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Title: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: thetastelingers on April 29, 2015, 03:17:42 PM
38 special Rossi Revolver
Never shot.
$300 In Chattanooga
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Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 29, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Do you live in Chattanooga , Tn?

If so it is illegal to sell a handgun over state line
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: clark123456 on April 29, 2015, 05:03:38 PM
Define "sell".  May I drive there from Georgia, buy it, and then drive back to Georgia?

- Torg

Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 29, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
If he is a resident of TN he can't sell it to somebody in GA and a GA person can't buy it legally
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 29, 2015, 06:20:52 PM
Rifles are OK just not Handguns
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: tcdawg on April 29, 2015, 06:44:49 PM

Do you live in Chattanooga , Tn?

If so it is illegal to sell a handgun over state line

Who will know?
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 29, 2015, 06:47:14 PM

Do you live in Chattanooga , Tn?

If so it is illegal to sell a handgun over state line

Who will know?
You better never get caught with it.  Even if it is your gun and you move states there is alot of legal paper work involved.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 29, 2015, 06:48:56 PM
As soon. As he answers I will clean thread up
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: Big Dave on April 29, 2015, 08:16:19 PM
Rifles are OK just not Handguns

Some laws are just plain asinine.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 29, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
You can sell a hand gun across state line but you have to do a FFL transfer which is like buying a new one with paper work plus transfer fees
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: tcdawg on April 29, 2015, 08:50:52 PM
I don't get it.

Not disagreeing with any laws. Laws are laws.

But...I buy a hand gun from Mr X. I meet him in Canton, Ga. I have no idea where he lives. No paper work done. Cash deal. I have guns bought just like this. The gun is now my gun. How do I get in trouble and/or how does the seller get in trouble?

Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: SemperFiArms on April 29, 2015, 11:14:20 PM
Let me see if I can explain this. As an FFL I can sell a rifle to a non-resident of Georgia. Up until this past winter a non-resident of any state could not purchase a handgun from any state except their own. I presided over a transfer between a guy from North Carolina and another from the Atlanta area. The guy from NC was trading a handgun for a rifle from the guy in Atlanta.

I would have to double check the regulations but I do think it is restricted that individuals from different states have to go through an FFL to transfer any firearms.

Now the fun starts. This past February a federal judge ruled that the regulation restricting interstate handgun sales was unconstitutional and struck it down. Since then I have not yet received any word from the ATF rescinding that regulation and I currently don't know if there has been any gun shops willing to challenge it yet risking their FFL's. The second part is I don't know how the judges ruling applies to the private party sales across state lines.

http://jurist.org/paperchase/2015/02/federal-judge-strikes-down-ban-on-interstate-handgun-sales.php (http://jurist.org/paperchase/2015/02/federal-judge-strikes-down-ban-on-interstate-handgun-sales.php)

Just to error on the side of caution I would consider and interstate sale of the firearm between private parties to still be illegal.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: thetastelingers on April 30, 2015, 08:21:01 AM
Whoa this thread blew up. I thought I had notifications turned on. Sorry I haven't answered until now.
Selling for my dad. He lives in Ringgold.  //;)//
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: thetastelingers on April 30, 2015, 08:24:34 AM

Do you live in Chattanooga , Tn?

If so it is illegal to sell a handgun over state line

Who will know?
You better never get caught with it.  Even if it is your gun and you move states there is alot of legal paper work involved.
Really? I have lots of guns that I purchased before I moved to Tennessee.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 30, 2015, 08:26:54 AM
Whoa this thread blew up. I thought I had notifications turned on. Sorry I haven't answered until now.
Selling for my dad. He lives in Ringgold.  //;)//
If he lives in Ringgold and he sells it everything is cool.

