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Title: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on January 04, 2017, 10:41:32 PM
Post up pics of your creations and methods.


This is a topic that is regularly posted on BGE FB groups with plenty of variations. It's actually a little intimidating.

1st attempt at pizza:
Was about two years ago and haven't tried since (until tonight) I was still new to the egg and made several mistakes. Hopefully I can help others avoid those same mistakes.

First mistake, I didn't completely clean out the ash. You need very high heat. I was struggling to get it steady over 400. Platesetter and stone definitely make it tougher.  I was forcing air through it with a blow dryer to boost the heat, but it would not maintain it. 

Next, I used a basic pizza stone that we had. Apparently that's a no no. Most of those aren't made to withstand high heat. I was lucky mine didn't crack.

The dough. Plenty to learn and I'm sure there are plenty of good options. I used publix fresh dough. I read some opinions and theories on theirs after the fact.

The actual space between the stone and platesetter is important for crust, bottom, and topping to all be cooked evenly. I knew none of this and I think had the pizza stone on top of the platesetter.

Lastly, I didn't let the temp hold steady long enough before blowing clear smoke. This led to smoky tasting pizza.

Overall the pizzas cooked okay temp wise, but were smoky tasting. Kids didn't like them. We thought they were okay.

2nd attempt was tonight.  They were awesome! Kids said maybe top two or three of all time for them. I don't know about that, but they were definitely up there!

Adjustments/notes

Cleaned the Egg completely. Loaded the firebox and used the kick ash basket.  Let it get to 550 steady and actually had to hold it down to keep it there

New tools used: new pizza stone, adjustable grate (homemade for $13 at HD)

Proper set up this time, but will maybe lower pizza a little more next time. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170105/01773d9a80b3b1f3264863aa577151fe.jpg)

I was told buying dough from mellow mushroom was a solid route. Great ingredients that cook well on the egg. Unfortunately, roswell MM said they wouldn't sell just dough. Turns out Allessios would, so bought theirs. It was awesome!

Not sure what I'm missing, but I'm sure I left some details out.

Finished result. Looks good, tasted better.  Crust was awesome on the bottom. Ends had some burnt spots, but barely (due to a pizza formed a little too big for the stone.) Garlic, mushroom, artichoke under the cheese. Pepperoni on top. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170105/3aa5e35a6eb28c81d861457ea92d13f3.jpg)



Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: BeerIAm on January 04, 2017, 10:55:24 PM
Nice dude!  I've cooked a few pizzas on the grill and they usually turn out pretty good.  Not top 3 style but way better than oven baked.  I haven't really done anything special just basic stuff.  I did it with the platesetter legs up and normal grate with a BGE pizza stone on top.  It's typically turned out better when I let the stone heat up before I throw the dough on.  My biggest problem is my pizza spatula is metal and I end up putting to much flour on it to get the pizza to slide off into the stone easier and I end up with a lot of flour on the bottom of the crust.  What do you use to get the pizza from kitchen to grill?

Also what did you hear about Publix dough?  That's what I've been using.
Title: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on January 04, 2017, 11:27:34 PM
Good questions. Parchment paper makes the transfer really easy. You can cook the pizza on the paper (Not wax paper). I have two pizza spatulas. I made the pizzas on parchment paper on top of my wooden spatula and slide both paper and pizza onto the stone. Then used a thin metal pizza spatula to pull it off. 

Forgot to add that I turned the pizza a quarter to half turn after a few minutes.

Something about sugar in the publix dough. Cooks too fast at high heat. I don't remember what else. Hey if it works, who cares?
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on January 04, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
Also, I'm sure I still have plenty more to learn. I want to get it perfect.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: jc79 on January 04, 2017, 11:28:22 PM
Edit:  You beat me to it Jay!

I'll keep this short and sweet.  Get yourself some parchment paper... NOT wax paper.  Cut out some circles a little smaller than your pizza stone before you start preparing the pizzas.  Build the pizza directly on the paper and then move it to the BGE that way... the worst case is that the paper gets hot and burns a little around the edges. 

This ensures that you never have the pizza stick to your counter, or the pizza peel, or the stone.  I had too many do this, and corn meal never worked reliably.  Parchment paper is the real deal!

That pizza looks awesome by the way.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: BeerIAm on January 05, 2017, 12:26:13 AM
Parchment paper it is!!!!  And I'm totally open to trying some other dough.  The Publix one is just convenient and bakes up thicker than I like.  Could be me too but felt I was rolling it pretty thin.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Mortalis5509 on January 05, 2017, 01:46:56 AM
I have probably 12 on mine now. Usually around 700 - 800 degrees high in the dome. I leave the lid up and bottom wide open. After the entire bottom is good and hot with complete fire, I close it and make sure there is no restriction through the top. Not paying attention I've gotten the grill over 1000 degrees.

