Post by: tjsahara00 on December 12, 2017, 02:38:20 AM
Walther Creed $299 at Cherokee Gun and Pawn
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Post by: Big Dave on December 12, 2017, 05:25:20 AM
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 12, 2017, 05:38:52 AM
Post by: Krawler00 on December 12, 2017, 10:54:32 AM
Post by: BigMike on December 12, 2017, 09:10:57 PM
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 29, 2017, 04:10:47 PM
So went home down across pasture and creek.
Put 4 magizines thru the Walther....damn that
gun shoots good. Shot another magizine thru
the Glock 19 and then a magizine thru my
Taurus G2..... Might be a little early to state for
a fact but....... The Walther Creed may feel and
shoot better than the Glock (to me)
This might take a lot more testing...LOL
Post by: clark123456 on December 29, 2017, 06:41:27 PM
Went by the range....to long waiting list.Kevin, are those guns in 99% of good shooting guns, and your trying to close the gap to 100%?
So went home down across pasture and creek.
Put 4 magizines thru the Walther....damn that
gun shoots good. Shot another magizine thru
the Glock 19 and then a magizine thru my
Taurus G2..... Might be a little early to state for
a fact but....... The Walther Creed may feel and
shoot better than the Glock (to me)
This might take a lot more testing...LOL
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 29, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
still figuring out what works best for me....The Ruger LC9s was compact
and I suffered the thumb knucle hit which I found out is common on Rugers.
The Taurus PT 809 I thought was to big and bulky to carry.
The Taurus 740 slim was a compact that seemed to small. The Taurus G2
I like and carried until I bought the Glock at a really good price. Now trying
the Walther Creed....lots of good reviews and a good price. Still just a rookie
learning.....
Post by: clark123456 on December 29, 2017, 10:30:21 PM
I've only been shooting a couple years now. Went thru several handguns,Thanks. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a gun purchase, and I was thinking I would go with a Glock, since they are supposedly easy to maintain, flawless functionally, and readily available. I haven't gotten to the point of understanding their numbering system, so maybe I'm not too terribly close to getting one.
still figuring out what works best for me....The Ruger LC9s was compact
and I suffered the thumb knucle hit which I found out is common on Rugers.
The Taurus PT 809 I thought was to big and bulky to carry.
The Taurus 740 slim was a compact that seemed to small. The Taurus G2
I like and carried until I bought the Glock at a really good price. Now trying
the Walther Creed....lots of good reviews and a good price. Still just a rookie
learning.....
I probably wouldn't carry it on my person, only in the car and at home, so from past experience I want a full grip, or the extended clip for the pinkie if I get a smaller gun.
To be honest, I'm concerned about the cost of a gun hobby, and my hot head getting me into trouble on the road if I have one. I'll take the safety course, and practice a bunch, of course. But it's a lot of responsibility, which I despise knowingly accepting!
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Post by: Big Dave on December 29, 2017, 10:48:19 PM
Post by: tjsahara00 on December 29, 2017, 10:52:56 PM
you rent handguns to acutally try instead of decided after
you buy like I have.
Post by: Big Dave on December 29, 2017, 10:56:01 PM
Post by: 06ljrubby on December 30, 2017, 07:24:48 AM
Post by: clark123456 on December 30, 2017, 07:53:16 AM
Wow! So you you DO lean towards the "dark" side. Very comforting to hear.I am pro gun, and pro gun control.
I don't believe in the slippery slope as a long term goal by everyone who wants additional gun control, but I can see where gun control could get out off hand through attempts too address many different situations over time. As long as citizens are willing to let their fellow citizens die unnecessary deaths, I don't really care. I don't go where guns are primarily used to kill other citizens (churches, concerts, movie theaters, or schools) on a routine basis; if I did go to those locations, and it happens, then it's my time to go.
The fact you can't own fully automatic guns as a civilian without special permission is gun control to me.
