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Title: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 06:56:53 PM
where is a good place to get rock rails some lift parts and some body armor.. and some other things for Specs so i can ride with u all... any where i want the armor and rock rails to be metal keep that in mind...

THanks!
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Will on May 05, 2008, 07:51:53 PM
where is a good place to get rock rails some lift parts and some body armor.. and some other things for Specs so i can ride with u all... any where i want the armor and rock rails to be metal keep that in mind...

THanks!

A to Z fabrication makes some nice (and fairly priced) 3/16" rock rails. They've got other armor too. Check out there site:

http://www.atozfabrication.com/catalog/jeeptjwrangler19972006rockerguards-p-2.html

What kind of lift are you wanting to run?
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 09:55:19 PM
like 2' body then maybe 4' suspension with like 33' Mickey t's
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 05, 2008, 09:56:36 PM
You don't need 2" body and 4" suspension for 33's.  You can run 33's on a 2" budget boost and 1" body lift.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 10:00:58 PM
well i want nice clearance b/c WHEN i go off-road i want it to be no problems... and if i come riding with yall... i want to keep up!...  {toast}
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 05, 2008, 10:03:46 PM
Well, like I said, you can run 33's on 3" of lift.  Having 6" of lift isnt gonna make you "keep up" any better than with the budget boost if you are running 33's.  You'de be better off getting a tummy tuck along with the BB if you want clearance since most TJ's hang on the belly more than anything.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 10:05:47 PM
#1 Tummy tuck?..
#2 if thats all i need for places like atena and tellico what would be an investment as well as these minor adjustments
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 05, 2008, 10:10:30 PM
#1 Tummy tuck?..
#2 if thats all i need for places like atena and tellico what would be an investment as well as these minor adjustments

Tummy tuck consists of moving the transfer case up and using a high clearance transfer case skid.  You generally gain about 3" of clearance, but will also need an SYE and CV driveshaft in the rear to help get rid of the vibes from doing the lift and tummy tuck.  Another good investment or two is front locker, steering upgrade/tie rod and differential covers.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 10:14:42 PM
May i add im 17 in Hs and work at pizza hut?...lol im not to rich i can do the normal things but since im on piss poor pay... its hard to get a new drive shaft ... they are pretty pricey... from what i know..i mean i spend.. like 80% of the time on the road.. so.. upgrades that will allow me to kick ass off-road but yet be able to drive to school and stuff to..
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Chris Hyde on May 05, 2008, 10:20:42 PM
Yeah, being in HS and working for PastaHut probably is the best combo for driving a Jeep and especially not for wanting to mod one to be capable in semi-aggressive off roading.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 10:22:18 PM
i mean im getting help from my dad when ever i want a mod.. its just i have to buy the tires and the Suspension lift and what not...
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 05, 2008, 10:24:25 PM
ya know i just want to be able to off-road and still have a bad ass TJ my friend tuckers jeep is awesome.. and his wasnt that bad... but his dad did it all so he just drives it and doesnt know whats on it... so im kind of lost at this point..
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 05, 2008, 11:20:15 PM
Get a locker. Whats under the cover matters. Best mod ever.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: BigJerm on May 05, 2008, 11:24:27 PM
ok given your situation I offer a little advice.

You are already on 33's, so leave the lift and tires alone for now. Get some armor for the Jeep. Some side protection would be top on my list. I always thought it was pointless unless you were nuts offroad but I have wacked mine quite a few times now. I would probably also look into an Aussie locker for the front (I will one day have one as well). I know you have talked about your friends Jeep on 5" and 37's or w/e but you also said his dad did it all. I am going to guess his dad makes a little more money than you do so I wouldnt worry with trying to compare to his Jeep (as hard as that is). Build it for what you need it to do and the only way to find that out is to get out and wheel the Jeep.

Dont worry about "keeping up". We are not blazing up the trails, we stop for each other and as long as you have tow points we will pull you up, over or out of anything you cant make.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 12:25:20 PM
i dont have 33' i want to get 33' tires im on 31' right now and its not lifted.. im building it to the point so i can come off-road with u all and still fit the part...
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: georgiatj on May 06, 2008, 12:30:02 PM
If you want cheap and capable, 2" spacers 1" body lift and quick discos you are good. 33" tires no problem and you have decent offroad capabilities.

