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Post by: DOUG on December 13, 2012, 11:06:57 AM
Post your questions and comments here on fees and CORE.

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Post by: DOUG on December 15, 2012, 08:26:44 AM
Post any questions here. 

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Post by: BigJerm on December 15, 2012, 10:08:15 AM
Agreed. I am sure Ben argued that you don't need 35s to wheel better than the guys on 35s and 37s


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Post by: onlygoon on December 15, 2012, 10:21:03 AM
I think te same I did at the gulches open open and along with at coal creek I will be locked but it all depends on the driver more than just having lockers and I am sure the core x group will be going on different rides as well Jair my two cents on that!!!
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Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 15, 2012, 12:54:33 PM
A capable drive depends on what a rig can do. Locker or no locker it's about the driver. Friendly reminder...skinny is on the right and that makes the rig move.

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Post by: tcdawg on December 15, 2012, 12:58:47 PM
Driver experience will be heavily weighted and very important.

Vehicle requirements are a guideline...

"Rig Capabilities will be generally 35” tires, front and rear lockers, winch, on-board tool bag and full size spare."
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Post by: onlygoon on December 15, 2012, 01:03:53 PM
Yeah I read that well I can't wait to see the rides next year ready to get mine on the trail can't wait!!!!!!!
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 15, 2012, 02:54:24 PM
I don't know but IMHO, driver skill should be definately the biggest consideration here. I really don't want to sound like im tooting my own horn here, but I think of myself as a DAMN good driver. Running 33s and open / open and holding my own all day, the level of build is only a fraction of it all. But again, thats just my oppinion.
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 15, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
Well, i still need more seat time.. IMO i need to better understand/feel my rig.  im sure several seasoned guys would agree.   i do feel i have gotten better, but I want to get more-better.. if that makes sense.

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Post by: onlygoon on December 15, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
I am in it for the fun love wheeling kent I will help ya and ride with ya
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 15, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
Guys, driver skill is a big part of it. We are in process of discussing the X and what all is involved. Ultimitely our descision will better the rides and the enjoyment factor for all. I am not one to categorize people or rigs, but this X will be more than just looking at someones skill level and rig. Trust us!
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 16, 2012, 07:41:04 AM
I am in it for the fun love wheeling kent I will help ya and ride with ya

Dito, and dito
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Post by: gint2 on December 16, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Nobody take me the wrong way... I am only asking... First off. I am joing CORE no matter what your answers are! I really enjoy wheeling with y'all. my 2 questins are:

1) I just joined in October on this year, 2 months ago, do I need to re-join again in January?

2) The fee went up from $25 to $30? (The GATR home page still says $25)

Like I said, don't take these wrong, I am in regardless.

Thanks!
AJ
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Post by: DOUG on December 16, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
Nobody take me the wrong way... I am only asking... First off. I am joing CORE no matter what your answers are! I really enjoy wheeling with y'all. my 2 questins are:

1) I just joined in October on this year, 2 months ago, do I need to re-join again in January?

2) The fee went up from $25 to $30? (The GATR home page still says $25)

Like I said, don't take these wrong, I am in regardless.

Thanks!
AJ

Thanks AJ!  We should have addressed this as well.

If you joined late in 2012,

you can pay HALF or $15 for 2013 if you don't want the GATR SWAG,

or you can pay $30 and get the GATR SWAG. 

We will fix the home page and other landing pages ASAP.  Holidays are nuts!

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Post by: RD Slyter on December 17, 2012, 04:28:53 AM
I don't know but IMHO, driver skill should be definately the biggest consideration here. I really don't want to sound like im tooting my own horn here, but I think of myself as a DAMN good driver. Running 33s and open / open and holding my own all day, the level of build is only a fraction of it all. But again, thats just my oppinion.

Having read this, I realized I made myself sound like a little baby trying to say "pick me pick me!!" So I want to clarify a bit in saying that the club is goign to do what the club wants, and I don't really think my $0.02 is going to make much of a difference when it comes right down to it anyway. I was more or less just curious as to how one makes a decision such as this, and really asside from putting an "X" next to your name, what else is invloved? I'm all down for some dudes having additional roles in the club, as it kinda spreads out the payload of the responsibility, if that's what this X thing is all about.
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Post by: DOUG on December 17, 2012, 07:05:34 AM
Ryan

I never read it that way.  It's all good.



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Post by: bjeep on December 17, 2012, 07:55:39 AM
Kinda sounds to me like it will turn in to
just a group of friends only. Oh well. Southern
tried that and look how it turned out.
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Post by: tcdawg on December 17, 2012, 09:45:22 AM

and I don't really think my $0.02 is going to make much of a difference when it comes right down to it anyway.

Comments are always welcome and appreciated.  ;D That's what makes this club worthwhile!
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 17, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
Well i like the fact that u guys are very patient with me and my wheeling.  im still learning, and its nice that u guys take the time to not talk down to me, but help me.  I know im not tricked out or
have super gears or diff's or lockers..  well i do have front lockers.. but...  3.21 gears, well.  i got to be really skilled to work with this.  and you guys do take time, even help me from doing
stupid stuff.  even if i have made some bad decisions, ur still there to trying to school me.. 

one thing i really really like about this group, everyone wants to help, no matter what kind of rig i have, i dont feel like im less cause i have a less mod rig.  which im glad.   but..  i am getting the 1.75 budget
boost, cause im sick of being so short nxt to all u guys.  lol    </LMAO/>
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Post by: onlygoon on December 17, 2012, 10:19:16 AM
This will be interesting how things will play either way I am still gonna be apart of the group I like what it stands for and enjoy the times that I have when wheeling with the group. I enjoy the sport.
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 17, 2012, 10:26:26 AM
Kinda sounds to me like it will turn in to
just a group of friends only. Oh well. Southern
tried that and look how it turned out.

This is no SJ.

Everything as far as the club and Core have stayed the same. We want to encourage our members to get more experience, join more rides, and be as active in the club as possible. X is for the most experienced members to go on a few rides that others probably will not be interested in (for example Moab).  

Our 2013 schedule looks pretty awesome so far! Can't wait for the Jan ride personally!!  {cheers2}
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Post by: onlygoon on December 17, 2012, 10:31:31 AM
What about windrock lol I love that place lmao. I enjoy the group.
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Post by: Matt on December 17, 2012, 12:18:16 PM
Kinda sounds to me like it will turn in to
just a group of friends only. Oh well. Southern
tried that and look how it turned out.

This is no SJ.

Everything as far as the club and Core have stayed the same. We want to encourage our members to get more experience, join more rides, and be as active in the club as possible. X is for the most experienced members to go on a few rides that others probably will not be interested in (for example Moab).  

Our 2013 schedule looks pretty awesome so far! Can't wait for the Jan ride personally!!  {cheers2}

Exactly. We are not taking away from CORE at all to provide the CORE X experience. This is just adding more to what we already offer. This club is active and offers lots of rides for ever skill level, this is what makes us stand apart from the others. We want people to get the most out of their experience regardless of how you enjoy the sport.
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 17, 2012, 01:36:07 PM
I agree.  i know for a fact that ppl like me, can hold ppl like Kirk or Doug or others from doing harder runs, and as much as i enjoy them helping me on the intermediate and maybe semi-hard stuff, its not
challenging for them, and they, just like me need to test their skills on much harder runs.  I see this a good for them, to keep the skill in the club, else they will go someplace else and who will lose..  ME
cause they wont be here to school me .. 

if you look at the cal. its only a few runs, in the over all idea its not much, so i think its  a good idea to try and keep our more skilled riders in the club and helping ppl like me.   {popcorn}
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Post by: Matt on December 17, 2012, 02:32:19 PM
Try to imagine that you take 2 days off from work and travel 300+ miles to ride at a new park. You do an open invite and you get one guy in a stock JK on street tires and 6 guys with much more built jeeps, skills, experience, etc. Is it fair to the those 6 guys to do easy trails all day or spend most of their time winching the one jeep? Is it fair to the one guy to be left alone to do some trails by himself or beat his jeep up trying to follow on hard trails? No its not fair to either party that spent all that money and time getting to the park. CORE-X is the solution that we have came up with to prevent this from happening. This is to provide maximum trail time for the guys that are really serious about this hobby.

If your an occasional wheeler then CORE would better suit your needs. Those rides will be larger and will be better suited to accomodate all levels of experience and builds.

If your new to the sport all together and dont know what direction you want to go, then the open rides are where you need to start.
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 17, 2012, 02:36:25 PM
Mmm..  Matt did a good job of explaining some things.    {agree}
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Post by: onlygoon on December 17, 2012, 03:12:12 PM
But still doesn't answer the fact of staff members have to invite them to the rides?? Either way I am good I enjoy what we do as a club. And I enjoy our rides I wasn't sure how a staff member was gonna choose is all what will be basis for them to decide when one can move up to the X group. I have read the guidelines I am not trying to sound whiny but just wondering all.
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Post by: onlygoon on December 17, 2012, 03:12:29 PM
And I totally agree with Matt
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 17, 2012, 03:30:41 PM
Kinda sounds to me like it will turn in to
just a group of friends only. Oh well. Southern
tried that and look how it turned out.

This is no SJ.

Everything as far as the club and Core have stayed the same. We want to encourage our members to get more experience, join more rides, and be as active in the club as possible. X is for the most experienced members to go on a few rides that others probably will not be interested in (for example Moab).  

Our 2013 schedule looks pretty awesome so far! Can't wait for the Jan ride personally!!  {cheers2}

Exactly. We are not taking away from CORE at all to provide the CORE X experience. This is just adding more to what we already offer. This club is active and offers lots of rides for ever skill level, this is what makes us stand apart from the others. We want people to get the most out of their experience regardless of how you enjoy the sport.