I don't buy the "I am going to stop a tyrannical government with my Glock, or AK, or AR" position, because the overwhelming force of our government's military power will crush you.
I don't buy, "the government will use a list of gun owners to go round up guns" position...if they do that, they have no problem breaking the fourth amendment and just doing search and seizure tactics.
I don't buy the, "I need my AR to go animal hunting" position. Yes, it's a gun and can be used to hunt (I've seen Ben's pictures), but animal hunting existed long before the AR.
Oh well, keep stocking up...I hope some of my mutual funds have gun companies in them. ;)
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Post by: clark123456 on December 30, 2017, 07:55:33 AM
Clark I would recommend going somewhere that will letYeah, I did that several years ago, and backed away since I wasn't sure I was responsible enough. I'll probably with comparing a few, and go from there.
you rent handguns to acutally try instead of decided after
you buy like I have.
Thanks for the advice.
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Post by: jc79 on December 30, 2017, 01:56:50 PM
Wow! So you you DO lean towards the "dark" side. Very comforting to hear.I am pro gun, and pro gun control.
I don't believe in the slippery slope as a long term goal by everyone who wants additional gun control, but I can see where gun control could get out off hand through attempts too address many different situations over time. As long as citizens are willing to let their fellow citizens die unnecessary deaths, I don't really care. I don't go where guns are primarily used to kill other citizens (churches, concerts, movie theaters, or schools) on a routine basis; if I did go to those locations, and it happens, then it's my time to go.
The fact you can't own fully automatic guns as a civilian without special permission is gun control to me.
I don't buy the "I am going to stop a tyrannical government with my Glock, or AK, or AR" position, because the overwhelming force of our government's military power will crush you.
I don't buy, "the government will use a list of gun owners to go round up guns" position...if they do that, they have no problem breaking the fourth amendment and just doing search and seizure tactics.
I don't buy the, "I need my AR to go animal hunting" position. Yes, it's a gun and can be used to hunt (I've seen Ben's pictures), but animal hunting existed long before the AR.
Oh well, keep stocking up...I hope some of my mutual funds have gun companies in them. ;)
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I own guns and still generally agree with all of this.
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Post by: BigMike on December 30, 2017, 03:26:35 PM
Wow! So you you DO lean towards the "dark" side. Very comforting to hear.I am pro gun, and pro gun control.
I don't believe in the slippery slope as a long term goal by everyone who wants additional gun control, but I can see where gun control could get out off hand through attempts too address many different situations over time. As long as citizens are willing to let their fellow citizens die unnecessary deaths, I don't really care. I don't go where guns are primarily used to kill other citizens (churches, concerts, movie theaters, or schools) on a routine basis; if I did go to those locations, and it happens, then it's my time to go.
The fact you can't own fully automatic guns as a civilian without special permission is gun control to me.
I don't buy the "I am going to stop a tyrannical government with my Glock, or AK, or AR" position, because the overwhelming force of our government's military power will crush you.
I don't buy, "the government will use a list of gun owners to go round up guns" position...if they do that, they have no problem breaking the fourth amendment and just doing search and seizure tactics.
I don't buy the, "I need my AR to go animal hunting" position. Yes, it's a gun and can be used to hunt (I've seen Ben's pictures), but animal hunting existed long before the AR.
Oh well, keep stocking up...I hope some of my mutual funds have gun companies in them. ;)
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It is not illegal to own a fully automatic weapon, you just need the correct license. But still gun control.
As far as the things you "don't buy", that is your choice and opinion which should not infringe upon my Constitutional Rights. Your fear, feelings, comprehension doesn't trump my rights.
The AR/AK or any other gun isn't the problem. Citizens have been buying semi automatic rifles long before the AR came along. The entire argument about gun control is ridiculous. There are so many tools that kill people each year and the only one the Left wants to control is guns.
I'll keep my guns, rights, and continue to carry everywhere and go about my life without a worry about some crazy person that might kill me with their gun.