Back in high school i wheeled a ton of places with that set up, not the BEST set up thats for sure but it will work for ya no problem. spacers run bout $80, body lift about $80-100 and a decent set of disconnects around 70 or so, not to mention you can usually find those parts used or alot cheaper

Edit: Or if you can find some factory rubicon coils, I threw some spacers, shocks and my old rubi coils i had on my jeep on a good friends and he ran 33s without a problem, wheeling it not just on road.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Grass Janitor on May 06, 2008, 01:04:49 PM
As you can see in my sig, I'm only running 31s (ATs at that) and a budget boost.  I've only been out once with these guys but like they've said, if you have a jeep and you want to wheel, bring it on.  Yes we all want 37s but we have to do what we can afford.  I think you're getting some good advice, I know my next mods will all be armor related and then I'm considering adding a 1" BL to my BB so I can run 33s, and that will probably be it for me b/c of my Dana 35 and the costs of upgrading, plus the costs of lift/tires.  I did put an aussie locker in my front D30 and it's the best 250 bucks you'll ever spend.  Most of the trails/parks have ways around the toughest obstacles if your jeep isn't ready for them, and I'll reiterate the point that the best way to decide where to spend your money on mods is to just get out and wheel your rig, the trail will tell you where you're lacking. 

You mentioned specs in your original post, if you're talking about required equipment for trail rides, you can pick up a cheap auto fire ext at Home Depot, Uniden Pro510 CB for around $50 online (antenna is extra, be sure to get it tuned by a CB shop), you probably already have recovery points but if not they're available through any 4x4 vendor as are straps (NO METAL ENDS!!!). 
Check out Rusty's off road or Skid Row skids, there are a ton of companies doing rockers, depends on how much you want to spend. 
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: BigJerm on May 06, 2008, 01:09:54 PM
nicely put 01RedTJ.

We all wanna be like the big boys on 37's but ill just settle for my little 35's  :'(

We all know what it is like to be on a tight budget. I remember saving every penny to put a turbo on my first car in highschool and it was hell doing it. Just make sure you meet our requirements and you are good to go. There are bypass's and plenty of winches in the group so you are covered. I say go for the spacers now. They are cheap, affected and get the lift you want. All i have are 2.5" coil spacers right now and I do fine.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 04:27:03 PM
Think ill do that with spacers and lift with 33'... thanks for the advice guys keep idea coming tho.. im still not set on what i want... and may i add. (Again) you all are helping me so much since im "New to this stuff"...so plz keep ideas coming....

THanks..J33plover
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Daniel on May 06, 2008, 05:25:52 PM
I read some of it but not all of the posts, another thing that would help you save money is not to buy Mickey Thompson tires.  There's cheaper tires out there.  Since you said you're going to have to buy those.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 06:46:46 PM
well whats a good brand of tires that does A/T or Mudders... prices would be nice to know if possible
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 06:57:21 PM
Mastercraft courser mts runs around 500.00. I would buy used though I find 33s all day long with rims for 500.00
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 07:04:33 PM
where would i find these.. ebay?....
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Daniel on May 06, 2008, 07:06:23 PM
well whats a good brand of tires that does A/T or Mudders... prices would be nice to know if possible

I mean if you've got your mind made up on Mickey's don't let me dissuade you from getting them.  I haven't heard anyone complain about them.  But I know there's cheaper.  I run Maxxis Bighorns, Chris, Matt, Adam, and Doug (Slippery) have all either run or are running Bighorns, they were relatively cheap when I bought them.  I paid $535 shipped, new.  I think they've went up a little from the guy I bought them from.  Matt might know of a place that sells them for a little less, might have to ask him the place though can't remember where it was or how much the tires were.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
535 each?.... :o
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 07:11:03 PM
no total.



I had a set of the Mickey Ts and would not buy another set not all that good to me.
I like the Bfg mt for about the same money.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Daniel on May 06, 2008, 07:14:30 PM
535 each?.... :o

No... I wish I had that kinda money.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 07:16:53 PM
what about maxxis buckshots?
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Daniel on May 06, 2008, 07:17:45 PM
what about maxxis buckshots?

Ben H. has those.  Ask him about them.  I know they were a little cheaper I think, but they were my 2nd choice if I couldn't find some reasonable Bighorns.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 07:23:51 PM
 {toast}   idk what to get
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Ben H. on May 06, 2008, 07:26:34 PM
what about maxxis buckshots?

Ben H. has those.  Ask him about them.  I know they were a little cheaper I think, but they were my 2nd choice if I couldn't find some reasonable Bighorns.

Buckshots are a good tire, I like them. They will be louder then the Bighorns and don't have the sidewall tread, but I think they clean a little better and will have a longer tread life.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 07:27:36 PM
I have heard they are ok. I looked at a set but decided to go a different route.

Check these out

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pts/656225848.html

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pts/647693900.html

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=191386&highlight=33

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=191306&highlight=33

Just a quick search I done. The guys on gon will take less if you pm them.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 07:51:37 PM
If you want cheap and capable, 2" spacers 1" body lift and quick discos you are good. 33" tires no problem and you have decent offroad capabilities



Would this make my jeep look a decent amount higher?.. Just wondering
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 08:18:36 PM
BUMP
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 08:22:50 PM
Its not going to be monster truck difference but yes you will be ale to tell a difference.

