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MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: cru9 on February 12, 2013, 07:16:38 AM
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And replace one item on your Jeep for free what would it be?
I would replace my front Axle to a Prorock 44
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I'd probably switch out my bumpers. I have RR, would switch to LOD or PS
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I know this is a little different....but
for me....wish I would have known the
difference and bought a Rubicon to begin
with. Damn at the money I would have
saved over the last 9 years.
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np231 for a 241 rubi case.
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I'd replace the 3.6 liter with a 7.0 liter hemi </ROCKIN/>
Seriously, I think I would go with a 3/4 link setup instead of the RE long arm.
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np231 for a 241 rubi case.
X2
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My 241or for an atlas.
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Is this a mod you done being replaced with another mod for free. Or just a free part you would like to have?
If its a mod 4.8L for a Hemi since its free.
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It is replacing something from the past
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better driveshafts than these crappy teraflex ones I have now
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My 241or for an atlas.
Go ahead and get that atlas... I want a 241 and am starting to look for one ;D
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better driveshafts than these crappy teraflex ones I have now
Teraflex driveshafts are made by Tatton Driveline
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If I could go back in time...rather than spending $125/wheel for a regular aluminum 8" wide wheel I would have bit the bullet and gone with a 9" wide beadlock
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My 241or for an atlas.
Go ahead and get that atlas... I want a 241 and am starting to look for one ;D
Mine will be for sale in June. I am not taking my jeep apart till after MOAB.
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My 241or for an atlas.
Go ahead and get that atlas... I want a 241 and am starting to look for one ;D
Mine will be for sale in June. I am not taking my jeep apart till after MOAB.
DIBS!!!!!!!
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Mine will be for sale in June. I am not taking my jeep apart till after MOAB.
As long as it works and isnt beat to hell you can pretty much consider it sold! (unless you already got someone lined up) :'(
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Jerm, see above that post... ;D
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Check post on previous page </ROCKIN/>
I got cash money waiting! Mods for this year: 241, rear shafts, rear locker, maybe some new front shocks
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Larry has known me longer and likes me better </LMAO/>
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lol we can fight to the death when he is ready to sell it
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^^^^ hilarious
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Sounds like a wheel off is in order {popcorn}
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Sounds like a wheel off is in order {popcorn}
I accept the challenge!
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I don't know looks like Jerm said something first.... ()()
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{bruce} Hush Kevin!
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Jeep with the lowest miles win?
{peek}
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Jeep with the lowest miles win?
Come on, this is America.... The guy with the most $$$ always wins!
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I know I know I would have got BIGGER tires!!! </LMAO/>
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To be honest I probably would have bought a Rubicon since I am just now paying to get lockers, after going out on an expedition and seeing whats what, not exactly the question but its the one thing I would replace.
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I would have bought a rough country 6.5inch long arm kit. but im stuck (for now) with a rough country 4.5 inch short arm lift {:CH}
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how much would a 241 go for? I might have one for sale this year.
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I am sure it comes down to miles, maintenance history, condition and all that but I have seen the asking price around the 700-1000 mark usually. But I never really looked before now so I could be way off
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how much would a 241 go for? I might have one for sale this year.
about 900. What would you run instead? They are a pretty good case and don't require sye's compared to the 231. The 231 doesn't have the gearing of the 241. The only other option is an atlas but that's money. The only advantage would be twin sticks but that's it for a stock set up.
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Atlas 2...my thought was instead of re-gearing after upgrades to 37" tires, i would sell my 241 and slap the atlas 2 in there and use the ultra low to compensate for the axle gearing. Not really sure if it would work, just a outside the box thought. Am i off base?
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Atlas 2...my thought was instead of re-gearing after upgrades to 37" tires, i would sell my 241 and slap the atlas 2 in there and use the ultra low to compensate for the axle gearing. Not really sure if it would work, just a outside the box thought. Am i off base?
no you are not off base, that would work offroad....it wouldn't help you on the road.