Happy New Year and prosperous 2018!
Post by: clark123456 on December 30, 2017, 03:35:11 PM
I hope you are near me if I ever need protection in public!Wow! So you you DO lean towards the "dark" side. Very comforting to hear.I am pro gun, and pro gun control.
I don't believe in the slippery slope as a long term goal by everyone who wants additional gun control, but I can see where gun control could get out off hand through attempts too address many different situations over time. As long as citizens are willing to let their fellow citizens die unnecessary deaths, I don't really care. I don't go where guns are primarily used to kill other citizens (churches, concerts, movie theaters, or schools) on a routine basis; if I did go to those locations, and it happens, then it's my time to go.
The fact you can't own fully automatic guns as a civilian without special permission is gun control to me.
I don't buy the "I am going to stop a tyrannical government with my Glock, or AK, or AR" position, because the overwhelming force of our government's military power will crush you.
I don't buy, "the government will use a list of gun owners to go round up guns" position...if they do that, they have no problem breaking the fourth amendment and just doing search and seizure tactics.
I don't buy the, "I need my AR to go animal hunting" position. Yes, it's a gun and can be used to hunt (I've seen Ben's pictures), but animal hunting existed long before the AR.
Oh well, keep stocking up...I hope some of my mutual funds have gun companies in them. ;)
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It is not illegal to own a fully automatic weapon, you just need the correct license. But still gun control.
As far as the things you "don't buy", that is your choice and opinion which should not infringe upon my Constitutional Rights. Your fear, feelings, comprehension doesn't trump my rights.
The AR/AK or any other gun isn't the problem. Citizens have been buying semi automatic rifles long before the AR came along. The entire argument about gun control is ridiculous. There are so many tools that kill people each year and the only one the Left wants to control is guns.
I'll keep my guns, rights, and continue to carry everywhere and go about my life without a worry about some crazy person that might kill me with their gun.
Happy New Year and prosperous 2018!
The right to bear arms is loose, so there can be gun control without infringing on your right to bear arms. If I were someone who liked to be argumentative, which obviously I am not, I would argue that you can own as many muskets as you desire, but nothing else, and your rights haven't been infringed upon. I doubt that will happen, but it could. Of course, a bit more far fetched, there could be a time when they repeal the second amendment.
True, have a prosperous 2018, if possible under the current regime! Happy New Year, Mike.
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Post by: jd30005 on January 01, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
Also, it’s a magazine (not a clip).
Post by: patman on January 01, 2018, 03:38:46 PM
The right to bear arms is loose
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Post by: clark123456 on January 01, 2018, 04:07:52 PM
Lol
The right to bear arms is loose
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Post by: clark123456 on January 20, 2019, 07:01:42 AM
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/laraway-perkins-unlicensed-gun-dealing-washington-dc-invs/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
I love these two paragraphs:
Brooks said Laraway was blindsided by the result of selling guns to Perkins.
"There's no way for him to foresee this was going to happen," the lawyer said.
Post by: TravisMac on January 20, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
Welcome to shoot it if it’s on your list.
Post by: BigPrince on January 20, 2019, 09:33:56 AM
The rules seemed to apply this duo:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/laraway-perkins-unlicensed-gun-dealing-washington-dc-invs/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
I love these two paragraphs:
Brooks said Laraway was blindsided by the result of selling guns to Perkins.
"There's no way for him to foresee this was going to happen," the lawyer said.
That's horrible!! We need laws to stop this!!! We need common sense gun laws!!!!
....wait.... these guys were already breaking the law... there are laws already to stop this?....
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Reads about as well as this article:
http://www.mit.edu/activities/safe/humor/library.porn
Quote
Subject: Houston Comical Slams Public Libraries as "pornography ring"
[I saw this article by Joe Obfuscatory in today's paper. Or maybe I just made
it up. Permission to copy is granted to members of the MIT media laboratory
posting the article as a GIF file to alt.dave-barry. - Carl Kadie]
Library Porno: a card catalog away
Top-flight, tax-aided research centers also home to the sexually explicit.