Well said Matt
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 17, 2012, 03:49:17 PM
   Hey my take on the Core X is this........
I've been around Matt, Ben, Doug, Tony and some of the
others for about 3 years.I've seen their rigs grow and as
they seen mine. We all went from open/open and struggling
to locked/locked, and trying shit that is crazy. There is a
difference and a trust and knowledge of each other that came
through all those trail rides.
   I hadn't been on many rides with GATR this year but I could tell
at GATR fest there was a lot of new members which is great but you
have to learn them and they have to gain the Core members trust.
When we travel say like Kentucky and do dome of those trails....well
you want people that you know and trust. 
  It's something that all of those names mention went through. I was
and still are humbled by some of those guys driving skill. 
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Post by: onlygoon on December 17, 2012, 04:15:02 PM
I agree now it makes sense I have learned a lot for Ben and Danny and this whole group and slowly growing as well
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Post by: Matt on December 17, 2012, 04:22:31 PM
If this sport is for you and you plan to do it alot, CORE X should come naturally. Dont be afraid to get dirty on some rides. If your not sure how to repair something on the trail, we encourage you to come help out and learn. Watch a spotter, see what he/she is looking for. Help out in recoveries, ride along with someone that has more experience or a larger rig. We all started at zero and have plenty to learn from each other. This is definitely not meant to be exclusive, but something that is earned. In a time where everything can be bought or is expected to be given out, its nice to get something for your dedication, experience, leadership, advice, mechanical knowledge, etc.
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Post by: BigJerm on December 17, 2012, 04:38:10 PM
Kinda sounds like what the original idea of CORE was before the idea of paying for it. A tight knit group of guys on bigger rides with rigs and skills that wouldnt hold up everyone. Then it became a status for anyone who paid into it.
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Post by: Matt on December 18, 2012, 09:26:47 AM
Kinda sounds like what the original idea of CORE was before the idea of paying for it. A tight knit group of guys on bigger rides with rigs and skills that wouldnt hold up everyone. Then it became a status for anyone who paid into it.

I think CORE has definitely shaped this club into who is serious about riding and the ones that just like to lurk. There are alot of people that are serious and enjoy the CORE experience and have shaped that into what it is (maybe not what we originally thought it would be). CORE X is gonna hone that experience for the next level of guys/gals, without taking away from CORE.
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Post by: unwantedstray on December 18, 2012, 09:32:19 AM
How will you handle CORE members who want to go on a CORE X ride? For instance; I may not make many rides a year, but when I do I want to make the big ones, Harlan, Windrock, and such. If I am not able to attend the majority of the rides, but have the skill and rig to enjoy the CORE X rides am I not able to go?
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Post by: bjeep on December 18, 2012, 09:37:09 AM
How will you handle CORE members who want to go on a CORE X ride? For instance; I may not make many rides a year, but when I do I want to make the big ones, Harlan, Windrock, and such. If I am not able to attend the majority of the rides, but have the skill and rig to enjoy the CORE X rides am I not able to go?

Exactly what I am saying. I may not make many rides.
But I have a rig that is capable. But I will not be able to attend
unless I am invited!! This is right? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Post by: Matt on December 18, 2012, 09:43:54 AM
There are several open rides on the Calendar for you to attend as well as CORE rides. So far there are only a couple X rides on the Calendar.
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Post by: jkDave on December 18, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
I'm going to throw out a suggestion, feel free to ignore it (just my $.02).  It seems there is a feeling that the 'invite only' will turn into a popularity contest.  If this is the objection, and the staff would like to establish a level of build/experience, then why not establish a set of measurable criteria to determine who makes that level.  For example, pick a difficult trail and have periodic "proving rides" to gain entrance.  Require proof of trail mechanical savvy through an administered test of some kind.  This would prevent the interpretation that acceptance could be based on anything but skill.

To be clear, I am just offering a suggestion.  If it is based on build/skill I wouldn't get in, and if it is based on popularity I wouldn't get in; so I am not trying to set up a standard I can achieve. I am only offering a different method of achieving the same goal.

Dave
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
It's seems that question is coming up a lot about popularity.  And seems that there are a lot of people wondering the same thing. I would like to know cause I enjoyed windrock and had a blast. I see there are a lot of open rides but seems the most enjoyable ones are for X members??
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 18, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Ok.  

my  .02   dave had a good suggestion, not sure how to identify the trail etc..  some ppl like me get lucky but i do like the "established set of Measurable criteria"   thats the big problem

but, part of me feels like some of that is subjective.   as you go on more rides people get a feel, some days a capable rider can have a bad day, pick a bad line, that does not mean
they should not be in the core-x.   I think there should be a measure of subjectivity, and part of me needs to have some faith that this will not become a popular contest of BF.   because
if it starts to become a group of only BF, it will fail and they will lose members.  im pretty sure its happend before with other clubs, once they start becoming a BF fest, ppl move on.

Im glad they allow ppl to talk about it.   

again, just my .02  hope i did not offend anyone, and if i did.  i will be at the nxt ride, and ill bring my boxing gloves, we can then settle it like men.   </ROCKIN/>

i also enjoyed windrock.  i will be going back.  not with the core-x  , because i dont want to hold them back, but there are tons of stuff i can do at windrock, maybe
the core can form a small group to go and that way not hold the core-x group back?  just a thought
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Post by: bjeep on December 18, 2012, 10:18:22 AM
Sounds like they can handle it. It is what it is.
Lots of other rides to attend. No need to beat a
dead horse.  {cheers2}
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 10:23:26 AM
I am with bjeep on this one.
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Post by: unwantedstray on December 18, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
There are several open rides on the Calendar for you to attend as well as CORE rides. So far there are only a couple X rides on the Calendar.

I see that. But what if there is a ride during the year that I really would like to make, and I am not a CORE X member? This means that I miss out on going with this group to the park? That does not seem right since I paid to be in a club and wheel with them.

I agree that there needs to be some kind of  grouping based on experience and skill, maybe not by putting members to a test though.  I have been around long enough to know that there are parks and trails that are more advanced than others and yes some people should probably not attend. But I think that that all of it is at the drivers descretion. To me the CORE X seems to be a popularity contest or a degraded Trail Leader.

If there are some parks that people want to attend and only invite certain people that is fine. But is should not be posted as a "Club" ride. MOAB for instance. There are only a few people that have the time and money to make that trip. Does that mean that those people are the best of the best. No not at all. I think most people in this club would love to go to MOAB at some point in time. The "Club" rides should be to parks that the majority of people can enjoy. Once at the park, groups can be assembled based on ability for the enjoyment of everyone there, at the descretion of the Trail Leaders. The trail leaders should take turns leading some of the less experienced/ less set up rigs, so that they too can enjoy the park.  Sacrifice is part of leadership.

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Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 18, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
I don't think there should be a skill level set. That's ridiculous. How else do you expect people to learn. If your not willing to help people out and learn then the off-road community isn't for you. The off-road community helps one another and teaches one another. If you want a buggy roll out (which very very few have them, then send a freaking pm). Don't exclude someone because they don't have an "x". No one on her knew everything about wheeling or wrench turning but where taught over time.
I know toward summer there is a Moab ride and it's not posted that I saw. Moab is not some "x" skill set. I have heard of stock jeeps doing a lot of it.

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Post by: tcdawg on December 18, 2012, 11:05:13 AM

Driving skills and vehicle capabilities are important.  This club now has three levels of membership which does not exclude at all, it is meant to include, help provide all with good experiences...AND allow those that want to learn and grow in the sport the ability to do so.  

We have a nice full calendar of 12 rides; 5 are open to all members, 5 are CORE member rides and two are CORE X rides.  Lots of opportunities to ride.  Don't forget, Ad-Hoc rides happen all the time too.
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Post by: Matt on December 18, 2012, 11:08:09 AM
The calendar is certainly liquid. With enough notice, if the CORE would like to see a certain park on the calendar, then just make the suggestion to the staff, if enough people want it, then we can make it happen. CORE is the life blood of the club and always will be. Let us know the parks you want on the calendars and they will be there.  

Think of it like applying for a job, you can take a test to see if you got the knowledge to do the work, but in the end it takes a real world evaluation to get the position. We are not looking for just guys with a built rig or who has the most friends. Experience, attitude, aptitude and especially capabilities will all be considered.

There are several open rides on the Calendar for you to attend as well as CORE rides. So far there are only a couple X rides on the Calendar.

I see that. But what if there is a ride during the year that I really would like to make, and I am not a CORE X member? This means that I miss out on going with this group to the park? That does not seem right since I paid to be in a club and wheel with them.

I agree that there needs to be some kind of  grouping based on experience and skill, maybe not by putting members to a test though.  I have been around long enough to know that there are parks and trails that are more advanced than others and yes some people should probably not attend. But I think that that all of it is at the drivers descretion. To me the CORE X seems to be a popularity contest or a degraded Trail Leader.

If there are some parks that people want to attend and only invite certain people that is fine. But is should not be posted as a "Club" ride. MOAB for instance. There are only a few people that have the time and money to make that trip. Does that mean that those people are the best of the best. No not at all. I think most people in this club would love to go to MOAB at some point in time. The "Club" rides should be to parks that the majority of people can enjoy. Once at the park, groups can be assembled based on ability for the enjoyment of everyone there, at the descretion of the Trail Leaders. The trail leaders should take turns leading some of the less experienced/ less set up rigs, so that they too can enjoy the park.  Sacrifice is part of leadership.


No CORE rides have been removed from the Calendar, so I don't quite understand what your saying.

X rides are additional content and they will be the tougher & further trails, not trails chosen to suit a plethora of rigs.

Buggies & some trailered rigs cannot enjoy FS rides but we still offer them even though they exclude a group of guys on here, do we not? We are catering to a specific groups needs. X is similar in this aspect.

No one is saying this group is the BEST of anything, just simply something different.
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Post by: Matt on December 18, 2012, 11:26:49 AM
I don't think there should be a skill level set. That's ridiculous. How else do you expect people to learn. If your not willing to help people out and learn then the off-road community isn't for you. The off-road community helps one another and teaches one another. If you want a buggy roll out (which very very few have them, then send a freaking pm). Don't exclude someone because they don't have an "x". No one on her knew everything about wheeling or wrench turning but where taught over time.
I know toward summer there is a Moab ride and it's not posted that I saw. Moab is not some "x" skill set. I have heard of stock jeeps doing a lot of it.

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What would be ridiculous is having a stock jeeper with little experience follow some experienced guys through Lions Den or the Gauntlet or up School Bus or put them on RBD, etc. The only thing he/she will learn is that the whole trip was a mistake, and will most likely not attend another event.

