Georgia Trail Riders Forum
MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: jeepjunky68 on August 14, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
-
Opinions wanted. I am fixing to purchase a winch and am looking at either the Engo E9000 or the Superwinch Tiger Shark 9500. I am on a budget so I can't afford a $1000 Warn. I just wondered if anyone has either one of these and if they are a decent winch for the $300 range.
Looked at the Badlands from Harbor Freight but have read mixed reviews on that one so I may stay away from it.
-
I can't speak for the Superwinch but I have an Engo..... You get what you pay for. Build quality isn't great but it was worked so far. They did replace the first one I bought under warranty due to the motor quit working so at least the warranty was OK. I'm just glad I wasn't two miles in on a big rock climb and really needed the winch.
Take this for what it is. An opinion. You could buy a $ 1000 warn and get a lemon also.
-
That is surprising. I have read good reviews on the Engo. I guess anything in the $300 range is a crap shoot?!
-
I paid $285 shipped for my rugged ridge 8.5k 2 years ago. It's been good to me for ~20 pulls. You won't find one for ~$300 with synthetic rope. With that being said, buy synthetic rope with your winch. Steel cable is heavy, a pain in the ass to pull, kinks when spooled over itself, and is unpredictable when it breaks. Yes it will get you out of a bind, but synthetic is what you'll end up with eventually might as well start with it.
-
My Engo died after 3 pulls and after warranty expired. Seemed that seal around motor leaked. No more Chinese cap for me.
-
I have a Superwinch EPi9 and it's
been a workhorse! Never one issue
in 3 1/2 years. Probably around 2
dozen pulls.
If I ever buy another winch I would
buy Superwinch again.
-
I've had 3 if the Suoerwinch epi9 and they are awesome, but they may not be available any more. They were built in the states and they are quite a bit more money. I would take a chance on their low cost winch because they stand being their products.
-
I have had countless pulls with my xrc8 and it has never let me down.
-
I've read about some forum members lose out on the lower priced winches pretty bad, as in totally stuck in mud, pull out the winch and its non functional on the third use.
At the price point you want, you may wish to look at the warranty of the product more, and the store you buy it from, if they will give you an immediate replacement. I would go with a local shop that has a direct relationship with Rugged Ridge. Rugged Ridge is local and has pretty strong warranties so take a look. Handling synthetic rope is much easier as well. That said there are people running on Smittybilt and RR winches for a long time so ....
Price for value I would try to find a used Warn M8000, but thats very hard to find.
-
I have had a warren 9500 winch for the last 14years and have used it a lot a real lot! I would save your money and ride with the club till you have enough for a good one. If you spend the money for a good one you will never have to replace it. JMO
-
I've had 3 if the Suoerwinch epi9 and they are awesome, but they may not be available any more. They were built in the states and they are quite a bit more money. I would take a chance on their low cost winch because they stand being their products.
That model is not available anymore. I think the Tiger Shark took it's place. Sounds like the same design though from what I read.
-
Well that's two for Rugged Ridge. I will check them out. Sounds like Engo is out. I saw the Smittybilt and wondered if they were any good.
I agree with you mrmike, but even if I saved up that kind of money I am not sure I could part with it on a winch. Seems like a ton of money to spend on something you use every now and then. At the same time, when you need it to work....you don't want to find out your winch took a dump on you.
-
My RR has done great. used it alot on the last trip, still working.
-
I have a superwinch Talon 9.5i SR. I love my winch, wouldn't trade it. I've had it for about 6 months; a dozen or so pulls and no issues. It's fast too. I also run it off my stock battery with no issues. I did a significant amount of research on winches before buying mine. I started a thread about my winch buying process you may find helpful.
http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=11890.0 (http://www.gatrailriders.com/GTRForums/index.php?topic=11890.0)
-
Looks like Rugged Ridge and Superwinch are looking like a winner for the price range. I did see a Warn VR8000 for $480 shipped. Is the VR8000 any good?
-
Once you go that high go for a full Warn like the M8000. It will pull more than 8000. Check it on amazon very good price. Then later add the synthetic line.
-
Opinion alert: VR series still china sourced winch. I would go RR over that and rely on warranty with local shop like Allsouth. /End Opinion. 1st post did ask for opinions //;D//
-
My smitty has gotten me out of some tight jams. Its the only one Ive had thus far but so far so good for a solid $300 winch. Crappy thing is so much to choose from but I guess thats one of the things that draws us all to building these rigs.
-
My son Matt has a Smitty. He's had it for a couple years now. I can't say how good it is he has never had to pull himself out of the mall parking lot!!! //LMAO// //LMAO// //LMAO//
-
Opinion alert: VR series still china sourced winch. I would go RR over that and rely on warranty with local shop like Allsouth. /End Opinion. 1st post did ask for opinions //;D//
Yes I asked for opinions and I definitely appreciate the great information I am getting here from you experienced offroaders. You guys have been very helpful.
-
Once you go that high go for a full Warn like the M8000. It will pull more than 8000. Check it on amazon very good price. Then later add the synthetic line.
That is not a bad price for a Warn M8000. $556 plus free shipping. That might be worth saving up another $250 and getting that one.
-
I haven't read all of the posts, but I would definitely recommend going ahead with a synthetic rope.
Not trying to plug, but we sell a ton of the Engo 9000S = $400 (Delivered to your door step).
Okay plug over :)
-
I know there is a lot of praise for synthetic rope and I can't speak for it personally because I have never used it. But I did work for a wrecker company for 5 years and never had a problem with steel cable breaking. I always got irritated when I got there to work and the previous driver had left the cable all rat nested up. I would have to reel it all off and re-spool it nice and neat. If you keep steel cable spooled up nice and neat it pulls out with ease. I know everyone knows this already but I guess I am just saying this because I personally do not have a problem with steel cable. I will go synthetic at some point but for cost reasons I will probably buy a winch with steel cable for now.