Bestwury High School student Fenn Xonoj's homework was rudely interrupted by
the world's most largest pornography collection. He was minding his own
business when a copy of Playboy flew through the air, landing at his table. At
first he tried to ignore it. When that became impossible, he moved to another
table, but it followed him there. Finally he gave in and read it. To date, we
are happy to report, he has not turned into a sex pervert.
Xonoj glimspsed only part of an collection of erotic art and literature that
grows daily, offering titles such as "Lady Chatterley's Lover" and "Her". It's
supported by taxes and brought into towns by the brightest lights of higher
education. The purveyor of Fenn's surprise and Lady Chatterley's lover is a
grand undertaking called the Public Library. It is the world's most capable
research tool, but it is an equally efficient at collecting pornography.
[...]
Clear Lack High School is thinking about setting up a library. Principal Smith
worries about how to keep the students from reading magazines like Playboy and
books like "Lady Chatterley's Lover". Some of the honor students may even get
library cards from the University of Houston's library. Officials know about
the library's explicit content but they hope the honor system and the threat of
a bad grade will discourage students from exploring where they should not.
They all signed a form saying they would use the tool as intended."
[...]
Some definitions:
Public Library: A place where pornographic and other books are stored. Adult
books stores are open to the public and have books, so they too are public
libraries.
Librarian: Someone who catalogs pornography and other material.
Patron: Someone who uses pornography or other material.
[...]
In addition to all the porno stuff, our investigation discovered other
material. For example, we found an article by John Swift entitled "A Modest
Proposal" that advocates the use of babies as food! A book called "Das Kapital"
talks of violent revolutions against capitalism. Another book called "Mein
Kampf" talks of a international Jewish conspiracy. A magazine called "American
Atheist" caters to atheists.
[...]
Q: Do public libraries raise issues of academic freedom and free speech?
A: Anything you can write, publish, broadcast, or yell from the top of a
building, libraries can collect and disseminate further, faster, more
elegantly. Until this article, no one noticed.
[...]
In the final analyses, it is inevitable that public libraries will contain
expressions of ideas with which some taxpayer will disagree. Must we, thus, get
rid of the public library?
Post by: clark123456 on January 20, 2019, 10:08:37 AM
Are there really laws against private sell of guns? Limits to quantities? Known intent?The rules seemed to apply this duo:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/laraway-perkins-unlicensed-gun-dealing-washington-dc-invs/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
I love these two paragraphs:
Brooks said Laraway was blindsided by the result of selling guns to Perkins.
"There's no way for him to foresee this was going to happen," the lawyer said.
That's horrible!! We need laws to stop this!!! We need common sense gun laws!!!!
....wait.... these guys were already breaking the law... there are laws already to stop this?....
(https://media.tenor.com/images/c32f5649c3fd971207c73f0952aca336/tenor.png)
Reads about as well as this article:
http://www.mit.edu/activities/safe/humor/library.pornQuoteSubject: Houston Comical Slams Public Libraries as "pornography ring"
[I saw this article by Joe Obfuscatory in today's paper. Or maybe I just made
it up. Permission to copy is granted to members of the MIT media laboratory
posting the article as a GIF file to alt.dave-barry. - Carl Kadie]
Library Porno: a card catalog away
Top-flight, tax-aided research centers also home to the sexually explicit.
Bestwury High School student Fenn Xonoj's homework was rudely interrupted by
the world's most largest pornography collection. He was minding his own
business when a copy of Playboy flew through the air, landing at his table. At
first he tried to ignore it. When that became impossible, he moved to another
table, but it followed him there. Finally he gave in and read it. To date, we
are happy to report, he has not turned into a sex pervert.