We expect people to learn on the open rides, and if they feel confident enough, then join CORE and really get out there and explore what the club has to offer. We don't expect anyone to learn on a ride that is way over their head or their rigs capabilities, that is just ignorant.

I advise you to get to know more about this club and its history. Come on some rides with us before you tell us what doesn't work here or what you perceive to be the attitude of the club. This club has levels developed to grow the drivers and their abilities. As they grow there are opportunities to get more involved within the club. We are far from exclusive and offer the most diverse experiences over any other club in the South. The other clubs have failed because they do not offer a well balanced experience for all types of riders and they are not active.  {cheers2}
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 18, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
I don't think there should be a skill level set. That's ridiculous. How else do you expect people to learn. If your not willing to help people out and learn then the off-road community isn't for you. The off-road community helps one another and teaches one another. If you want a buggy roll out (which very very few have them, then send a freaking pm). Don't exclude someone because they don't have an "x". No one on her knew everything about wheeling or wrench turning but where taught over time.
I know toward summer there is a Moab ride and it's not posted that I saw. Moab is not some "x" skill set. I have heard of stock jeeps doing a lot of it.

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What would be ridiculous is having a stock jeeper with little experience follow some experienced guys through Lions Den or the Gauntlet or up School Bus or put them on RBD, etc. The only thing he/she will learn is that the whole trip was a mistake, and will most likely not attend another event.

We expect people to learn on the open rides, and if they feel confident enough, then join CORE and really get out there and explore what the club has to offer. We don't expect anyone to learn on a ride that is way over their head or their rigs capabilities, that is just ignorant.

I advise you to get to know more about this club and its history. Come on some rides with us before you tell us what doesn't work here or what you perceive to be the attitude of the club. This club has levels developed to grow the drivers and their abilities. As they grow there are opportunities to get more involved within the club. We are far from exclusive and offer the most diverse experiences over any other club in the South. The other clubs have failed because they do not offer a well balanced experience for all types of riders and they are not active.  {cheers2}

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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 18, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
I don't think there should be a skill level set. That's ridiculous. How else do you expect people to learn. If your not willing to help people out and learn then the off-road community isn't for you. The off-road community helps one another and teaches one another. If you want a buggy roll out (which very very few have them, then send a freaking pm). Don't exclude someone because they don't have an "x". No one on her knew everything about wheeling or wrench turning but where taught over time.
I know toward summer there is a Moab ride and it's not posted that I saw. Moab is not some "x" skill set. I have heard of stock jeeps doing a lot of it.

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What would be ridiculous is having a stock jeeper with little experience follow some experienced guys through Lions Den or the Gauntlet or up School Bus or put them on RBD, etc. The only thing he/she will learn is that the whole trip was a mistake, and will most likely not attend another event.

We expect people to learn on the open rides, and if they feel confident enough, then join CORE and really get out there and explore what the club has to offer. We don't expect anyone to learn on a ride that is way over their head or their rigs capabilities, that is just ignorant.

I advise you to get to know more about this club and its history. Come on some rides with us before you tell us what doesn't work here or what you perceive to be the attitude of the club. This club has levels developed to grow the drivers and their abilities. As they grow there are opportunities to get more involved within the club. We are far from exclusive and offer the most diverse experiences over any other club in the South. The other clubs have failed because they do not offer a well balanced experience for all types of riders and they are not active.  {cheers2}

 </BEER/>

X2  </BEER/> </BEER/>

There really is nothing to complain about unless you were planning to make the Moab Utah trip and you feel like your not invited now.

I am personally looking forward to the Core rides!! They were a blast this past year!! Especially the Fathers day ride {cheers2}
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 12:21:34 PM
Always a good time.
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Post by: hox on December 18, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
i can understand both of the sides point of view ppl want to go on the hard stuff but also it is a matter of a safety concern at the same time it the same reason the club doesn't want ppl to drink on the rides there is events i could go on but it isnt really suited towards what my rig is built for. the other huge thing is there are ppl who dont no there rigs the way they should which will cause panic in those moment when u will need to know what to do that is just seat time at all the other events getting more comfortable to your rig n knowing what is goin to do. n then there is also the mechanical side u need to no ur rig n be capable of fixing the problems. sure there are others there that r down to help you thats what the sport is all about a group of ppl that r doing there passion n will help each other when it is needed. but u still need to know your own rig better than most
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 18, 2012, 01:40:52 PM
i can understand both of the sides point of view ppl want to go on the hard stuff but also it is a matter of a safety concern at the same time it the same reason the club doesn't want ppl to drink on the rides there is events i could go on but it isnt really suited towards what my rig is built for. the other huge thing is there are ppl who dont no there rigs the way they should which will cause panic in those moment when u will need to know what to do that is just seat time at all the other events getting more comfortable to your rig n knowing what is goin to do. n then there is also the mechanical side u need to no ur rig n be capable of fixing the problems. sure there are others there that r down to help you thats what the sport is all about a group of ppl that r doing there passion n will help each other when it is needed. but u still need to know your own rig better than most

 //LIKEBUTTON//
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 18, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
 {popcorn}
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Post by: lt99ls1 on December 18, 2012, 02:39:10 PM
I am sorry but I am going to hurt some feelings right now.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody told me "I can drive my open/open rig any where you can go" I would be driving a Coleworx buggy.
It is just stupid to think that a diving skill can make up all the difference for lockers front and rear, huge/sticky tires, crawl ratio, a well setup supension system and Horse power.

Please consider your fellow wheeling buddies and make sure if your following the big rigs or guys with no brains and lots of body damage and ask yourself before you go "will I hold this group up?" "will they have to drag me out of the holes and up the hills?"

I DO NOT CONSIDER myself an awesome, great or even above average driver.
I have and do ride with everybody and never tell anybody no.
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 18, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
Larry, you are my idol!  ;D I am looking forward to the day we can ride 1 time and not have to haul your butt out of trouble!  </LMAO/> We love ya Larry!
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Post by: hox on December 18, 2012, 04:12:58 PM
that is so true larry
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
I am with Larry being I am open open I think that I know my rig and I dot hole people up on the trail but I will just continue wheeling learning more and still building my rig I love what I do and I enjoy what this club stands for I have learned so much and met some really good drivers and teachers in the mix good group of guys and friends and that I enjoy ha gin out with at the end of the day.
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Post by: DOUG on December 18, 2012, 04:31:13 PM
Larry, you are my idol!  ;D I am looking forward to the day we can ride 1 time and not have to haul your butt out of trouble!  </LMAO/> We love ya Larry!

//MASTERPIECE//
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Post by: DOUG on December 18, 2012, 05:22:34 PM
I appreciate everyone's view and comments.  It's all good and I hope everyone see's it that way. 

This is the rationale behind CORE-X, and why we believe CORE-X is a good idea for GATR.

Some don’t really know that any work goes on, but GATR Staff does more than set up trail rides and read the forums.  We care about the club, and its members.  We are focused on:
- Growing club membership,
- Bringing more people to off-roading,
- Educating folks on the right places to ride and how to Tread Lightly,
- Having great social events for the families and spouses,
- Having a forum for helping any that want to take it to the next level in knowledge, experience, and rig modifications,
- Organizing and leading meaningful and safe trail rides,
- And providing the right package of events for our members.

GATR is growing, and we have an awesome group of folks that participate on our rides.  To accomplish the “growing, more off-roaders, and meaningful and safe off-road portion”, we realize that the same experience cannot be had by a stock Sahara and a locked Rubicon on 37’s on the same trail.  (Yes, I know, driver is huge)  Yet we DO mix all the rigs, stock and wild, at every ride so we can include everyone.  After the ride we hear about wasting our time on lame trails and questions about “why didn’t we hit the rocks sooner and harder?”.  All this knowing that we didn’t hit the hardest trails and the stock rigs had a blast an can’t wait to come back.  We can’t lead a stock Sahara with factory side steps on a trail that has 7-9 difficulty with 4’ ledge after 4’ ledge requiring very aggressive driving for an open rig and not expect the Dana 30 or something else to go, as well as having to stop at every obstacle the locked rigs drive up, and spot and/or winch up the unlocked rigs.  Yes, we do these things at every ride, and we are happy to help everyone!  We will continue to do this at OPEN and CORE rides. 

Once we note how important it is as a club to provide a great experience for every level, we must realize that we need more trail leaders that are ready, willing, and able to lead groups on our rides.  To find those that are capable leaders, we must identify the skill set and equipment required and recognize who they are, even though all will not choose to lead.  Some will chose to lead and serve, and are the perfect CORE-X member. We want capable leaders that can help everyone behind them.

CORE-X is not a higher level of anything except SERVICE.  The higher level means that you have MORE RESPONSIBILITY to the levels beneath you to the stockest stocker newb we have, to help, lead, spot, advise, etc.  CORE-X is for those that want to lead, and have the ability. It's about personal capabilities and having the right equipment.  CORE-X is a way to recognize the individual members that show a commitment to the sport and have the experience and equipment to lead.  CORE-X is not based on friendships and likeability; a point that Staff has discussed and all agree on. 

Some don’t realize that all of our staff members ride some trails that are not very challenging, to LEAD OTHERS that may be on their first ride, may be scared, and may find it fun and challenging.  We don’t take the trail organizing and leading lightly.  It takes time and commitment, and service to the club and it’s members.  Everyone of us spends HARD EARNED money to go ride, and we all want the same challenges, but on a GATR ride we are committed to leading and helping others.  CORE-X has 2, only 2, rides next year for the more built rigs and experienced wheelers to ride more trails and have an experience like the stockers did on the trails that were challenging for them.   Seems fair but always looking to improve everything.

Some of you have not had your first trail break yet.  Drop a driveshaft, break an axle, rip out a joint, cut a tire, bust a hose, break a ring and pinion, etc.  If you continue to wheel, it will happen.    We will be there to help you.

So please don't think we are following where other clubs have gone, or making an elite group of friends.  We want the club to grow, and we need experienced and capable leaders, and want to recognize them as such.   

We hear what you are saying and I believe we can make it even better from your comments. 