But if you want looks just do a 3" body and 3" lift. You want gain anything.

Would you rather look good in bed or perform good in bed?
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
i do both  :P

Would i be able to get a 3' suspension lift and keep the spacers and BL?.... and 33' still look good
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 08:28:18 PM
Yes it would still look good. BUT DO NOT DO A 3" BODY LIFT...................
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 08:29:22 PM
No you can not do a 3' lift on a jeep.




























You can do a 3" lift though. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 08:33:26 PM
woooow..... thx.. lol {btt}
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
I think you are lost..  ' = feet " = inches. Back to the topic ??? ??? ??? ??? Go to jeep forum and ask these questions.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Matt on May 06, 2008, 09:13:28 PM
Oh come on.. he just wants some help.


I do fine with my set up. I could do better with more money and parts though.

You should definitely focus on traction, ie locker!

33" tires dont need a ton of lift. 3-4" is plenty.

1" BL is a good idea for alot of other parts like gas tank and tummy skids.

Which should probably be your first investment with other armor parts.

1.Armor
2.Locker
3.Bigger
4.Better

you get it.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 09:52:35 PM
If you want cheap and capable, 2" spacers 1" body lift and quick discos you are good. 33" tires no problem and you have decent offroad capabilities.

Back in high school i wheeled a ton of places with that set up, not the BEST set up thats for sure but it will work for ya no problem. spacers run bout $80, body lift about $80-100 and a decent set of disconnects around 70 or so, not to mention you can usually find those parts used or alot cheaper

Edit: Or if you can find some factory rubicon coils, I threw some spacers, shocks and my old rubi coils i had on my jeep on a good friends and he ran 33s without a problem, wheeling it not just on road.

People have tried to help

Then I joke by saying you cant do a 3' lift and he gets pissy and put  {btt}
 Sorry if I mad anyone mad. But read my previous post.
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: j33plover on May 06, 2008, 09:55:53 PM
im not pissy it was all out of fun.. i dont take anything personally... you can say anything to me its all good... but any way  {btt}
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: ranger11 on May 06, 2008, 10:04:08 PM
Just making sure. I try not to make any one mad. But your jeep would look good with a 1" body and 3" susp. and you would do great with 33's. Im sure more people will chime in and let us know. Anyhow  {btt} What is that?
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Krawler00 on May 06, 2008, 11:09:27 PM
Chiming in late but better than never. I ran a 2" BB and 1" BL for years on 33's. Needless to say if you choose to disconnect the front axle and really flex you may need to adjust bump stops etc. I am running a trxus mud tire and it is a true 33" tire. I had to trim my fenders to flex and turn fully. For what you are looking for I would go this route. BBs are cheap and so are BLs. I ran this setup all over Tellico the first time I went. If you are careful and pick good lines you will be fine. I would also say get a locker in front or rear. I went with a full detroit so I have posi at all times. It's up to you but it depends on what you want to spend!! ;)
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: georgiatj on May 07, 2008, 03:25:02 PM
Basically if you want cheap but effective, my previous post has you set up.

I mean i even have a friend who ran a 3" body lift, 2" coil spacers, 35s and discos and he never had a problem there.



If anyone has experience with cheapest possible suspension lifts its me haha back in high school i went through probably about 3-4 different suspension set ups.  Gimme a little while and i'll post up some pics so you know what you are lookin at
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: georgiatj on May 07, 2008, 03:41:12 PM
2" suspension spacers, rubicon coils, teraflex discos, and rancho shocks were all i had in suspension at the time.  Now i did still have the 3" body that was on there when i bought the jeep in these pics.  Body lifts are fine but i wouldn't go more than 1" in that area 3" is no good.


(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/georgiatj/IMG_0166.jpg)
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/georgiatj/IMG_0163.jpg)
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/georgiatj/n71103882_30265126_9943.jpg)
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/georgiatj/760241_99_full.jpg)

3" body lift, 2" spacers and t-flex discos on 35s on my friends jeep.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/georgiatj/n71103882_30265128_728.jpg)


Also one of my best friends got the rubicon coils i had off of my jeep when i put the 4" suspension on, he ran 2" spacers, rubi coils and my old pro comp shocks w/ 33s no problems at all.  Unfortunately i do not have a pic of his old TJ
Title: Re: PARTS
Post by: Krawler00 on May 08, 2008, 03:06:14 PM
Here are some pics from when I had my 2"BB and 1"BL. Flexed like crazy for stock!

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