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That's my plan to. I could get a 241 and new driveshaft for the rear for cheaper than an axle regear. When I do the crawl ratio calculator a 4:1 tcase change gets a much lower ratio than a regear to 4.88s (lowest I can do in the TJ D30) with the stock tcase
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Starting new thread for this one. I don't want to take away from the topic of this thread.
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That's my plan to. I could get a 241 and new driveshaft for the rear for cheaper than an axle regear. When I do the crawl ratio calculator a 4:1 tcase change gets a much lower ratio than a regear to 4.88s (lowest I can do in the TJ D30) with the stock tcase
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Regearing both axles would be less than $1000. 241 + driveshaft + 1310/1330 U-joint for front shaft would be worst case $1300. For that money you could just install a tera low kit in the 231 and keep your driveshafts.
Gears will benefit you all the time for less money. I bought my G2 gears on sale at 4WP, with master installs and free G2 covers. Look for the sales. Actually they are giving away covers right now. You can have gears installed as low as $200 per axle.
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Regearing both axles would be less than $1000. 241 + driveshaft + 1310/1330 U-joint for front shaft would be worst case $1300. For that money you could just install a tera low kit in the 231 and keep your driveshafts.
If somebody gave me a tera low kit already installed in a 231, I would sell it. I know of three people personally that installed them and they broke.They each got warrantied replacements. One guy's teralow kit broke twice and when it got replace the second time the company told him they would not replace it again.
You get a lot more than just 4:1 gears when you get the 241OR.
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Regearing both axles would be less than $1000. 241 + driveshaft + 1310/1330 U-joint for front shaft would be worst case $1300. For that money you could just install a tera low kit in the 231 and keep your driveshafts.
If somebody gave me a tera low kit already installed in a 231, I would sell it. I know of three people personally that installed them and they broke.They each got warrantied replacements. One guy's teralow kit broke twice and when it got replace the second time the company told him they would not replace it again.
You get a lot more than just 4:1 gears when you get the 241OR.
What part failed? This could halt my plans for one. The Tera Low also has an upgraded 5 gear planetary, which could be a POS. Everything else is pretty much 231 parts which are cheap and easy to replace.
This would be my second choice.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/motor-tranny-t-case-performance/696803-np231-planetary-crawlbox-box4rocks-499-a.html
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Larry I have read quite a few failues of the Teralow kit as well. Enough that keeps me from doing it
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Larry I have read quite a few failues of the Teralow kit as well. Enough that keeps me from doing it
I read up now that the pins fail in the planetary when you rev them over 3k in 4 low. I have also read that Teraflex warns against this and have read good things for people that dont abuse. But then again do you want to have to worry about it? I think the B4R doubler would be the best deal with a 300. Run the 6 gear planetary in the 231. 231/300 is the length of a 231 with slip yoke. I have had 0 problems from the 231 and it easy to work on and cheap to fix/replace.
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But then again do you want to have to worry about it?
Agreed. Sometimes this is worth a little more. I like a good deal but spending time broke, even if with a warranty, sucks
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Not to have gotten rid of it to start with
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Not to have gotten rid of it to start with
so true. I'll bet half the club has a jeep in their past they wish they had never sold. I know I do.
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so true. I'll bet half the club has a jeep in their past they wish they had never sold. I know I do.
Yep. Bought a 98 XJ, loaded, 4x4, garage kept, 60 something thousand miles from my dads friend for $5k back in early 05... what that rig could be today
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Regearing both axles would be less than $1000. 241 + driveshaft + 1310/1330 U-joint for front shaft would be worst case $1300. For that money you could just install a tera low kit in the 231 and keep your driveshafts.
Not going to lie... thought it cost a lot more than that to regear. I figured it was in the 1300-1400 range. I also know I can sell my 231 but for no more than 300 probably
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yep, I regret selling my yj to pay off my wifes car
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Regearing both axles would be less than $1000. 241 + driveshaft + 1310/1330 U-joint for front shaft would be worst case $1300. For that money you could just install a tera low kit in the 231 and keep your driveshafts.