So I expect you all at every ride in 2013!   </BEER/>
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 18, 2012, 06:11:27 PM
   Hey my take on the Core X is this........
I've been around Matt, Ben, Doug, Tony and some of the
others for about 3 years.I've seen their rigs grow and as
they seen mine. We all went from open/open and struggling
to locked/locked, and trying shit that is crazy. There is a
difference and a trust and knowledge of each other that came
through all those trail rides.


Like i said earlier.......when you've been on 15 to 20 trail rides with
those guys and have moved up to 35's or up, and locked front and rear.
Everyone has watched you and and your rig grow. To me that's what
Core X would be about. It's not about popularity....cause hell I've had
disagreements with several members before, but we've been there done
that. There's is NOTHING more important than that trust when your
doing that level of wheeling......period. End of discussion!!
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Post by: jc79 on December 18, 2012, 08:09:31 PM
I'll be checking the mailbox for one of two things: 

1) my X invitation, or
2) a refund on my Moab condo deposit

:-)
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Post by: jc79 on December 18, 2012, 08:15:18 PM
In all seriousness, Larry hits on the point I've been thinking. If CORE X is going to work the way you guys have described, then GATR staff is gonna have to deliver some bad news to some good friends. Awkward at best.
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Post by: DOUG on December 18, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
I'll be checking the mailbox for one of two things:  

1) my X invitation, or
2) a refund on my Moab condo deposit

:-)

You aint using that to get out of MOAB!  Everybody is an X when in Utah.  ;D

Seriously, everybody is welcome to come to Moab.  I made it CORE-X and it shouldn't be.  My mistake.
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Post by: gint2 on December 18, 2012, 08:39:51 PM
Well I'll say a few thing that are on my mind. Can't keep me quiet that long!

1) I know my rig is built for CoreX, not sure if I am yet. With that being said, I was like one of the first to say I was in for Moab but due to some BS in my life, I can't make it this year. CoreX or not I still would have gone if I could make it.
2) I like this idea of CoreX, it gives me something to look forward to working toward or proving myself as being worthy of.
3) I know I was asked to lead a locked/locked group at Black Moose and I'm not sure if they felt they got their $$ worth with my leading. I did my best to entertain them but I will say the weather had more to do with it then me.
4) I really do understand the CoreX deal... Some time ago I took a friend of a friend to Beasley for their first ride. They guy about crapped himself and I had to drive his rig up a few hills. He never went off road again to the best of my knowledge. I feel bad but... hey he wanted to go.
5) As a CORE member, I would like to see a CORE ride to Windrock. I was scheduled to go on the last CORE ride there last month but had come crap come up again and had to bail.
6) This is just a suggestion, it sounds like Windrock is the ride that has everybody's panties in a wad.  Maybe that can be a CORE & COREX ride on the same weekend. We could separate in the day and booze it up at night.

With all that said.... y'all rock  </ROCKIN/> and I am happy to be here as a CORE or CoreX if selected. 

 {cheers2}
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 18, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
Jared you don't have to get your deposit back, I'll use it towards my room ;D

All seriousness, Jared has been one of the most improved drivers I've seen this last year and a half!! I remember the first HUGE rock garden @ (I think)  morris mountain.
Dude you've come along way!


TAPATALK II
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 18, 2012, 08:47:20 PM

Maybe that can be a CORE & COREX ride on the same weekend. We could separate in the day and booze it up at night.

 {cheers2}

Not a bad idea


TAPATALK II
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Post by: DOUG on December 18, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
5) As a CORE member, I would like to see a CORE ride to Windrock. I was scheduled to go on the last CORE ride there last month but had come crap come up again and had to bail.
6) This is just a suggestion, it sounds like Windrock is the ride that has everybody's panties in a wad.  Maybe that can be a CORE & COREX ride on the same weekend. We could separate in the day and booze it up at night.

With all that said.... y'all rock  </ROCKIN/> and I am happy to be here as a CORE or CoreX if selected. 

 {cheers2}


Thanks AJ.  We hear you and the others loud and clear.  Part of our discussion today. 

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Post by: jc79 on December 18, 2012, 08:59:57 PM
Appreciate the kind words Danny. I've enjoyed the group, and look forward to improving more in 2013!

I like that GATR is always trying to get better, too. I trust that you guys have the best interests of the group in mind...
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 09:00:22 PM
I am good with either way I enjoy wheeling even though I have not had time to go on many rides the ones I have made were awesome I will probably sit back and enjoy this new build and hopefully make it out to some rides this year.
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 09:01:14 PM
And to boot I enjoy the staff members good guys to drink with ha ha ha.
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Post by: gint2 on December 18, 2012, 09:02:50 PM
5) As a CORE member, I would like to see a CORE ride to Windrock. I was scheduled to go on the last CORE ride there last month but had come crap come up again and had to bail.
6) This is just a suggestion, it sounds like Windrock is the ride that has everybody's panties in a wad.  Maybe that can be a CORE & COREX ride on the same weekend. We could separate in the day and booze it up at night.

With all that said.... y'all rock  </ROCKIN/> and I am happy to be here as a CORE or CoreX if selected. 

 {cheers2}


Thanks AJ.  We hear you and the others loud and clear.  Part of our discussion today. 



No, THANK YOU!! Something I forgot to say. You guys, sometimes, have a thankless job. Y'all don't get paid to put up with everyones  BS and listen to people bitch and complain. You guys don't get paid to moderate the forum and keep it up and running. Hell, you guys don't get paid and you still give all this to us. So for all that...  I Thank You!
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Post by: onlygoon on December 18, 2012, 09:09:18 PM
Thank you I have learned so much
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 18, 2012, 09:39:49 PM
We try guys! Always looking forward and trying to improve the experience for everyone. We are gonna have a great 2013!
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Post by: Raisinhead on December 18, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
5) As a CORE member, I would like to see a CORE ride to Windrock. I was scheduled to go on the last CORE ride there last month but had come crap come up again and had to bail.
6) This is just a suggestion, it sounds like Windrock is the ride that has everybody's panties in a wad.  Maybe that can be a CORE & COREX ride on the same weekend. We could separate in the day and booze it up at night.

With all that said.... y'all rock  </ROCKIN/> and I am happy to be here as a CORE or CoreX if selected. 

 {cheers2}


Thanks AJ.  We hear you and the others loud and clear.  Part of our discussion today. 



No, THANK YOU!! Something I forgot to say. You guys, sometimes, have a thankless job. Y'all don't get paid to put up with everyones  BS and listen to people bitch and complain. You guys don't get paid to moderate the forum and keep it up and running. Hell, you guys don't get paid and you still give all this to us. So for all that...  I Thank You!

Well said AJ. I always enjoy myself with this group! Thanks for everything you guys do to keep this club active.

I also think core/coreX rides are a great idea. Split up for wheeling, get together for drinks, camping, and night rides in the evening.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 19, 2012, 05:33:17 AM
"I also think core/coreX rides are a great idea. Split up for wheeling, get together for drinks, camping, and night rides in the evening."


Thats really how it's been all the time on the Core rides.
Then you would start having Core mixing in with CoreX and
you would be back to where they where. That would defeat
what there trying to do for that 1 or 2 trail rides a year.
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 19, 2012, 06:35:22 AM
Been keeping quiet for a few days now observing where this is going. I do like the idea of the "X" as it was kinda what we were doing already anyway as far as splitting up the group. Perfect example was Gulches. So it really just kinda puts a name to what we already do anyway.

I don't want to sound like a 1/2 ass, but personally I don't care 1 way or the other about this CORE X thing much less being "selected" for it. 3 reasons:

1) I don't need a tag under my screen name to completely enjoy every bit of our rides. Or hanging' the friends I have here. I'm going to continue to do what I'm doing, that is to continue to build, continue to wheel, continue to develop skills, and continue to make Kent and Pops laugh their asses off with David around the fire talking about Goats.  </LMAO/>

2) I have already proved myself to, hell 90% of the club that I am a very capable driver, with a vary capable rig even if slightly less built than others. And I don't need no little X title to make it so. If the guys want me to lead, I'll lead. If someone needs a spot, I'll spot. Someone needs a little tug, I'll tug. I don't mind doing any of that for anyone. It's all part of wheeln' IMO. Just like getting the rig muddy. Sure I hate having to clean it off, but if I let mud keep me from wheeln' well.... LOL you know.

3) Finally, truth be told, I know I'm not going to be around for ever. Given the nature of my job, I'm most likely going to be leaving in a few years anyway. That said, my ultimate goal is to leave this club better than I found it. Because this club will be leaving me better than when I first got here. And you all better believe that even though I'll be somewhere else, I WILL stay in touch. Depending on where I end up, I mite even host a GATR ride for you guys or something once a year. But that's way down the road and I don't like to think that far ahead. That's my wife's job.  ;D

Bottom line is GATR is one of things that evolves constantly. As a loyal member I believe I should let it evolve, and not worry about it unless I see it going down the wrong path. Then I mite pipe in and really protest some of the decisions. Either way, whatever you guys want to do I'm down with. Not like it's going to make my tires go flat or anything.. heh heh

Besides, its about time you "Staff" guys did something worth while.  </LMAO/>  Jk  :smoke
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 19, 2012, 06:44:52 AM
Been keeping quiet for a few days now observing where this is going. I do like the idea of the "X" as it was kinda what we were doing already anyway as far as splitting up the group. Perfect example was Gulches. So it really just kinda puts a name to what we already do anyway.

I don't want to sound like a 1/2 ass, but personally I don't care 1 way or the other about this CORE X thing much less being "selected" for it. 3 reasons:

1) I don't need a tag under my screen name to completely enjoy every bit of our rides. Or hanging' the friends I have here. I'm going to continue to do what I'm doing, that is to continue to build, continue to wheel, continue to develop skills, and continue to make Kent and Pops laugh their asses off with David around the fire talking about Goats.  </LMAO/>

2) I have already proved myself to, hell 90% of the club that I am a very capable driver, with a vary capable rig even if slightly less built than others. And I don't need no little X title to make it so. If the guys want me to lead, I'll lead. If someone needs a spot, I'll spot. Someone needs a little tug, I'll tug. I don't mind doing any of that for anyone. It's all part of wheeln' IMO. Just like getting the rig muddy. Sure I hate having to clean it off, but if I let mud keep me from wheeln' well.... LOL you know.