Xonoj glimspsed only part of an collection of erotic art and literature that
grows daily, offering titles such as "Lady Chatterley's Lover" and "Her". It's
supported by taxes and brought into towns by the brightest lights of higher
education. The purveyor of Fenn's surprise and Lady Chatterley's lover is a
grand undertaking called the Public Library. It is the world's most capable
research tool, but it is an equally efficient at collecting pornography.
[...]
Clear Lack High School is thinking about setting up a library. Principal Smith
worries about how to keep the students from reading magazines like Playboy and
books like "Lady Chatterley's Lover". Some of the honor students may even get
library cards from the University of Houston's library. Officials know about
the library's explicit content but they hope the honor system and the threat of
a bad grade will discourage students from exploring where they should not.
They all signed a form saying they would use the tool as intended."
[...]
Some definitions:
Public Library: A place where pornographic and other books are stored. Adult
books stores are open to the public and have books, so they too are public
libraries.
Librarian: Someone who catalogs pornography and other material.
Patron: Someone who uses pornography or other material.
[...]
In addition to all the porno stuff, our investigation discovered other
material. For example, we found an article by John Swift entitled "A Modest
Proposal" that advocates the use of babies as food! A book called "Das Kapital"
talks of violent revolutions against capitalism. Another book called "Mein
Kampf" talks of a international Jewish conspiracy. A magazine called "American
Atheist" caters to atheists.
[...]
Q: Do public libraries raise issues of academic freedom and free speech?
A: Anything you can write, publish, broadcast, or yell from the top of a
building, libraries can collect and disseminate further, faster, more
elegantly. Until this article, no one noticed.
[...]
In the final analyses, it is inevitable that public libraries will contain
expressions of ideas with which some taxpayer will disagree. Must we, thus, get
rid of the public library?
Evidently I am too stupid to understand that article's association to selling a gun and buying another gun. Don, can you explain the association to me?
Post by: BigPrince on January 20, 2019, 10:52:22 AM
Are there really laws against private sell of guns? Limits to quantities? Known intent?
Evidently I am too stupid to understand that article's association to selling a gun and buying another gun. Don, can you explain the association to me?
Straw purchase is against both federal and state law:
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2015/title-16/chapter-11/article-4/part-1/section-16-11-113/
If you're asking about the article I posted, it is in response to the one you posted and is an analogous example of how the a writer can sensationalize and focus the topic. The article you posted is written as such(normal CNN anti-gun). Plus it's kinda funny. I must have missed the playboys in the library when I was a kid.
and if we were to get back to the original topic - I would suggest "You keep one you buy one".
Post by: clark123456 on January 20, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
Interesting, I didn't find it to be anti-gun at all. I thought it was by the facts. Dude bought guns legally, sold them to others without background checks, guns he sold were used in criminal activity, and he's screwed for a long time. Greed knows no bounds.Are there really laws against private sell of guns? Limits to quantities? Known intent?
Evidently I am too stupid to understand that article's association to selling a gun and buying another gun. Don, can you explain the association to me?
Straw purchase is against both federal and state law:
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2015/title-16/chapter-11/article-4/part-1/section-16-11-113/
If you're asking about the article I posted, it is in response to the one you posted and is an analogous example of how the a writer can sensationalize and focus the topic. The article you posted is written as such(normal CNN anti-gun). Plus it's kinda funny. I must have missed the playboys in the library when I was a kid.
I only found two posts about that story in a quick Google search.
Yeah, I missed the porn in the library too...but I missed a lot of the library ;)
Post by: BigPrince on January 20, 2019, 11:23:26 AM
Interesting, I didn't find it to be anti-gun at all. I thought it was by the facts. Dude bought guns legally, sold them to others without background checks, guns he sold were used in criminal activity, and he's screwed for a long time. Greed knows no bounds.
Yeah, I missed the porn in the library too...but I missed a lot of the library ;)
Your synopsis is better than the article. Those guys didn't "team up" like a boy band or superhero group. One dude bought a bunch of guns with specific intent to sell illegally to those who couldn't buy them normally. A criminal bought them and resold them. Both were prosecuted and are in jail or served their time.
