Georgia Trail Riders Forum
MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: BigMike on August 24, 2018, 10:56:44 AM
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The LJ is known as a great starter platform for a crawler. With only 3 years of production, good ones will get harder to find. But, they will also be more attractive to someone that wants to build a crawler as there will be more high mileage ones out there.
Besides having to run a fuel cell, what advantage does an LJ have over a comp cut TJ?
Also, if you’re looking at a platform to build, what about an early JK 2 door that is stretched and/or comp cut? A V8 is a must there but still.
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For me it was two things... one form, one function.
* Back seat and a usable cargo area. I didn't lose either by putting the fuel cell under the rear of the tub. This has worked very well for me when I've taken my three kids camping in the LJ.
* Longer body allows for a rear stretch without having to comp cut the corners. My strong personal preference was not to comp cut in order to get the look I was going for.
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I agree with Jared I don't care about comp cut either for me.
So with a TJ about all you can get with a stretch is 100'' and
that's with added a aluminum gas tank.
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I like the look and the wheel base.
As I have been looking for parts for the LJ, things are not as available as I thought they use to be.
I also have concerns about how much do you modify them. Will they be more valuable un modified, or will it diminish the value.
Side note, I did pick up a LJR a month or so ago. Trying to decide how to build it, or keep it more stock.
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I like the look and the wheel base.
As I have been looking for parts for the LJ, things are not as available as I thought they use to be.
I also have concerns about how much do you modify them. Will they be more valuable un modified, or will it diminish the value.
Side note, I did pick up a LJR a month or so ago. Trying to decide how to build it, or keep it more stock.
You and your casual pick ups... it'll have tons and 37s in a few weeks
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I like the look and the wheel base.
As I have been looking for parts for the LJ, things are not as available as I thought they use to be.
I also have concerns about how much do you modify them. Will they be more valuable un modified, or will it diminish the value.
Side note, I did pick up a LJR a month or so ago. Trying to decide how to build it, or keep it more stock.
You and your casual pick ups... it'll have tons and 37s in a few weeks
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you and your time to work on jeeps. ha
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I’ll second everything Jared has said. I freaking love my LJ.
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Side note, I did pick up a LJR a month or so ago. Trying to decide how to build it, or keep it more stock.
Gonna need pics
ASAFP
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Side note, I did pick up a LJR a month or so ago. Trying to decide how to build it, or keep it more stock.
Gonna need pics
ASAFP
okok, looks like this
I still need to figure out a better image hosting site.
All three of the garage queens together, the LJ needs the chrome removed.
It was suppose to be for my dad for a few years, then mine. But its just mine now.
(http://i.imgur.com/8y7qnwP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/8y7qnwP)
on the way home
(http://i.imgur.com/mUMgPSu.jpg) (https://imgur.com/mUMgPSu)
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Tony may want those chrome takeoffs!
Kickass stable of Jeeps for sure!
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Narrow TJ/LJ body is definitely an advantage on the trail over the JK,
and no fuel cell in the passenger compartment is always a good thing
But for a dedicated trail rig, the comp cut stretched TJ departure angle rocks.
For a duel use family camping cruising rig, LJ is hard to beat.
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Narrow TJ/LJ body is definitely an advantage on the trail over the JK,
I feel like that’s LJ propaganda. The body is 5” narrower but I prefer the additional shoulder room and have never seen an obstacle and think, man my body is 5” too wide. There are advantages of no b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr and advantages of shorter body length, but I don’t see it being a big deal for width at the body.
The width that could matter is the axle width but everyone changes to tons that are the nearly same width anyway so that seems almost moot also.
At the end of the day I think it’s about styling, finding the sweet spot in length of the body, and feeling special that only 3yrs were made versus 8? Years of the TJ and 10 years for a JK than anything else.
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TJ was ten years, but more like 11 due to no 96 version. Jk was 12 years.
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a couple things I think are advantages
Less electronics to get in the way
The narrower width is nice to reach from side to side inside the rig
I do like the gas tank placement over the JK as well, easier to link
Simple body lines
kind of neutral stuff
suspension mods could arguably be easier, but many many mods have been worked to for the JK/U platform as well.
Disadvantages, it seems less and less items are being made for the platform.