3) Finally, truth be told, I know I'm not going to be around for ever. Given the nature of my job, I'm most likely going to be leaving in a few years anyway. That said, my ultimate goal is to leave this club better than I found it. Because this club will be leaving me better than when I first got here. And you all better believe that even though I'll be somewhere else, I WILL stay in touch. Depending on where I end up, I mite even host a GATR ride for you guys or something once a year. But that's way down the road and I don't like to think that far ahead. That's my wife's job.  ;D

Bottom line is GATR is one of things that evolves constantly. As a loyal member I believe I should let it evolve, and not worry about it unless I see it going down the wrong path. Then I mite pipe in and really protest some of the decisions. Either way, whatever you guys want to do I'm do {agree}wn with. Not like it's going to make my tires go flat or anything.. heh heh

Besides, its about time you "Staff" guys did something worth while.  </LMAO/>  Jk  :smoke

well said.    {agree}

but some times your not just 1/2 ass.   </LMAO/>  just sayen.       {popcorn}  JK   

 i followed you for like 2 hr at windrock when u went to get gas.   while we where trying to regroup.  if nothing else
i learned, u can lead, we only turned around 2 times, .   you gave a whole new meaning to.  "No Roads, No Problem!"    {first} {10}
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 19, 2012, 07:21:30 AM
LOL!! Thanks Kent.
I don't know why my guage didn't read accuratly most of the day, then all of a sudden dropped like that. Had I known I was that low on fuel I woulda' topped off that morning. Oh well, we still had a lot of fun.  </ROCKIN/>
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 19, 2012, 07:31:31 AM
LOL!! Thanks Kent.
I don't know why my guage didn't read accuratly most of the day, then all of a sudden dropped like that. Had I known I was that low on fuel I woulda' topped off that morning. Oh well, we still had a lot of fun.  </ROCKIN/>

well fyi, i now keep a 3 foot long hose on my rig because of that.  never know when gas can be an issue.  :)  it was fun, and i did get to see alot of windrock i was not expecting. 
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Post by: BigJerm on December 19, 2012, 08:37:26 AM
"I also think core/coreX rides are a great idea. Split up for wheeling, get together for drinks, camping, and night rides in the evening."


Thats really how it's been all the time on the Core rides.
Then you would start having Core mixing in with CoreX and
you would be back to where they where. That would defeat
what there trying to do for that 1 or 2 trail rides a year.

I dont think so. We use to do this every ride well before any CORE. Sometimes we would ride as a group in the morning, have lunch and split rest of the day. Always made sure there was a winch in the little group and had a rough idea of each groups plan. We did this the trip before last at Harlan when CORE first started where I led the smaller group for half a day and it worked great. Its just a matter of people wanting to split but not wanting to hurt someones feelings by saying "hey man, you dont need to be in this group for this ride, its too much for your rig/skill."
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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 19, 2012, 08:45:47 AM
"I also think core/coreX rides are a great idea. Split up for wheeling, get together for drinks, camping, and night rides in the evening."


Thats really how it's been all the time on the Core rides.
Then you would start having Core mixing in with CoreX and
you would be back to where they where. That would defeat
what there trying to do for that 1 or 2 trail rides a year.

I dont think so. We use to do this every ride well before any CORE. Sometimes we would ride as a group in the morning, have lunch and split rest of the day. Always made sure there was a winch in the little group and had a rough idea of each groups plan. We did this the trip before
last at Harlan when CORE first started where I led the smaller group for half a day and it worked great. Its just a matter of people wanting to split but not wanting to hurt someones feelings by saying "hey man, you dont need to be in this group for this ride, its too much for your rig/skill."
Thats what I meant....that is the way we always rode. Split up for the
heavy duty guys then have another group for lesser rigs. I always thought
it work good also. Then that was the whole reason I thought for Core to
begin was nobody wanted to hurt our feelings and say you shouldn't ride
with this group. Now it appears they want to try again to have some
"Hard Core" rides for the hard core guys only.

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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 19, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
The more I remember it was the Tier Levels.....
Tier level 3 is what the CoreX is basically now

"We are going to have a few Tier3 rides a year,
that will be some what fast paced, lockers needed,
and possibly body damage involved"  

Was a Quote back when all the arguing happened before.
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Post by: BigJerm on December 19, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
lol good call Kev. I forgot about the tier system. I guess just mis-read your post, sounds like we are on the same page


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Post by: tjsahara00 on December 19, 2012, 11:53:45 AM
 {salute}
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Post by: kvom on December 19, 2012, 12:15:17 PM
My take FWIW:

Most of the places we ride have trails for everybody and/or bypasses.  Parks like Gulches, Choccolocco, and MM make it very easy for either splitting up a larger group or letting different rigs try different lines.   I think lots of people like watching bigger rigs try the harder stuff.

Even at Harlan it's quite feasible to combine the tier2 and 3 rigs in most places as far as I know.  Windrock would be similar depending on the trails being attempted.

The exception is Moab, where those of us who want to do harder trails should not want to risk a near-stock vehicle going along.  That said, there's no reason why smaller rigs couldn't do their own rides on the moderate trails and socialize at night.  My feeling is that for the harder Moab trails, the minimum vehicle requirement is 35s, 2 lockers, and winch, plus some experience wheeling. 
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Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 19, 2012, 06:37:28 PM
My take FWIW:

Most of the places we ride have trails for everybody and/or bypasses.  Parks like Gulches, Choccolocco, and MM make it very easy for either splitting up a larger group or letting different rigs try different lines.   I think lots of people like watching bigger rigs try the harder stuff.

Even at Harlan it's quite feasible to combine the tier2 and 3 rigs in most places as far as I know.  Windrock would be similar depending on the trails being attempted.

The exception is Moab, where those of us who want to do harder trails should not want to risk a near-stock vehicle going along.  That said, there's no reason why smaller rigs couldn't do their own rides on the moderate trails and socialize at night.  My feeling is that for the harder Moab trails, the minimum vehicle requirement is 35s, 2 lockers, and winch, plus some experience wheeling. 


I have seen plenty of feedback where people can do a lot on 33's. Mind you they have 2 lockers and a lot of this comes from the rubicon owners forum.
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 19, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
I will chime in on Moab and what I think you need... A stock rig can do alot out there with a good set of tires. It is very sticky rock. The part that is hard is dealing with situations that do not happen here in the south. Traction, way off camber situations and extreme ledges and climbs. I did every extreme trail on 33's and 2 lockers with my old 30/ 35 combo. It can be done with great driving skill. I do not suggest someone going out there with minimal exp at all! You can have a bad a rig with no exp and get schooled by someone with a street rig! This is a ride for serious wheelers. Not a place to go 1800 miles and get totally freaked out on the first big obsticle in pritchetts canyon! There is no way around or out once you are in. But I hear alot of bashing about X and all I can say is that we heard the same thing about core when we made it. You either adapt and grow or whine and move on to "greener" pastures.
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Post by: DOUG on December 19, 2012, 07:59:21 PM
Pritchetts has gone up at least 2 levels.

Sent from my Samsung Note 2
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 19, 2012, 08:02:52 PM
So that means Iight pucker next time?! Ha ha. Best trail in the country that I have seen! Scenery, obsticles.
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Post by: DOUG on December 19, 2012, 08:28:11 PM
I think I enjoyed a trip up the bus and down guardrail just as much and it was so close.  I sure miss T.

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Post by: Krawler00 on December 19, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
Oh don't remind me. That trail was amazing. Had you puckered the last trip up... Old fart ha ha!!
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Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 19, 2012, 09:01:09 PM
I think I enjoyed a trip up the bus and down guardrail just as much and it was so close.  I sure miss T.

Sent from my Samsung Note 2

I was doing some reading the other day and read of some stuff near moab that made JV look wimpy. Know anything about the area? Just pulling up to some of the stuff was a bit fun.
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Post by: DOUG on December 19, 2012, 09:13:59 PM
I think I enjoyed a trip up the bus and down guardrail just as much and it was so close.  I sure miss T.

Sent from my Samsung Note 2

I was doing some reading the other day and read of some stuff near moab that made JV look wimpy. Know anything about the area? Just pulling up to some of the stuff was a bit fun.

Oh yeah.  Just google BFE britney Spears!
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Post by: kent10sne1 on December 20, 2012, 05:58:08 AM
Just an idea.

have u guys thought about having some of the more skilled to take up a "mentor" type position for those of us that are less skilled.   not sure how it would work or if it would, but just an idea
of a way to allow maybe core-x guys a way of passing on their skills?

anyway, maybe its stupid.   just trying to share ideas.   

also, i found/find it really helpful when more skilled ppl ride with me, or me with them on rides.   i enjoyed the several times i have ridden with most of you guys, learned alot.   and i know
its been stated here.  watch better drivers on harder runs, see how they approach things, watch and listen to the spoter... i have found out   a good spoter is priceless, even to a skilled
driver, it takes someone like me and makes them appear like they know what they are doing..  </LMAO/>
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Post by: kvom on December 20, 2012, 06:57:08 AM

I was doing some reading the other day and read of some stuff near moab that made JV look wimpy. Know anything about the area? Just pulling up to some of the stuff was a bit fun.

I've read that there are trails in Farmington, NM that are really tough.  Seen a few videos too.
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Post by: GTDS on December 20, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
I hope I get this much input on the next thread I start?   ;D

 {cheers2}
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 20, 2012, 10:54:07 PM
100 post in 5 days. 2013's going to be a good year for the club!

The 100th post wins....




A hug from Doug


TAPATALK II
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Post by: DOUG on December 20, 2012, 11:01:36 PM
Lol

Sent from my Samsung Note 2
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Post by: gint2 on December 20, 2012, 11:41:36 PM
What do we win?

Oh wait... I just saw that!!! I pass!! Moderator, please delete this post! ASAP!!!! :)
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Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 20, 2012, 11:57:18 PM
What my present since he recants his post.
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 21, 2012, 07:58:14 AM
 </LMAO/>
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Post by: Krawler00 on December 21, 2012, 09:47:08 AM
Doug, time to break out the hugs buddy! Just get him some crown and coke and he will give 'em out all day! ;D
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 21, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
Doug, time to break out the hugs buddy! Just get him some crown and coke and he will give 'em out all day! ;D

 </LMAO/>

What my present since he recants his post.