I just don't want to see anybody get in trouble or get a gun taken away and be out the money they spent.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: 8lugLJ on April 30, 2015, 10:05:56 AM
@cru9 , @SemperFiArms , correct me if im wrong, but isnt there some kind of law that states something to effect of if the individual buys for a "reasonable" price no matter if the gun is stolen, across state lines, whatever, it still takes the buyer out of lawful responsibility because he bought the gun in "good faith"
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 30, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
Nope. Here is a perfect example. A guy recently just bought a gun from a pawn shop. Gun was stolen but later found out gun was used in a crime. Gun was tracked down to new owner. Cops took gun and new guy is out gun and $500 plus dollars. If gun has any negative history and it's tracked down you loose it.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 30, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
Answer your question new buyer doesn't get in trouble just looses gun and money paid for gun.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: 8lugLJ on April 30, 2015, 10:15:53 AM
Answer your question new buyer doesn't get in trouble just looses gun and money paid for gun.

this ^^ thats what i was told by our sheriff here in Union Co. I guess if i was thinking i woulda realized it had nothing to do with sales over state lines, other than the individual isnt charged.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 30, 2015, 10:27:25 AM
Answer your question new buyer doesn't get in trouble just looses gun and money paid for gun.

this ^^ thats what i was told by our sheriff here in Union Co. I guess if i was thinking i woulda realized it had nothing to do with sales over state lines, other than the individual isnt charged.
I think it would be a deciding factor of what kind of problem gun history was. If you got pulled over and gun ended up stolen after a serial number check gun would be taken by police and you would be arrested also. With possession of stolen property.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: SemperFiArms on April 30, 2015, 10:58:29 AM
Answer your question new buyer doesn't get in trouble just looses gun and money paid for gun.

this ^^ thats what i was told by our sheriff here in Union Co. I guess if i was thinking i woulda realized it had nothing to do with sales over state lines, other than the individual isnt charged.
I think it would be a deciding factor of what kind of problem gun history was. If you got pulled over and gun ended up stolen after a serial number check gun would be taken by police and you would be arrested also. With possession of stolen property.

Bobby you are correct. It would be up to the person in possession of the gun to prove they purchased it with no knowledge of it being stolen. We could go on for days with some of the really asinine gun laws and regulations.

Just a good rule of thumb for private party sales, always get a bill of sale. it doesn't have to be fancy, just a piece of note book paper would do. Sellers name and address, buyers name and address, item being sold (including serial number) and signatures. This way if something like that ever occurred you would be protected. It would never need to be filed anywhere just kept with your personal documents.
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: cru9 on April 30, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
Answer your question new buyer doesn't get in trouble just looses gun and money paid for gun.

this ^^ thats what i was told by our sheriff here in Union Co. I guess if i was thinking i woulda realized it had nothing to do with sales over state lines, other than the individual isnt charged.
I think it would be a deciding factor of what kind of problem gun history was. If you got pulled over and gun ended up stolen after a serial number check gun would be taken by police and you would be arrested also. With possession of stolen property.

Bobby you are correct. It would be up to the person in possession of the gun to prove they purchased it with no knowledge of it being stolen. We could go on for days with some of the really asinine gun laws and regulations.

Just a good rule of thumb for private party sales, always get a bill of sale. it doesn't have to be fancy, just a piece of note book paper would do. Sellers name and address, buyers name and address, item being sold (including serial number) and signatures. This way if something like that ever occurred you would be protected. It would never need to be filed anywhere just kept with your personal documents.
Very true!
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: Krawler00 on April 30, 2015, 11:01:28 AM
So... you gonna buy this thing or not  //LMAO//
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: patman on April 30, 2015, 11:16:32 AM
If the gun is stolen, it's returned to its original owner if you can prove it's you.

Old college room mate had his glock stolen from GA and used in a crime in NY. He reported it stolen, was notified when it was found, and received it back about 8 months later.

So yea, a bill of sale is always good. Just make  sure you buy from the lawful owner :)
Title: Re: Rossi 38 special never shot
Post by: DOUG on April 30, 2015, 11:43:53 AM
If the gun is stolen, it's returned to its original owner if you can prove it's you.

Old college room mate had his glock stolen from GA and used in a crime in NY. He reported it stolen, was notified when it was found, and received it back about 8 months later.

So yea, a bill of sale is always good. Just make  sure you buy from the lawful owner :)

Not in Dekalb County.... they destroyed mine.