I use publix pizza does because mellow isn't close to me. I put that metal plate you see in the picture below on the grate and the stone on top of that. All that round plate is, is another large thing that holds the lump in the bottom. I use it for the catch pan as well.

I use parchment paper just a little bigger than the pizza but not a lot because it will char. About half way through I pull the parchment paper out as the dough starts to firm so it can brown. Done in 7-8 once it's on.

*** I didn't use butter on the pizza crust edge so that's why mine isnt golden brown. ***

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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Mortalis5509 on January 05, 2017, 01:48:55 AM
Edit:  You beat me to it Jay!

I'll keep this short and sweet.  Get yourself some parchment paper... NOT wax paper.  Cut out some circles a little smaller than your pizza stone before you start preparing the pizzas.  Build the pizza directly on the paper and then move it to the BGE that way... the worst case is that the paper gets hot and burns a little around the edges. 

This ensures that you never have the pizza stick to your counter, or the pizza peel, or the stone.  I had too many do this, and corn meal never worked reliably.  Parchment paper is the real deal!

That pizza looks awesome by the way.
Use flower on the counter, easier. I put flower down then the blob of dough of top and start working the pizza dough.

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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: BigMike on January 05, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
I want to start cooking pizzas on the grill.  I want to find a whole wheat pizza dough recipe. 
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: jc79 on January 05, 2017, 11:28:26 AM
I've used flour and cornmeal.  They mostly work, but when they don't its crazy frustrating.  And the flour can burn pretty easily on the stone and leave a really bad taste on the pizza... parchment paper FTW.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Mortalis5509 on January 05, 2017, 11:55:50 AM
I've used flour and cornmeal.  They mostly work, but when they don't its crazy frustrating.  And the flour can burn pretty easily on the stone and leave a really bad taste on the pizza... parchment paper FTW.
I don't use flower in excessive amount. I haven't had it burn. Dough is usually tack enough it absorbs all the flower and now is smooth.

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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Jeepster1407 on January 05, 2017, 12:18:18 PM
Man that looks awesome!


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: clark123456 on January 05, 2017, 12:53:21 PM
Jray's pepperoni alignment makes me think of Sleeping with the Enemy...crazy person there.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on January 05, 2017, 02:12:29 PM
Jray's pepperoni alignment makes me think of Sleeping with the Enemy...crazy person there.

You hit the nail on the head! My wife did the ingredients!!  Haha
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on May 29, 2017, 10:06:44 PM
Another solid pizza night. Smoked jalapeņo and bacon to use for ingredients. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/22d6f504c90a6822166b50e7e4c1076e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/7979ef654322b2ea1a0de2f09c459ddf.jpg)
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Jango on May 29, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
Looks Delicious!
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Greysducky on May 29, 2017, 10:25:03 PM
Nice job guys they all look amazing!
   All the times I've made pizza my favorite thing to use on the counter is corn meal and it leaves a nice taste on the crust not sure if the high temps of the egg would mess with it though. The crust comes off the counter well and the peel is real easy to slide under it when done because it seems to lift the crust a bit.


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: patman on May 30, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Nice job guys they all look amazing!
   All the times I've made pizza my favorite thing to use on the counter is corn meal and it leaves a nice taste on the crust not sure if the high temps of the egg would mess with it though. The crust comes off the counter well and the peel is real easy to slide under it when done because it seems to lift the crust a bit.


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I used to make pizzas for a bar while in college. We always used cornmeal
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on May 30, 2017, 09:39:34 AM
I actually had the cornmeal out, but didn't use it. The parchment paper makes it really easy! Crust was perfect
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Mortalis5509 on May 30, 2017, 10:12:38 AM
Another solid pizza night. Smoked jalapeņo and bacon to use for ingredients. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/22d6f504c90a6822166b50e7e4c1076e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/7979ef654322b2ea1a0de2f09c459ddf.jpg)
Why not direct heat? Just wondering as I do mine that way and I don't burn the crust.

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Title: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on May 30, 2017, 10:14:28 AM
Another solid pizza night. Smoked jalapeņo and bacon to use for ingredients. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/22d6f504c90a6822166b50e7e4c1076e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/7979ef654322b2ea1a0de2f09c459ddf.jpg)
Why not direct heat? Just wondering as I do mine that way and I don't burn the crust.

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Without a stone at all? I feel like the top would not get cooked.  I'm willing to try it out, but it's hard to change it up too much after getting such good results
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: kvom on May 30, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
Not as fancy as the BGE, but recently we tried making pizza at home using flatbread for crust.  Less than 15 minutes total start to finish including 7-10 minutes in the oven, and the crust is thin and crisp, my preference.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Mortalis5509 on May 30, 2017, 11:08:05 AM
Another solid pizza night. Smoked jalapeņo and bacon to use for ingredients. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/22d6f504c90a6822166b50e7e4c1076e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/7979ef654322b2ea1a0de2f09c459ddf.jpg)
Why not direct heat? Just wondering as I do mine that way and I don't burn the crust.