^^ We have a winner ^^ Congrats man - Bell Mountain's going to be a nice back drop for photos </LMAO/>
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Post by: DOUG on December 21, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
Bear hug!

Sent from my Samsung Note 2
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Post by: jc79 on December 21, 2012, 01:48:14 PM
Forget CORE  X... With these man-on-man hugs it sounds more like CORE XXX!
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Post by: cru9 on December 21, 2012, 01:56:10 PM
Forget CORE  X... With these man-on-man hugs it sounds more like CORE XXX!

Lol!!!!
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Post by: onlygoon on December 21, 2012, 02:53:57 PM
That is awesome I wanna see this I will bring the crown
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Post by: DOUG on December 21, 2012, 03:59:47 PM
Will hug for crown

Sent from my Samsung Note 2
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 21, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Ill bring the camera  </LMAO/>
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Post by: tcdawg on December 21, 2012, 06:22:37 PM
Ill bring the camera  </LMAO/>

You can hover the camera from above and take some aerial "hug" shots!

We'll call it the Dug Hug Cam
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Post by: jc79 on December 21, 2012, 06:26:25 PM
Will hug for crown

Sent from my Samsung Note 2

Wrong. Will hug *because of* Crown!
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Post by: RD Slyter on December 22, 2012, 04:57:42 AM
 </LMAO/> </LMAO/> </LMAO/>
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Post by: tcdawg on December 22, 2012, 08:52:53 AM
Ill bring the camera  </LMAO/>

You can hover the camera from above and take some aerial "hug" shots!

We'll call it the Dug Hug Cam

Which one is Doug

http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0 (http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0)
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Post by: cru9 on December 22, 2012, 08:57:32 AM
Ill bring the camera  </LMAO/>

You can hover the camera from above and take some aerial "hug" shots!

We'll call it the Dug Hug Cam



Which one is Doug


 

http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0 (http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0)


I don't know which is funnier? Trying to figure out which one Doug is or Knowing Tony searched for that video and found it </LMAO/> </LMAO/> </LMAO/> </LMAO/> </LMAO/> </LMAO/> </LMAO/>
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Post by: DOUG on December 22, 2012, 09:03:48 AM
Tony did not have to look furthur than his most played list!

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Post by: cru9 on December 22, 2012, 09:06:29 AM
Tony did not have to look furthur than his most played list!

Sent from my Samsung Note 2

That is hilarious!
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Post by: gint2 on December 22, 2012, 11:29:19 AM
Ill bring the camera  </LMAO/>

You can hover the camera from above and take some aerial "hug" shots!

We'll call it the Dug Hug Cam

Which one is Doug

http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0 (http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0)

Dude,,,  WTF    that is wrong on so many levels!! I just threw up a little in my mouth!
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Post by: Raisinhead on December 22, 2012, 12:49:15 PM
Ill bring the camera  </LMAO/>

You can hover the camera from above and take some aerial "hug" shots!

We'll call it the Dug Hug Cam

Which one is Doug

http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0 (http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0)

You have problems man. Haha
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Post by: cudruln on December 22, 2012, 01:14:27 PM
Wow. I am lost for words. I couldn't even watch the whole video. 

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
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Post by: Danny Kinder on December 22, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
I just laughed out load at dinner!! That's hilarious!! </LMAO/>

{salute} BEAR FORCE ONE {salute}
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Post by: Texsun on December 23, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
I haven't exactly kept up with this thread, but I would like to share my .02 which ain't worth any more than the man/women next to me. Sorry if I am beating a dead horse or stirring up drama.


To sum it up, anyone that wants to attend a ride is more than welcome. However to get all the benefit you need to become a contributing member by joining CORE. With that said, I would agree to seperating into 2 groups on rides because I know the feeling of getting through an obstacle/trail in about 45 seconds and waiting 30-45 min for a less experoanced/built rig. No hard feelings to them just pointing out a legit reason to Seperate. The CORE X makes sense because its more like a close group of friends that grew up together, I am not apart of it or that I know of... And my butt doesn't hurt over it. I wish I could make more rides but I work crazy shifts/hours.


Long story short if anyone wants to wheel with me your more than welcome!
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Post by: cudruln on January 02, 2013, 03:23:41 PM
So as far as the goodies we will be receiving with the '13 membership, will there be more details to come for these or did I miss something (like size of shirt or color of sticker). Jsut making sure I didn't over look anything.  ::)
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Post by: Danny Kinder on January 02, 2013, 04:13:48 PM
Info/designs will be posted soon. Thanks for your patients 
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Post by: cudruln on January 02, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
No problem. I sorta figured there would be more info after the deadline for registration.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
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Post by: ranier1315 on January 03, 2013, 10:04:05 AM
Is there a way to confirm that my payment was received? The PayPal account shows paid. I just want to make sure you guys got it. Thanks for all the hard work by the admins.

Ranier.
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Post by: kent10sne1 on January 03, 2013, 10:15:36 AM
Is there a way to confirm that my payment was received? The PayPal account shows paid. I just want to make sure you guys got it. Thanks for all the hard work by the admins.

Ranier.

Look for your name to appear here.  http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=10104.0 (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=10104.0)
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Post by: Danny Kinder on January 03, 2013, 10:41:50 AM
Is there a way to confirm that my payment was received? The PayPal account shows paid. I just want to make sure you guys got it. Thanks for all the hard work by the admins.

Ranier.

 {pm}
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Post by: onlygoon on January 03, 2013, 10:47:37 AM
What does the little stars mean by some names.  Are they staff just wondering
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Post by: kent10sne1 on January 03, 2013, 10:52:00 AM
What does the little stars mean by some names.  Are they staff just wondering

 </LMAO/>  u dont want to know what I think it means.   </LMAO/>    //monk// //OFFICE// //SURFIN//
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Post by: Skandalous on January 03, 2013, 11:40:05 AM
24.) SKANDALIUS*   =  SKANDALOUS*

Not sure what it means eather but im not an admin at least not that I know of yet. I just joined in December.  ???
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Post by: Danny Kinder on January 03, 2013, 12:01:45 PM

This is for members that are signed up for Core, but have not paid for a 2013 Core shirt and decal. If you paid for the 2013 Core membership all of this was included.

We will offer the Core Shirt and decals if you would like to purchase them.


* = SIGNED UP FOR CORE / NOT PAID FOR SHIRT OR DECAL
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Post by: DOUG on January 18, 2013, 08:56:58 AM
CALENDAR CHANGE:

GATR Staff thanks everyone for their comments, and your input is appreciated.  We always take members input seriously, and we appreciate the support on the things you like.

GATR will offer a CORE ride in conjunction with the CORE-X rides, to run simultaneously in another group.  Everyone can maximize their trail experience, and meet back at camp for great fellowship around the campfire. 

We agree that this makes GATR better, and we appreciate all of the honest input.

GATR STAFF
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Post by: RD Slyter on January 19, 2013, 07:16:15 AM
CALENDAR CHANGE:

GATR Staff thanks everyone for their comments, and your input is appreciated.  We always take members input seriously, and we appreciate the support on the things you like.

GATR will offer a CORE ride in conjunction with the CORE-X rides, to run simultaneously in another group.  Everyone can maximize their trail experience, and meet back at camp for great fellowship around the campfire. 

We agree that this makes GATR better, and we appreciate all of the honest input.

GATR STAFF

Right on. So basically it kinda sets into stone what we've been doing already which is brake rides down into groups, then all meet back up later. This just kinda saves time in deciding who's riding with who pretty much.
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Post by: Krawler00 on January 19, 2013, 08:52:41 AM
Yup.
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Post by: onlygoon on January 19, 2013, 08:55:51 AM
Sweet that's awesome just now to get my rig up to par man it can't come fast enough
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Post by: RD Slyter on January 20, 2013, 07:43:28 AM
I truely feel for ya David.   8==D
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Post by: gint2 on January 21, 2013, 07:08:25 PM

This is for members that are signed up for Core, but have not paid for a 2013 Core shirt and decal. If you paid for the 2013 Core membership all of this was included.

We will offer the Core Shirt and decals if you would like to purchase them.


* = SIGNED UP FOR CORE / NOT PAID FOR SHIRT OR DECAL


Where do we pay for the shirt & decal? Can I stop by Allsouth, Square up this weekend or paypal you? Any are good with me. Thanks again for all you guys Staff/Admin do!
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Post by: Danny Kinder on January 22, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
Once we have a finalized price for the decals and shirts I will post it up we'll get the order together.
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Post by: tjvineyard on February 12, 2013, 09:52:12 AM
Is this a Jeep only club?
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Post by: Matt on February 12, 2013, 09:57:28 AM
Not at all. It is a 4X4 only club though.
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Post by: Krawler00 on February 12, 2013, 12:22:09 PM
Not at all. It is a 4X4 only club though.

That has come up before...  {popcorn}
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Post by: northgaZJ on February 25, 2013, 09:34:08 PM
So for $30 you get to join the club, you have access to private forums, you get a tshirt & decal? What else? Are there stipulations to the club that you have to make so many rides? Can they just be impromptu rides or do they have to be on the schedule? I'm just trying to figure out if its worth it. Thanks!
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Post by: tcdawg on February 26, 2013, 12:25:36 AM
So for $30 you get to join the club, you have access to private forums, you get a tshirt & decal? What else? Are there stipulations to the club that you have to make so many rides? Can they just be impromptu rides or do they have to be on the schedule? I'm just trying to figure out if its worth it. Thanks!

No stipulations, other than general safety rules.  No set number of rides you need to make.

We offer a full calendar of rides, some are open to all members, some are for CORE members only.
We wheel the best parks in the southeast and always have a great time!
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Post by: Skandalous on February 26, 2013, 09:39:19 AM
So for $30 you get to join the club, you have access to private forums, you get a tshirt & decal? What else? Are there stipulations to the club that you have to make so many rides? Can they just be impromptu rides or do they have to be on the schedule? I'm just trying to figure out if its worth it. Thanks!

