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Title: diesel programmers??
Post by: tjsahara00 on April 23, 2013, 09:41:57 AM
Was thinking of getting one.....but which one??
Would like a lttle better towing and mpg's
96 F250 7.3 4x4 5 speed with 4:10 gears
DIY intake, cat delete with staight pipe....
not a daily driver, pulls camper, and hauls Jeep

Any thoughts are advice would be helpful....
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: kvom on April 23, 2013, 09:56:40 AM
http://powerstrokenation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46793

From what I read, replacing the stock turbo downpipe is the best upgrade for the $.
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: cudruln on April 23, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
6 position chip for the win. Plug it into the ecu and set the turn dial and go. I think ts was the one I had on my past diesel and loved it.

Edit: make sure you have a good set of gauges.

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Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: bear991 on April 23, 2013, 09:25:46 PM
I have a 2006 Dodge with the 5.9 Cummins H.O. I put the Banks dual exhaust with the monster muffler on it. K& N cold air intake and filter. Bully Dog downloader and tweaked the pump .........just a little. You have one of the best pickup diesel engines ever produced. I don't know if Bully Dog has a programmer but I really like the product. I can make mine do some wild stuff
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: DOUG on April 23, 2013, 09:39:31 PM
I think I have a programmer from Diablosports for a 7.3 in the garage.

Predator for 99-03 that has been reset to factory.



Sent off camber
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: The_Dealer on April 23, 2013, 10:01:07 PM
I have a 2006 Dodge with the 5.9 Cummins H.O. I put the Banks dual exhaust with the monster muffler on it. K& N cold air intake and filter. Bully Dog downloader and tweaked the pump .........just a little. You have one of the best pickup diesel engines ever produced. I don't know if Bully Dog has a programmer but I really like the product. I can make mine do some wild stuff

My buddy had a custom smartys on his 24v, that thing would move!
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: kvom on April 24, 2013, 07:29:49 AM
I think I have a programmer from Diablosports for a 7.3 in the garage.

Predator for 99-03 that has been reset to factory.

Sent off camber

won't work for Kevin - ECU added in 99
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: tjsahara00 on May 09, 2013, 05:03:42 AM
I bought a new TS 6 postion chip  ($300)
Got it put on last night. Can you say hello horsepower?
This is how it's programmed
1. stock settings
2. high idle for cold starts
3.   50HP/90 ft-lbs torque 
4.   75HP/140 ft-lbs torque
5. 100HP/185 ft-lbs torque
6. 140+ EXTREME/260 ft-lbs torque
I have the intake and straight pipe with stock injectors
Got a 5 speed so tranny temp won't be an issue
It will put out some black smoke but not really rolling coal.
I can't believe how big of a difference even on the lower settings!
I will be towing to Choccollocco next Saturday and see how it does pulling.
I plan on leaving it on the 75 hp setting and see how the towing and mpg do.
I really can't wait for Harlan......them long ass hills won't be so bad this time!!
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: DOUG on May 09, 2013, 07:30:22 AM
The difference is amazing

Sent off camber
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: cudruln on May 09, 2013, 10:39:18 AM
That ts chip if the way to go. Loved mine

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Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: Scott F. on May 09, 2013, 09:03:09 PM
I have a TS performance 6 position chip on my 2000 7.3 as well. It does make a huge difference. The only thing I was disappointed with was the mileage, I may see a small increase if any around town stop and go driving but running empty on the highway the mileage is less on both the 50 and 75 hp settings than stock.  I usually tow in the 50 hp setting and when I run the numbers on the fuel it comes out to almost the exact same as when I was towing without the chip. The truck gets the weight up to speed a lot easier and faster though!

I bought my chip in 2004, I have wondered if there would be any benefit to sending it back to them and having it reprogrammed. Are the tunes for the 7.3 the same today as what TS put on there 9-10 years ago?
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: cudruln on May 09, 2013, 09:07:50 PM
Scott, am I reading this correct. Your fuel mileage stays the same with the power bumped up. I would think that's a good thing? Also I would probably send it back, there is probably a update for something that might help out. Or at least call about it

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Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: kvom on May 09, 2013, 09:31:46 PM
My 02 7.3 has a DPTuner - I just have stock, tow, econ.  Use econ all the time when not towing.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: bear991 on May 09, 2013, 10:43:42 PM
My Bullydog has the econ/tow setting as the same. My Dodge is a 2006 4x4 with the H.O. Cummins. It will get 19-22 mpg depending on terrain. My truck seems to run better with a bit of a load on it. If I turn it up to the performance setting it will smoke the 38/12.50's just about as long as I  hold it open. I never run it there cause the fuel mileage is terrible.
The biggest thing you could do to help your mileage would be to change gear ratio,4.10 is pretty low.
I ordered 4.33 gear sets in my truck with the six speed auto and I can pull anything I hook to.
We have a 41ft. Cyclone toy hauler that weighs in at 18000 lbs. Add all my wife's junk and two full size Harleys and 35 gallons of gas in the refueling station and I'm sure it comes in at or around 22000 lbs. and we pull that thing all over these mtns up here and out west. Fuel mileage really sucks but it will do it.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: DOUG on May 09, 2013, 10:48:17 PM
JEALOUS!
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: Scott F. on May 10, 2013, 12:24:22 PM
Scott, am I reading this correct. Your fuel mileage stays the same with the power bumped up. I would think that's a good thing? Also I would probably send it back, there is probably a update for something that might help out. Or at least call about it

