Post by: Grant.Monty on December 11, 2014, 07:52:37 PM
Has anyone out there used por15 on their jeep? I am wondering if it is any good. Also is there any way you can apply it to the frame without taking the whole tub off? (I am asking this because I am only 16 and my parents won't let me take the tub off)
Thanks, Grant
Post by: DOUG on December 11, 2014, 08:01:49 PM
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 11, 2014, 08:21:25 PM
Post by: Danny Kinder on December 11, 2014, 08:36:35 PM
Post by: clark123456 on December 11, 2014, 08:39:14 PM
Parents don't always know best and the best way to learn is to just do something. So, get them to go away for a weekend and then do it.
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 11, 2014, 08:53:02 PM
Hi grant, i'm not sure... what model jeep do you have? Maybe someone here can help, but you should try jeepforum.com as well.And I already posted on the forum and they said it was good but no one told me if I have to take the frame off or not.
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 11, 2014, 08:54:40 PM
POR 15 is a great product. You can brush it on, so no need to remove the tub. Can't really say I blame your parents for that one //OLDSKOOL//How much do you think I need to do the whole frame?
Post by: Scott F. on December 11, 2014, 09:07:41 PM
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 11, 2014, 09:19:55 PM
I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).One question, did you use their prep setup with the marine wash and metal prep spray?
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
Post by: tcdawg on December 11, 2014, 10:23:37 PM
I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).One question, did you use their prep setup with the marine wash and metal prep spray?
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
I used both those products on an axle. I wasn't overly impressed with either one....I would just use a good degreaser and then wash and rinse well.
Post by: 94xjsport94 on December 12, 2014, 01:26:39 AM
I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
This. I painted the bottom of 3 2500lb bread dough mixers with it at work to prevent rust and corrosion. Great product.
I just like rattle cans on the Jeep though.
Post by: DOUG on December 12, 2014, 07:55:36 AM
I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
Now that's some good detailed info.
Does his stuff go over rust and stop it?
Post by: Scott F. on December 12, 2014, 08:14:48 AM
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Now that's some good detailed info.
Does his stuff go over rust and stop it?
From what I noticed on my frame where it peeled up or was scraped off from rock rash, the best way I would describe it is it "encapsulates" the rust. I cleaned it with the marine clean (which like Tony said wasn't anything special) knocked off the heavy rust and then brushed over the light surface rust. The rust was still there when the POR peeled. Seemed like it bonded to the rust and sealed it off.
To the OP, you said it was an 02, so unless it is heavily rusted like it came from up north I would probably just use regular paint. You can buy rustoleum or other brands in quarts instead of rattle cans so you could brush it on and not have to worry about overspray all over the bottom of the tub.
Post by: kvom on December 12, 2014, 09:12:04 AM
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 12, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Yeah, I am just looking for a way to prevent rust.Quote
Now that's some good detailed info.
Does his stuff go over rust and stop it?
From what I noticed on my frame where it peeled up or was scraped off from rock rash, the best way I would describe it is it "encapsulates" the rust. I cleaned it with the marine clean (which like Tony said wasn't anything special) knocked off the heavy rust and then brushed over the light surface rust. The rust was still there when the POR peeled. Seemed like it bonded to the rust and sealed it off.
To the OP, you said it was an 02, so unless it is heavily rusted like it came from up north I would probably just use regular paint. You can buy rustoleum or other brands in quarts instead of rattle cans so you could brush it on and not have to worry about overspray all over the bottom of the tub.
Post by: patman on December 12, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
Post by: DOUG on December 12, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 12, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
Are the tubs and/or frames galvanized starting with the TJ?I think the frames are
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 12, 2014, 03:17:51 PM
Post by: patman on December 12, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
Does anyone think the rustoleum protective enamel will workyes. If you spray, mask everything off well. If you brush, I recommend using a roller on the larger sections to get a smoother looking finish.
*Prep work is critical to a successful paint job. Clean and degrease thoroughly
Post by: 8lugLJ on December 12, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
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yes. If you spray, mask everything off well. If you brush, I recommend using a roller on the larger sections to get a smoother looking finish.
*Prep work is critical to a successful paint job. Clean and degrease thoroughly
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this ^^^ prep is most important, but at the same time NOTHING will stand up to a 4500lb rig getting drug over rocks. not even the almighty powdercoat. Best and easiest way to prep is to go to your local parts house and ask for a couple "red" scuff pads, they are very abrasive, so dont hit anything you dont want to scratch. Get under the rig with a hose and a bottle of dawn dish detergent and scuff like theres no tomorrow, then when you think you are done, go over all of it again, then you should be good. If you use the POR, just go at it, but if you are going to rattle can it, get a product that either says "etching" or "direct to metal" either of these will bite into the surface and make your topcoat of whatever color you choose last a lil longer. Use light coats too, this is where everyone screws up, dont get in a hurry, take your time. If the tub thing still bothers you, ask your dad or parents or whatever if you can just unbolt the tub and lift it far enough up to get a lil more room. Good luck
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 12, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
Post by: DOUG on December 12, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
Last question, does anyone know how to clean the inside of the frame? I am finding a lot of dirt and sand in there.
Never heard that question before. Why?
Can you give us some history of the Jeep?
Does it need of this?
It should be rust resistant for ever in the south.
Did it come from the North?
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 12, 2014, 08:39:42 PM
Well first I stuck my finger in the hole in the frame it, & I found a lot of dirt and sand . The previous owner hunted with it in Texas and that's how I think all the dirt and sand got in there. I'm not sure if it is it's a big deal or not I'm just trying to be cautious,Last question, does anyone know how to clean the inside of the frame? I am finding a lot of dirt and sand in there.
Never heard that question before. Why?
Can you give us some history of the Jeep?
Does it need of this?
It should be rust resistant for ever in the south.
Did it come from the North?
Post by: clark123456 on December 12, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
- Torg
Post by: DOUG on December 12, 2014, 09:04:59 PM
And you're going to want to do a few mud holes an creek crossings with us in a couple of years and its going to get in there then too.
Post by: gint2 on December 12, 2014, 11:26:43 PM
Here is a tip, for easy masking of your body mounts and brake lines, use tin foil. it allows you to wrap the part and no tape is needed. It is also good for odd shaped parts and conforms to any shape.
Post by: 94xjsport94 on December 13, 2014, 01:34:33 AM
Post by: DOUG on December 13, 2014, 06:49:25 AM
Post by: Grant.Monty on December 13, 2014, 07:36:05 AM
Post by: gint2 on December 13, 2014, 09:25:21 AM
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Post by: Grant.Monty on December 13, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
How much is a quart of the KBS vs Por15?I was looking at the whole kit that includes everything, but kbs is $10 cheaper than por15
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From what it sounds like, not many people coat there frames with anything.
Post by: gint2 on December 13, 2014, 05:30:49 PM
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