No stipulations, other than general safety rules.  No set number of rides you need to make.

We offer a full calendar of rides, some are open to all members, some are for CORE members only.
We wheel the best parks in the southeast and always have a great time!

IMHO the $30 is worth the private forum access alone.  So much info there and you can hook up on the CORE rides as well  {letseat}
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Post by: Danny Kinder on February 26, 2013, 10:22:29 AM
INFORMATION:
http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=paypal (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=paypal)

If you want a 2013 Core member shirt we need the order placed today:
http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=10104.0 (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=10104.0)
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Post by: BigBlue98 on March 19, 2013, 06:57:44 PM
What to be a payed member and not just on the forum when is the next club meeting?? What do I need to pay for dues  plus shirt? I'm lost and my buddy to take me to meeting and info on this is outta town help plz!
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Post by: 94xjsport94 on June 15, 2013, 09:54:46 PM
Maybe it's because I'm on the app but I want to pay up and become a CORE member. Can't seem to find a link it thread about it anywhere... Helping hand please?
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Post by: DOUG on June 15, 2013, 10:20:23 PM
Button at the bottom of every page in web view.

Sent off camber
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Post by: Warren on September 18, 2013, 02:22:14 PM
Bringing back some posts from the dead..

I want to join core, but I don't see a definite answer from these posts.

It seems like people join core right away, but the sign up page says you must attend an open event first? I attended JeepFest, but not as part of this club. I actually looked up this group after the event, thanks to a few windshield banners catching my eye.

I ask this, because I would like to make one of the trips left this year, but they are all core rides.  //???//


Chris
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Post by: Matt on September 18, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
We have one event that will be opening in a few weeks. It will be in October.
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Post by: Warren on September 18, 2013, 05:08:37 PM
Are you referring to the event Oct 5th, or are you planning to add a new event?
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Post by: DOUG on September 18, 2013, 06:22:17 PM
Are you referring to the event Oct 5th, or are you planning to add a new event?

No, another event.  We do have an open event/ride in the planning stages that will be announced soon.  Very soon.  

We have CORE events that only CORE members can see.

Sent off camber
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Post by: Warren on September 18, 2013, 06:55:52 PM
Awesome! Looking forward to it
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Post by: Biscuit on July 29, 2014, 12:09:15 PM
Hey all, I paid the paypal fee and didn't notice until it was already processing that I needed to add my username.  My name is Kyle Brown, sorry for confusion!
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Post by: Nastygnome on August 16, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Wanting to join and become a core member but I was wondering how it works. Far as if I join now are my dues gonna be due again 12 months from my join date or again in jan.? 

Thanks
Billy
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Post by: tjsahara00 on August 18, 2014, 03:57:57 AM
Member ship due every January.


To be honest it's very hard to maintain
the start date compared to member ship
being due in January.....
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Post by: Nastygnome on August 18, 2014, 09:44:56 AM
Thanks for the reply and I bet it would be extremely and to monitor the due dates for all these different members!
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Post by: tjsahara00 on August 18, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Your welcome....glad you understand.

Join us on the open ride GATRFEST in
October (the event to make for sure).

We have a couple exclusive rides in
November and December for CORE
members......   
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Post by: Nastygnome on August 23, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
I joined as core last wondering how long til i receive conformation and CORE title and things?
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Post by: Nastygnome on August 28, 2014, 10:30:48 PM
Still haven't received my activation email?????? //???//
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Post by: mikhail2400 on October 13, 2014, 12:44:23 AM
I guess im not very good at searching but just how does one join GATR? What I mean is, are there different levels of membership besides Core?  If so what are the levels and what responsibilities/rights come with each level?
Ive seen that Core membership is only $30/year but that's about all ive been able to find.

P.S. We had a great time at GATR fest this weekend. Thanks for the invite and the all around general good natured attitudes we received this weekend.
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Post by: cru9 on October 13, 2014, 07:58:39 AM
I guess im not very good at searching but just how does one join GATR? What I mean is, are there different levels of membership besides Core?  If so what are the levels and what responsibilities/rights come with each level?
Ive seen that Core membership is only $30/year but that's about all ive been able to find.

P.S. We had a great time at GATR fest this weekend. Thanks for the invite and the all around general good natured attitudes we received this weekend.
There is the core membership which allows you to come on CORE rides or you can stay a regular forum member which gives you access to all open rides on the schedule.
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Post by: DOUG on October 13, 2014, 09:02:45 AM
I guess im not very good at searching but just how does one join GATR? What I mean is, are there different levels of membership besides Core?  If so what are the levels and what responsibilities/rights come with each level?
Ive seen that Core membership is only $30/year but that's about all ive been able to find.

P.S. We had a great time at GATR fest this weekend. Thanks for the invite and the all around general good natured attitudes we received this weekend.

Button at the top for CORE MEMBERSHIP takes you to the PayPal button. 

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=core_membership (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=core_membership)

We allow folks to join us on open rides without paying for a CORE membership in case it's not their thing.  It's not about the fee or the numbers, but about GATR continuing to grow with quality members like we have for years.  Wheel with us, get a taste for what it is all about, and then join CORE if it's something you want to become more involved in.  All we ask is that you follow our rules and requirements, and have fun!

And CORE gets access to the "Mud Pit" threads.
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Post by: clark123456 on October 13, 2014, 09:55:46 AM
I guess im not very good at searching but just how does one join GATR?

Maybe, but I had the same confusion.  "C.O.R.E." seemed so intimidating, but I paid my dues and was granted the title.

What I mean is, are there different levels of membership besides Core? 

YES

If so what are the levels and what responsibilities/rights come with each level?


Forum Member:  Responsibilities = If joining an OPEN ride, must meet minimum vehicle and safety requirements.  Can view non-CORE sections of forum and join OPEN rides.

CORE Member:  Responsibilities = If joining an OPEN or CORE ride, must meet minimum vehicle and safety requirements.  Can view all sections of the forum, join OPEN rides, and join CORE rides.

Minimum vehicle and safety requirements for GATR rides:  http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0 (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0)



NOTE: You do not have to have a buggy on 42's locked front and rear to be CORE.
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Post by: tcdawg on October 13, 2014, 12:37:32 PM

NOTE: You do not have to have a buggy on 42's locked front and rear to be CORE.

It'd be a lot cooler if you did

Wooderson
Dazed and Confused
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Post by: mikhail2400 on October 13, 2014, 06:21:09 PM

NOTE: You do not have to have a buggy on 42's locked front and rear to be CORE.

It'd be a lot cooler if you did

Wooderson
Dazed and Confused
I agree it would be a lot cooler if my rig was locked front and rear with 42s but that's gone be a while. Im stuck with just front lockers for now but that will change soon as I can swing it.
Thanks for answering my questions folks. It was exactly the info I was searching for.
Hope to see you on the trail in the coming months.
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Post by: Hargy on October 18, 2014, 04:37:05 PM
I signed up and paid for core membership earlier this date. How long does it take to get my status updated? And to be able to use the core section?

Thanks again.
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Post by: Danny Kinder on October 18, 2014, 06:57:06 PM
Your core membership has been activated.
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Post by: Big Dave on October 18, 2014, 07:45:32 PM
It usually takes a few days.
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Post by: jeepjunky68 on October 23, 2014, 05:54:30 PM
I plan on joining in January of 2015. Hope to get more involved next year. I met some nice people at Gulches. Looking forward to meeting more of you.
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Post by: F.I.D.O.con on February 02, 2015, 09:50:08 PM
I joined this group just a couple weeks ago. I'm interested in becoming a CORE member. The groups around me seem pretty uneventful.  One question, does the CORE member section include any ride tracks or maps of areas or rides? Thanks!
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Post by: clark123456 on February 03, 2015, 05:19:33 AM
Fidocom, you get the map of the January ride.  If you like to ride often, CORE is where you need to be.

- Torg

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Post by: HeadNeck on September 17, 2015, 12:32:04 AM
Thinking of becoming a core member myself. No other clubs have even spent the time to reply to my emails.
Question is, i have a stock 1996 XJ. Is that ok? Its not lifted, no body mods or anything like that. Is that ok? I definitely dont want to kill it, so no stupid stuff from me!
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Post by: Jango on September 17, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Thinking of becoming a core member myself. No other clubs have even spent the time to reply to my emails.
Question is, i have a stock 1996 XJ. Is that ok? Its not lifted, no body mods or anything like that. Is that ok? I definitely dont want to kill it, so no stupid stuff from me!

Welcome!
Stock is totally fine for this club! As long as you have 4wd and follow the ride necessities such as tow straps, cb radio, and a few other items. You can find the list of things to have to go on rides on the site.
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Post by: HeadNeck on September 17, 2015, 06:32:51 AM
Saweet! Im in then!
Membership payment sent in!
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Post by: tcdawg on September 17, 2015, 07:43:24 AM

Thinking of becoming a core member myself. No other clubs have even spent the time to reply to my emails.
Question is, i have a stock 1996 XJ. Is that ok? Its not lifted, no body mods or anything like that. Is that ok? I definitely dont want to kill it, so no stupid stuff from me!

Nice clean XJ right there!
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Post by: HeadNeck on September 17, 2015, 07:48:11 AM
Thanks! Im the second owner and try to keep her clean. But at the same time, dirt and mud just looks awesome on a jeep IMO!
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Post by: yellowjeep on November 04, 2015, 09:59:39 AM
Hi,
I am new to the forums. How can I join the club. Do you meet somewhere?

  I don't see the "Club Information Tab" as mentioned in the 'club information' thread.
Could you point me to the right place?
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Post by: DOUG on November 04, 2015, 10:10:10 AM
We don't really meet.  We have a few gatherings a year but mostly we ride.  Check out the calendar.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on November 04, 2015, 10:14:21 AM
Hi,
I am new to the forums. How can I join the club. Do you meet somewhere?

  I don't see the "Club Information Tab" as mentioned in the 'club information' thread.
Could you point me to the right place?

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=11632.0 (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=11632.0)
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Post by: yellowjeep on November 04, 2015, 01:22:21 PM
Kevin,
  That page does not have the info or links to the info.
-Anthony
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Post by: DOUG on November 04, 2015, 01:41:42 PM
Kevin,
  That page does not have the info or links to the info.
-Anthony

Nope, it does not.  You are right.  @PHANTOM must have moved somemthing. 

