippy-jam-band-music.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 05:33:47 PM
Thats all shit!

Is your vagina hurting again?  If so, my wife said you can borrow a tampon.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 05:35:10 PM
Portnoy.........WHO????????
Petrucci.........WHO???????

Are you talking about famous people or guys from Jersey' who drive Camaro's.


I wouldnt expect less from an avid follower of Justin Timberlake and Josh Groban.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 05:37:58 PM
Portnoy.........WHO????????
Petrucci.........WHO???????

Are you talking about famous people or guys from Jersey' who drive Camaro's.

Josh Groban.

There you go with another no namer...
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: WOLVERINE on April 16, 2008, 05:40:37 PM
Meh, I'll stick to my hippy-jam-band-music and my classic rock/classic-hippy-jam-band-music.

I used to be a serious music fan. But, too many years of shitty, boring, Emo Jerk-offs, and 5000 MTV sound alike shit bands with nasal voices and whinny songs about ex girlfriends did me in. There has'nt been a good solid band since "Rage" broke up..
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: WOLVERINE on April 16, 2008, 05:52:03 PM
LMAO!  These guys were arranging music before James Hetfield was a seedling in the music industry.

Ask ANY of todays guitarists who their influence is..........one will be John Petrucci.
Ask ANY of todays drummers who their influence is..........one will be Mike Portnoy.
Ask ANY of todays bassists who their influence is..........one will be John Myung.

Thats odd considering Metallica were formed in 1981 and Dream Theater in 1985 !!!!!

On top of being the GREATEST ROCK BAND THAT EVER EXISTED..They must also have the ability of time travel. right?  Because I dont understand how a band formed in 1985 can be around before a band formed in 1981.

Does Dream Theater spin around the stage real fast like Superman did?  Or are they so AWESOME at playing music that the "GODS OF ROCK" gave them cool time travel rings...How do they do it.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: WOLVERINE on April 16, 2008, 05:53:22 PM
Maybe they have the real PICK OF DESTINY.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Daniel on April 16, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
Well, I can't say that Mike Portnoy shaped the way I play drums, due to the fact that I don't listen to them.  However, I'm not gonna bash him, because he's better than I am.  Neal Peart however is an awesome drummer.  They don't call him "The Professor" for nothing.  I like to watch drummers with crazy, elaborate and complicated drum fills, but for the most part, I like pretty simple semi-complicated stuff, like Nick Mason.  He's not the most technical drummer out there, but I could listen to him play drums all day long.  A few drummers I like are Chad Smith, Nick Mason, Neal Peart, and Pete McCarthy to name a few.  Now, there's many more out there that I like, but...
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: DILYSI Dave on April 16, 2008, 06:58:42 PM
My $.02 as a musician, though a hack one.

I respect what they can do, but I don't like listening to them.  It's musical masturbation.  Now, Dream Theater is far from the worst offender (I think Steve Vai holds that title still), but they are on the list. 

Soul > Technical Prowess.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on April 16, 2008, 08:48:04 PM
Will, our tickets and parking pass are in my hands!  ;D

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x147/Chris_Hyde/Miscellaneous/DT-Tickets.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Will on April 16, 2008, 08:54:37 PM
whoa, whoa, what the hell? ... haha where did all this hatin' start?

I play guitar, I've tried to play drums, and I respect the hell out of bass, and there has been no other band (Besides Rush when they want to) that makes me say "What the F***!" when I see what they're doing. They're all amazing. And I personally have a lot of fun when listening to and witnessing raw talent like their's. They will never be main stream because average folks will not recognize the ridiculous licks and rifts they're laying. That's why they're mostly only recognized by musicians who wish the could play that well. 

Now if we're talking about all around favorite bands... YES    I'll listen to that stuff all day


Thanks Chris, you're awesome.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 09:00:59 PM
To Each, His Own!

I will stick with great bands like Sgt KICK ASS  nln
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Daniel on April 16, 2008, 09:19:28 PM
I will stick with great bands like Sgt KICK ASS  nln

MATT YOU ARE THE MAN!!!   {toast}

That's why they're mostly only recognized by musicians who wish the could play that well.

Which I guess is another reason that I don't listen to them.  I can listen to "amazing" musicians, but I'm not one to focus on being like someone so much that that's all I listen to.  I would love to be able to play like some many drummers, but it's not my style.  That's not how I play.  I will never play like Neal Peart and that's fine, because his style isn't mine or my band's style of music. 
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Matt on April 16, 2008, 09:30:40 PM
Nicely said. Wouldnt you rather be the guy everyone else is trying to sound like, instead of trying to sound like everyone else?
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 29, 2008, 12:07:53 PM
Helloooooooooooooooooooooo Atlanta!  ;D  Was Jordan Rudess in his element or what?
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Will on May 29, 2008, 12:13:36 PM
Helloooooooooooooooooooooo Atlanta!  ;D  Was Jordan Rudess in his element or what?

Dude... every freakin' lick was jaw dropping! Thanks for going with me Chris, that was an absolute blast. Every one of them was in the zone. I couldn't pick one to watch because they were all so awesome. Myung never stops on the bass... my lord, and of course Petrucci and Portnoy are simply gods. I will NOT miss that show next year. May go a little earlier so I can get closer to the stage though.

Did you hear that girl behind you when we pulled our Jeep shotgun? haha, she was not very happy
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 29, 2008, 12:22:42 PM
Did you hear that girl behind you when we pulled our Jeep shotgun? haha, she was not very happy

LOL!  I thought I heard a few choice words getting mumbled behind you.  :D  That's just how we roll.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 29, 2008, 12:24:47 PM
I may go a little earlier so I can get closer to the stage though.

LOL, I heard that.  Some of those folks smelled ripe.
Title: Re: Dream Theater
Post by: Will on May 29, 2008, 12:26:17 PM
Way too much fun.  :)