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Yep, with the exact same load on the same trips I get 12-12.5 mpg towing at 75 mph, stock and in the 50 hp setting. I have never towed in any of the higher settings. I was hoping to see a small improvement towing with the chip since the truck does not work nearly as hard getting up to speed or on the hills. More boost=more fuel so i guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

With the truck empty on the highway I lose about 1-1.5mpg if i don't turn it back to the stock setting, this is at 75.
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: Mortalis5509 on May 10, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
Scott, am I reading this correct. Your fuel mileage stays the same with the power bumped up. I would think that's a good thing? Also I would probably send it back, there is probably a update for something that might help out. Or at least call about it

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Yep, with the exact same load on the same trips I get 12-12.5 mpg towing at 75 mph, stock and in the 50 hp setting. I have never towed in any of the higher settings. I was hoping to see a small improvement towing with the chip since the truck does not work nearly as hard getting up to speed or on the hills. More boost=more fuel so i guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

With the truck empty on the highway I lose about 1-1.5mph if I don't turn it back to the stock setting, this is at 75.

That's interesting. I have the 6.4 but when I tune it to it's highest setting of 300hp of stock (650hp, 1200 tq) I gain mileage unloaded.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: JakeRobinson88 on May 10, 2013, 09:46:58 PM
I had a Edge Juiced Attitude chip in my 03 F250 and on level 5 setting which had the most added HP it also gave it the best MPG.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: hox on May 14, 2013, 08:19:46 AM
i have a 95 f350 e fuel conversion 238 hybrid injectors 6.0L intercooler d66 turbo 5" straight piped, head studs upgraded valve springs and push rods and a tw 6 pos. the problem with the obs is all of your power is below were you drive on highway with your 4.10 setup your probably turning 2000 rpm at 59 maybe 60 mph your best bet for fuel economy is to go to a set of 3.55 gears i get almost 20 highway and the motor will run cooler. especially with the zf5. i have built prob 20 of these 7.3 so whatever you need help on let me know. Yes the programmes are completely different form back then the formatting has changed. just send it in and they will do a reburn for you.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: tjsahara00 on May 21, 2013, 05:16:50 AM
Alright I towed the Jeep for the first time since I added the chip. Went to
Choccolocco Saturday. I had it set on the 75 hp / 140 ft/lb. One of the first
things I had to watch was starting off from red lights on wet pavement....LOL

I could tell a big difference in how easy it was pulling.......and I got an extra
2 mpg....That may not sound like much but it adds up over 2 tanks of diesel.

Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: hox on May 21, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
nice sounds like it working good for you
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: Scott F. on May 21, 2013, 10:12:03 PM
Going to start out on the way to Moab tomorrow in the 75hp setting. We see what kinda of mileage that gets me, hopefully no worse than the 12.11mpg back when it was stock. I have been towing in the 50 hp setting since I got the chip.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: hox on May 21, 2013, 10:13:37 PM
what else do you have done to the truck beside programmer
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: Scott F. on May 21, 2013, 10:32:02 PM
AFE intake, 4" down pipe and 5" muffler back and that's it besides the chip. Oh and gauges of course.
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: hox on May 22, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
if you decide to do anything else you should do a boost fooler next it will stop the defueling at 25 psi its really a mini air pressure rugulator you can get them from beans diesel performance makes a big dif also think about modifying your idm.
Title: Re: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: cudruln on May 22, 2013, 08:03:43 PM
Boost fooler another good upgrade.

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Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: tjsahara00 on July 25, 2013, 05:34:08 AM
Well before the Harlan trip I added a EGT gauge.
The highest it hit for Harlan on some of those hills
was 1200 degrees twice. At least I know for sure now.


(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s674/NGJrockcrawler/misc/egtgauge_zps91a2cd68.jpg) (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/NGJrockcrawler/media/misc/egtgauge_zps91a2cd68.jpg.html)
Title: Re: diesel programmers??
Post by: Scott F. on July 25, 2013, 09:15:36 PM
/\---- definitely a must, I drive by mine while towing. Crossing the continental divide at 11K ft I had to back off the throttle almost the whole way up to keep the EGTs in check.