Post by: clark123456 on January 20, 2019, 12:37:25 PM
I think the dude that bought them to resell is out of jail, working as a gas station store manager. He used to essentially have your level of income and similar clearance.Interesting, I didn't find it to be anti-gun at all. I thought it was by the facts. Dude bought guns legally, sold them to others without background checks, guns he sold were used in criminal activity, and he's screwed for a long time. Greed knows no bounds.
Yeah, I missed the porn in the library too...but I missed a lot of the library ;)
Your synopsis is better than the article. Those guys didn't "team up" like a boy band or superhero group. One dude bought a bunch of guns with specific intent to sell illegally to those who couldn't buy them normally. A criminal bought them and resold them. Both are now in jail.
I am just amazed that he made less than $100k doing that activity...not worth it. The story says the bad guy gave him $37k in his account, so I padded it some.
Post by: BigPrince on January 20, 2019, 12:53:00 PM
I think the dude that bought them to resell is out of jail, working as a gas station store manager. He used to essentially have your level of income and similar clearance.Interesting, I didn't find it to be anti-gun at all. I thought it was by the facts. Dude bought guns legally, sold them to others without background checks, guns he sold were used in criminal activity, and he's screwed for a long time. Greed knows no bounds.
Yeah, I missed the porn in the library too...but I missed a lot of the library ;)
Your synopsis is better than the article. Those guys didn't "team up" like a boy band or superhero group. One dude bought a bunch of guns with specific intent to sell illegally to those who couldn't buy them normally. A criminal bought them and resold them. Both are now in jail.
I am just amazed that he made less than $100k doing that activity...not worth it. The story says the bad guy gave him $37k in his account, so I padded it some.
Ouch. I make more, you know I have to do so to pay for this hobby.
Post by: clark123456 on January 20, 2019, 01:00:25 PM
No, I meant his government gig was likely close to what you make, before he got caught. I wasn't digging on you, I know you're highly paid.I think the dude that bought them to resell is out of jail, working as a gas station store manager. He used to essentially have your level of income and similar clearance.Interesting, I didn't find it to be anti-gun at all. I thought it was by the facts. Dude bought guns legally, sold them to others without background checks, guns he sold were used in criminal activity, and he's screwed for a long time. Greed knows no bounds.
Yeah, I missed the porn in the library too...but I missed a lot of the library ;)
Your synopsis is better than the article. Those guys didn't "team up" like a boy band or superhero group. One dude bought a bunch of guns with specific intent to sell illegally to those who couldn't buy them normally. A criminal bought them and resold them. Both are now in jail.
I am just amazed that he made less than $100k doing that activity...not worth it. The story says the bad guy gave him $37k in his account, so I padded it some.
Ouch. I make more, you know I have to do so to pay for this hobby.
Post by: BigPrince on January 20, 2019, 01:09:51 PM
No, I meant his government gig was likely close to what you make, before he got caught. I wasn't digging on you, I know you're highly paid.I think the dude that bought them to resell is out of jail, working as a gas station store manager. He used to essentially have your level of income and similar clearance.Interesting, I didn't find it to be anti-gun at all. I thought it was by the facts. Dude bought guns legally, sold them to others without background checks, guns he sold were used in criminal activity, and he's screwed for a long time. Greed knows no bounds.
Yeah, I missed the porn in the library too...but I missed a lot of the library ;)
Your synopsis is better than the article. Those guys didn't "team up" like a boy band or superhero group. One dude bought a bunch of guns with specific intent to sell illegally to those who couldn't buy them normally. A criminal bought them and resold them. Both are now in jail.
I am just amazed that he made less than $100k doing that activity...not worth it. The story says the bad guy gave him $37k in his account, so I padded it some.
Ouch. I make more, you know I have to do so to pay for this hobby.
Feds don’t make that much.