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2425.0 (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2425.0)
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Post by: Danny Kinder on November 04, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
The buttons are labled at the top "rules" & "Equipment"

RULES :
http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=rules (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=rules)

REQUIRED EQUIPMENT :
http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=required_trail_equipment (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=required_trail_equipment)
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Post by: chopps on November 14, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
Hi, if I wanted to join wouldn't it be better to wait till January 2016 to get a full year in or does it roll for 1 year date of payment ?
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Post by: DOUG on November 14, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
No need to wait, we will prorate next year. Welcome!
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Post by: Jeepster1407 on November 15, 2015, 12:21:38 AM
Nice to see you over here also Joe!


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Post by: chopps on November 15, 2015, 10:37:55 AM
Just paid thanks for the info I am one of the members now :)
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Post by: Lhub36 on November 15, 2015, 11:20:53 AM
Welcome to C.O.R.E.!

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Post by: bear991 on August 24, 2016, 07:49:22 AM
Wondering when my core membership will be active. still shown as a visitor. Dues paid, message sent
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Post by: spackle86 on September 17, 2016, 03:59:27 PM
Hi all.  I have a core membership but when I log in I am listed as a visitor and can't see the core rides.  I haven't been active this year (since the Helen ride) due to starting a company but I'm ready to get back to it.  Would love some help.  Thanks!  -Laurie
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Post by: PVogelpohl on February 19, 2018, 08:33:00 AM
Hello all, I joined last year and have finally found some time to get involved.  I am new to offloading and message boards.  I have the emergency contact form filled out but need to know where to send it or how to upload it.

I am hoping to join the group for the AOP ride in March.  Looking forward to it!
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Post by: DOUG on February 19, 2018, 08:58:34 AM
Hello all, I joined last year and have finally found some time to get involved.  I am new to offloading and message boards.  I have the emergency contact form filled out but need to know where to send it or how to upload it.

I am hoping to join the group for the AOP ride in March.  Looking forward to it!

Keep that form in your rig, glove box or somewhere else secure. 

Welcome to GATR, see you ar CFR at AOP.
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Post by: Woody’s_Jeep on June 04, 2019, 02:14:38 PM
Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Post by: Danny Kinder on June 04, 2019, 02:41:50 PM
@Woody’s_Jeep Here's a link : http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=17905.0


Definitely try and make it out to one of our rides. We wheel & camp all weekend, it's a blast!
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Post by: kly5953 on June 26, 2020, 02:22:14 PM
So I'm not generally able to make it out farther than 2 hours as most of the time I have to schedule a day trip seeing as I have a newborn and a 2 year old. So what would be my procedure to try to gather a few folks for a small alternative ride? Chocco, Morris, and AOP are obviously close enough to get to quickly, and I'd like to be more involved, just don't have the ability(or the desire) to be away from my kids for a whole weekend. I was just curious, and I couldnt find much info on it anywhere I looked.
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Post by: Danny Kinder on June 26, 2020, 03:07:52 PM
So I'm not generally able to make it out farther than 2 hours as most of the time I have to schedule a day trip seeing as I have a newborn and a 2 year old. So what would be my procedure to try to gather a few folks for a small alternative ride? Chocco, Morris, and AOP are obviously close enough to get to quickly, and I'd like to be more involved, just don't have the ability(or the desire) to be away from my kids for a whole weekend. I was just curious, and I couldnt find much info on it anywhere I looked.

You can post a thread under "Trail rides & open events" as long as we don't have club ride the same weekend.
http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?board=7.0
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Post by: Cochese on July 13, 2020, 02:46:35 PM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?
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Post by: Raisinhead on July 13, 2020, 05:12:37 PM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Good question!  I know the renewals were lumped together a few years back.
@Danny Kinder?


Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Hey Woody, sorry for the late response. Here's the link to answer your question. The club has switched from CB radios to GMRS/FRS type radios. A few of us are still running both. If you have any questions just ask.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0


LOL, only a little over a year behind @Trailabite  lmao

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Post by: Trailabite on July 14, 2020, 11:28:33 AM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Good question!  I know the renewals were lumped together a few years back.
@Danny Kinder?


Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Hey Woody, sorry for the late response. Here's the link to answer your question. The club has switched from CB radios to GMRS/FRS type radios. A few of us are still running both. If you have any questions just ask.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0


LOL, only a little over a year behind @Trailabite  lmao

Dam it!
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Post by: Cochese on July 14, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Good question!  I know the renewals were lumped together a few years back.
@Danny Kinder?


Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Hey Woody, sorry for the late response. Here's the link to answer your question. The club has switched from CB radios to GMRS/FRS type radios. A few of us are still running both. If you have any questions just ask.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0


LOL, only a little over a year behind @Trailabite  lmao

Dam it!

What brand/model GMRS is everyone running?   
Would like to have an in-dash DIN unit with a front mounted speaker like my President CB is today.
Any good threads to check out or articles?
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Post by: TravisMac on July 14, 2020, 07:42:14 PM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Good question!  I know the renewals were lumped together a few years back.
@Danny Kinder?


Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Hey Woody, sorry for the late response. Here's the link to answer your question. The club has switched from CB radios to GMRS/FRS type radios. A few of us are still running both. If you have any questions just ask.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0


LOL, only a little over a year behind @Trailabite  lmao

Dam it!

What brand/model GMRS is everyone running?   
Would like to have an in-dash DIN unit with a front mounted speaker like my President CB is today.
Any good threads to check out or articles?
Baofeng for me (or maybe it’s b tech). I don’t know about in dash mounting though as they can get hot and have a fan on the back
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Post by: Raisinhead on July 14, 2020, 07:47:21 PM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Good question!  I know the renewals were lumped together a few years back.
@Danny Kinder?


Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Hey Woody, sorry for the late response. Here's the link to answer your question. The club has switched from CB radios to GMRS/FRS type radios. A few of us are still running both. If you have any questions just ask.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0


LOL, only a little over a year behind @Trailabite  lmao

Dam it!

What brand/model GMRS is everyone running?   
Would like to have an in-dash DIN unit with a front mounted speaker like my President CB is today.
Any good threads to check out or articles?
Baofeng for me (or maybe it’s b tech). I don’t know about in dash mounting though as they can get hot and have a fan on the back
I have Btech and mounted here on my TJ. There are a few threads about the radios I think.  Maybe avoid the radio debate threads :)

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Post by: clark123456 on July 14, 2020, 08:09:31 PM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Good question!  I know the renewals were lumped together a few years back.
@Danny Kinder?


Is there anything I’m required to have. I’ve finally gotten a Jeep and I barely have any experience with off road trips.


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Hey Woody, sorry for the late response. Here's the link to answer your question. The club has switched from CB radios to GMRS/FRS type radios. A few of us are still running both. If you have any questions just ask.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=2396.0


LOL, only a little over a year behind @Trailabite  lmao

Dam it!

What brand/model GMRS is everyone running?   
Would like to have an in-dash DIN unit with a front mounted speaker like my President CB is today.
Any good threads to check out or articles?
Baofeng for me (or maybe it’s b tech). I don’t know about in dash mounting though as they can get hot and have a fan on the back
I have Btech and mounted here on my TJ. There are a few threads about the radios I think.  Maybe avoid the radio debate threads :)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200714/110cae8c28a2b185913c5a103a80619f.jpg)
I have the one Jay has.  I'd get the 50w version if I were to do it again.

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Post by: Danny Kinder on July 16, 2020, 09:59:34 AM
Looking to join CORE 1/2 way through the year.
When will my membership expire?  12/21/20 or 1 year from now?

Your membership expires 365 days from the time you sign up. The memberships that renew around the first of the year include a free club calendar of members rigs and events. You can just purchase one of these in Jan if you'd like one.
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Post by: Firulais on September 17, 2020, 09:38:12 AM
To become a member of core
PayPal  is the  only way to paid ?
I am new to all of this
Can I join  now or there's a grace period for me to join core
I apologize for  my ignorance


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Post by: Trailabite on September 17, 2020, 10:02:24 AM
To become a member of core
PayPal  is the  only way to paid ?
I am new to all of this
Can I join  now or there's a grace period for me to join core
I apologize for  my ignorance


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@Danny Kinder will have to answer that.
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Post by: Firulais on September 17, 2020, 10:04:16 AM
Thank you

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Post by: Danny Kinder on October 02, 2020, 06:00:01 PM
Thank you



Yeah brother you're fine to join any time! The membership is 365 days, so you're good to go. Shoot me a message with any questions you may have.

http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?action=core_membership
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Post by: Jeepster1407 on November 21, 2023, 10:36:09 AM
Man this place has all but DIED. Anyways I let my CORE membership lapse and I'm trying to regain my CORE status. I submitted my payment a couple weeks ago to Danny on PayPal and my account has yet to be switched over. Do any of the current active staff have permission to do this or am I stuck waiting on Danny to respond? Anyone have a way to contact him? He hasn't responded to my message on here.

@Danny Kinder @tcdawg @Raisinhead @Grass Janitor @Trailabite
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Post by: Grass Janitor on November 21, 2023, 06:51:34 PM
If I can update it I'm not sure how, I think Danny handles everything, sorry for the delayed response.
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Post by: Mortalis5509 on November 22, 2023, 01:22:46 PM
If I can update it I'm not sure how, I think Danny handles everything, sorry for the delayed response.
I submitted my payments 5 months ago or something, but no change.

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Post by: Danny Kinder on November 24, 2023, 10:00:35 AM
The accounts were updated. I just didn't see your payment Tripp. I just updated yours today. Sorry I missed that.
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Post by: Mortalis5509 on November 24, 2023, 01:01:51 PM
The accounts were updated. I just didn't see your payment Tripp. I just updated yours today. Sorry I missed that.
Thank you.

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Post by: Danny Kinder on November 24, 2023, 01:24:19 PM
The accounts were updated. I just didn't see your payment Tripp. I just updated yours today. Sorry I missed that.
Thank you.

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Yessir. Sorry again. Let me know if there's anything else I missed or anything you guys need.