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Without a stone at all? I feel like the top would not get cooked.  I'm willing to try it out, but haven't tried it.
I use the pizza stone but not your diverter underneath it.

Another factor that may help me is I also cook them higher in the dome. I use this place rack system: https://ceramicgrillstore.com/collections/bge-large

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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Greysducky on May 30, 2017, 11:09:23 PM
So who's cooking pizza for our next ride, I'll come over and help load the egg on a trailer to bring with you. You supply the trailer I'll supply all the ingredients.


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: patman on May 31, 2017, 08:52:54 AM
So who's cooking pizza for our next ride, I'll come over and help load the egg on a trailer to bring with you. You supply the trailer I'll supply all the ingredients.


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@Raisinhead should mount his egg to his traile..... wait, nevermind
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on May 31, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
So who's cooking pizza for our next ride, I'll come over and help load the egg on a trailer to bring with you. You supply the trailer I'll supply all the ingredients.


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@Raisinhead should mount one of his eggs to his traile..... wait, nevermind

Fify

Sometimes you have to go home early to go big later.

I am torn with my decision. I have about $5k to spend.  Do I get a trailer or 11 jeeps like yours?
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: patman on May 31, 2017, 09:33:00 AM
So who's cooking pizza for our next ride, I'll come over and help load the egg on a trailer to bring with you. You supply the trailer I'll supply all the ingredients.


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@Raisinhead should mount one of his eggs to his traile..... wait, nevermind

Fify

Sometimes you have to go home early to go big later.

I am torn with my decision. I have about $5k to spend.  Do I get a trailer or 11 jeeps like yours?
With 5k you can get a baker's dozen
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on May 31, 2017, 09:33:36 AM
So who's cooking pizza for our next ride, I'll come over and help load the egg on a trailer to bring with you. You supply the trailer I'll supply all the ingredients.


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@Raisinhead should mount one of his eggs to his traile..... wait, nevermind

Fify

Sometimes you have to go home early to go big later.

I am torn with my decision. I have about $5k to spend.  Do I get a trailer or 11 jeeps like yours?
With 5k you can get a baker's dozen

Well played sir
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Greysducky on May 31, 2017, 10:45:10 PM
Dude if you showed your set up I don't think you would of got any crap. Double eggs and a full outdoor kitchen. WOW!


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: flashover101 on June 09, 2017, 06:13:54 PM
Big Green Egg, Terrapin and Ribs! Can't beat it!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/81568073324fe277de2ed0bcabc9588b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/ffe64f4cbbd680ea24e150082d1ca06f.jpg)


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: flashover101 on June 09, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Grab a plate my friend...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/8940882e06815c8032e9cc39c96207dd.jpg)


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: tcdawg on June 09, 2017, 09:14:53 PM
Big Green Egg, Terrapin and Ribs! Can't beat it!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/81568073324fe277de2ed0bcabc9588b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/ffe64f4cbbd680ea24e150082d1ca06f.jpg)


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Go Dogs!
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: flashover101 on June 12, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
Big Green Egg, Terrapin and Ribs! Can't beat it!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/81568073324fe277de2ed0bcabc9588b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/ffe64f4cbbd680ea24e150082d1ca06f.jpg)


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Go Dogs!
Looking for a GREAT season!


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on June 19, 2017, 11:32:09 PM
More pizza!

For my pizza I did pulled pork (smoked 24hrs), pepperoni, goat cheese. Excellent mix

Here is a pic not long before I pulled it from the grill

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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: flashover101 on June 19, 2017, 11:42:46 PM
More pizza!

For my pizza I did pulled pork (smoked 24hrs), pepperoni, goat cheese. Excellent mix

Here is a pic not long before I pulled it from the grill

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Looks awesome! What type of dough do you use?


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Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: Raisinhead on June 19, 2017, 11:45:51 PM

Looks awesome! What type of dough do you use?


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Thanks. I cheat on the dough. I buy the dough from a local pizzeria, Allessio's. I'd like to make my own, but it's something new to learn and haven't had the motivation to tackle it yet.
Title: Re: Pizza on the BGE / ceramic grill
Post by: 8lugLJ on June 20, 2017, 10:11:24 AM
I know its not fancy BGE stuff, but it is pizza over fire.. This was done in the dutch oven a few weeks ago when we had our lil road trip to the beach. Roll out dough from the can, it was ok, nice and crisp, way too thick, i double layered it thinking it would be ok lol. Pineapple, canadian bacon, green peppers, onion, and insanely too much cheese. Beth was passed out in the RTT sickly from the night before so there was no adult supervision. It was good, but that may have been the beers too.

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