Not going to lie... thought it cost a lot more than that to regear. I figured it was in the 1300-1400 range. I also know I can sell my 231 but for no more than 300 probably
And you may not need master installs, but with the sale, I am pretty sure you have to get a ring & pinion plus master install to get the free covers which are nice. They could be resold for $100 each. G2 covers have a drain plug in the bottom and are aluminum or iron. I have zero noise from the G2 gears and would buy again. Just keep an eye out for the good deals.
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Whats labor cost these days on regear?
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A few post back but, you can get it as low as 200 per axle
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I have saw two where the cases broke and one that the insides was so badly damaged that it looked like a bomb went off inside it. Those three and the other stuff I read about on the net kept me form buying one and just saving up till I could get the 241or.
The case is pure beef on the 241or.
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A few post back but, you can get it as low as 200 per axle
Well just damn. I have been avoiding it for so long. Ill wait to truckfest, they always seem to be throwing around deals on G2 stuff and axle shafts...
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</LMAO/>
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I put it off until I had two different axle under the jeep. Then I just bit the bullet. I dont regret it at all. I definitely would do that over T/C first.
Now all this t/c talk has had me reading all day. I just remembered I have another 231 laying in the garage collecting dust. I want to stretch the rear, but didnt want to replace the rear driveshaft again, so I am thinking about picking up a box4rocks kit after tax time and building the super long 231/231 doubler. I think it is about 7" longer that whats in it now, which would put my rear stretch in the 7" range. I hate jeeps.
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I had found some website that claimed they made new gears and a thicker chain that would bring the 231 to the 4:1... I emailed and never heard back... site looked a little old school. Would love the 4:1 though! I dont see my jeep selling anytime soon, its always for the right price, but until then ill keep modding.
Kvom, pretty good point about the crawl ratio thing. We spend so much time in the dirt and mud that it is so rare to be on complete rock
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I'll take gearing over a TC anyday. I have used the crawling ability to the best I can here in the south and would not want to be on anything else. I rarely am having to hit things with speed and cannot remember the last time I had to. Wheeling style dictates alot on how you want to build.
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I'll take gearing over a TC anyday. I have used the crawling ability to the best I can here in the south and would not want to be on anything else. I rarely am having to hit things with speed and cannot remember the last time I had to. Wheeling style dictates alot on how you want to build.
That's why I ordered an atlas 4 speed for different conditions.
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I am greedy. 5.38s and 4:1 tcase. </ROCKIN/>
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I am greedy. 5.38s and 4:1 tcase. </ROCKIN/>
My 1 ton in a current build of that. 5.3, 5.38's, and 4 speed of 2.73, 3.8, and 10.37. I'll guess ill let it idle up a concrete wall at 10 low..lol.
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I am greedy. 5.38s and 4:1 tcase. </ROCKIN/>
damn good combination! {cheers2}
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Time to bring this thread back to life!
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Diggn' it!
For me, I think it'd have to be going with a Rubi right off the bat instead of tinkering with this Sport.
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weld on/frame mounted sliders instead of tub mount.
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Not much to regret, it works well together but if I had to pick one thing, I think I would say the LoD rear bumper. I think I might like the PS better, but not totally sold. I been taking my time with the build in hopes to not have any regrets. That gets too $$$$ly.
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I should have ordered my Atlas about a year ago //:'(// Staying tonight to put the TeraFlex case back in (just for one ride)
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I would have done a proper 2-3 inch lift with springs and shocks.
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I should have ordered my Atlas about a year ago //:'(// Staying tonight to put the TeraFlex case back in (just for one ride)
They are in no hurry.
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at this early point in my offraod stint. It would have to bee the tubular step bars I have. I would deffinelt y have a set of sliders with a step welded on instead for more clearance and the same use for getting in and out.
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I would have gotten mine sooner. Maybe an 08 rubi with the old lifetime warranty.
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weld on/frame mounted sliders instead of tub mount.
x2 on this. I have two dents in my pinch seam on either side from where my sliders have flexed up into the body //:bs//
I also would have gone with 35's rather than these 295/70R17's. At the time I was too afraid of the loss in power, but I should have just gone with it. The difference wouldn't have been that great. Ah well, in a few years once I got enough cash i'll just skip the 35's and go straight to 37's //;D//