While I decide what jeep is going to leave and what is going to stay. I am finding less and less TJ/LJ stuff, or stuff as I recall was available. But that is part of the aging process of a platform.
Thinking the limited run will make the LJ harder to find aftermarket support.
To be honest,I was trying to find a decent LJ when I picked up the JKU. I could not find one that I wanted to pay for. Then my dad started having issues with his truck. I started looking at LJs again for him. I found one or two, with too high of a price. Then the price dropped on one that made it close to my budget. I went and drove it and offered them less than I thought they would take. They said yes and I was thinking ohhhhh sh, I guess I just bought another jeep.
Now I sit with the dilemma, I don't need all three, I don't want all three. Which one to sell, or which two to sell. Heck even which three to sell.
My somewhat off topic reply.
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Narrow TJ/LJ body is definitely an advantage on the trail over the JK,
I feel like that’s LJ propaganda. The body is 5” narrower but I prefer the additional shoulder room and have never seen an obstacle and think, man my body is 5” too wide. There are advantages of no b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr and advantages of shorter body length, but I don’t see it being a big deal for width at the body.
The width that could matter is the axle width but everyone changes to tons that are the nearly same width anyway so that seems almost moot also.
At the end of the day I think it’s about styling, finding the sweet spot in length of the body, and feeling special that only 3yrs were made versus 8? Years of the TJ and 10 years for a JK than anything else.
I'm thinking whenever there is lean, take a trail like Upper Heldirado, narrower makes a big difference, even with windshield down and no B pillar, due to the tight spaces and the lean.
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Narrow TJ/LJ body is definitely an advantage on the trail over the JK,
I feel like that’s LJ propaganda. The body is 5” narrower but I prefer the additional shoulder room and have never seen an obstacle and think, man my body is 5” too wide. There are advantages of no b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr and advantages of shorter body length, but I don’t see it being a big deal for width at the body.
The width that could matter is the axle width but everyone changes to tons that are the nearly same width anyway so that seems almost moot also.
At the end of the day I think it’s about styling, finding the sweet spot in length of the body, and feeling special that only 3yrs were made versus 8? Years of the TJ and 10 years for a JK than anything else.
I'm thinking whenever there is lean, take a trail like Upper Heldirado, narrower makes a big difference, even with windshield down and no B pillar, due to the tight spaces and the lean.
That trail turn obstacle is about not having a b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr.
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Narrow TJ/LJ body is definitely an advantage on the trail over the JK,
I feel like that’s LJ propaganda. The body is 5” narrower but I prefer the additional shoulder room and have never seen an obstacle and think, man my body is 5” too wide. There are advantages of no b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr and advantages of shorter body length, but I don’t see it being a big deal for width at the body.
The width that could matter is the axle width but everyone changes to tons that are the nearly same width anyway so that seems almost moot also.
At the end of the day I think it’s about styling, finding the sweet spot in length of the body, and feeling special that only 3yrs were made versus 8? Years of the TJ and 10 years for a JK than anything else.
I'm thinking whenever there is lean, take a trail like Upper Heldirado, narrower makes a big difference, even with windshield down and no B pillar, due to the tight spaces and the lean.
That trail turn obstacle is about not having a b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr.
So the comparison is TJ UNLIMITED vs JK LIMITED?
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Narrow TJ/LJ body is definitely an advantage on the trail over the JK,
I feel like that’s LJ propaganda. The body is 5” narrower but I prefer the additional shoulder room and have never seen an obstacle and think, man my body is 5” too wide. There are advantages of no b-pillar which is more 2dr vs 4dr and advantages of shorter body length, but I don’t see it being a big deal for width at the body.
The width that could matter is the axle width but everyone changes to tons that are the nearly same width anyway so that seems almost moot also.
At the end of the day I think it’s about styling, finding the sweet spot in length of the body, and feeling special that only 3yrs were made versus 8? Years of the TJ and 10 years for a JK than anything else.
I'm thinking whenever there is lean, take a trail like Upper Heldirado, narrower makes a big difference, even with windshield down and no B pillar, due to the tight spaces and the lean.
It would also matter in carnage canyon on the waterfall
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It would also matter in carnage canyon on the waterfall
One of the JK guys is going to have to start that trail before we can know for sure!