-
I haven't read all of the posts, but I would definitely recommend going ahead with a synthetic rope.
Not trying to plug, but we sell a ton of the Engo 9000S = $400 (Delivered to your door step).
Okay plug over :)
Although $400 is not bad for a winch with synthetic cable (referring to my last post). What kind of warranty is offered on the Engo 9000S?
-
Opinions on this one (comes with a free cover):
http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194 (http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194)
-
Opinions on this one (comes with a free cover):
http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194 (http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194)
2 year warranty on electrical is a plus as is synthetic rope.
-
Opinions on this one (comes with a free cover):
http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194 (http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194)
I have seen a ton of people pull with the Smittybuilt XRC's and I've never seen one fail. I had one on my TJ and it worked perfectly
That price for the 9.5 and syn line is damn hard to beat
-
The Smittybuilt looks pretty good to me. I have to figure out how to get it without the wife knowing I dropped $400+ on a winch...
-
Get stuck with her in the jeep, then say " if I only had a winch"
Worth a try anyway! Ha ha
-
Haha that would work
-
Get stuck with her in the jeep, then say " if I only had a winch"
Worth a try anyway! Ha ha
Getting her to ride with me would be more of a chore than just going ahead and getting the winch and asking for forgiveness later...
-
Alright, not sure exactly how soon I will pull the trigger on the purchase of a winch but I believe I am going to go with the Smittybilt XRC 9.5 GEN 2. Still debating steel line or synthetic. Price is the deciding factor on that.
Reasons for deciding on the Smittybilt XRC 9.5 GEN 2:
Lifetime mechanical warranty
2 Year electrical warranty
Waterproof up to 1 meter (3 feet) if I understand the IP67 rating correctly
Free winch cover with purchase
Price for what you get
-
My smitty has been great. I went with the X20. I do wish very much that I had synthetic and will be switching it out soon. My only other complaint is that it's a little on the slow side.
-
My smitty has been great. I went with the X20. I do wish very much that I had synthetic and will be switching it out soon. My only other complaint is that it's a little on the slow side.
I have not heard anything bad about them so far. I don't feel I can go wrong with it.
-
I have to figure out how to get it without the wife knowing I dropped $400+ on a winch...
Talk to Raisenhead
-
Never had a problem with my RR 8500.
-
I haven't read all of the posts, but I would definitely recommend going ahead with a synthetic rope.
Not trying to plug, but we sell a ton of the Engo 9000S = $400 (Delivered to your door step).
Okay plug over :)
Although $400 is not bad for a winch with synthetic cable (referring to my last post). What kind of warranty is offered on the Engo 9000S?
Limited lifetime warranty on mechanical
components with a 1-Year warranty on electrical components.
The RR and Smitty are good options too.
-
I have to figure out how to get it without the wife knowing I dropped $400+ on a winch...
Talk to Raisenhead
Lol, MMSP ftw
-
Smittybuilt XRC 10k on mine... Used a dozen times and never failed... Only complaint I have with version 1 is it faded and looks like its 10yrs old when it's only 2.... Version 2 is supposed to weather better...
-
I've got a previous gen smitty xrc8 with synthetic line and love it other than the fading issue mentioned above.
-
I have to figure out how to get it without the wife knowing I dropped $400+ on a winch...
Talk to Raisenhead
Alright. Is he the hook up for winches?
-
I have to figure out how to get it without the wife knowing I dropped $400+ on a winch...
Talk to Raisenhead
Alright. Is he the hook up for winches?
nope
He has a way for you to afford your jeep goodies without going through the wife.
-
I have to figure out how to get it without the wife knowing I dropped $400+ on a winch...
Talk to Raisenhead
Alright. Is he the hook up for winches?
nope
He has a way for you to afford your jeep goodies without going through the wife.
Haha, this information is too sensitive for the internet.
-
Well, I hinted around to the wife today about the winch. She said get it, she doesn't care. Best thing is I threw out the hint about the Smitty with the synthetic rope! hehehe....
Fixing to pull the trigger on a new winch ;)
-
Major trap
-
Nice
-
Major trap
Yep. I see new kitchen cabinets in your future.
I know my soft doors cost me dining room chairs.
All good though, you got to pay to play
-
Major trap
You know it is!
-
Major trap
Yep. I see new kitchen cabinets in your future.
I know my soft doors cost me dining room chairs.
All good though, you got to pay to play
Yeah, it more than likely will be new carpet and flooring throughout the house. That's what she is wanting. That is fine with me.
-
All good though, you got to pay to play
yep yep
-
Major trap
Yep. I see new kitchen cabinets in your future.
I know my soft doors cost me dining room chairs.
All good though, you got to pay to play
Yeah, it more than likely will be new carpet and flooring throughout the house. That's what she is wanting. That is fine with me.
You sure you want to use the winch on this one? You may be able to go bigger if you are trading floors.
-
Major trap
Yep. I see new kitchen cabinets in your future.
I know my soft doors cost me dining room chairs.
All good though, you got to pay to play
Yeah, it more than likely will be new carpet and flooring throughout the house. That's what she is wanting. That is fine with me.
You sure you want to use the winch on this one? You may be able to go bigger if you are trading floors.
lol, I hear you. Yeah, I could probably get another stock cherokee for what the flooring will cost. I need a few other things so I may throw them in with the deal //;D//
-
Glad to hear about the winch! You should definitely make this an even trade... sounds like a full suspension lift or exo-cage is in your immediate future. //smoke//
-
Definitely go with rope whichever winch you buy.
Safety is the number one reason.
If the winch doesn't come with rope then I'd recommend getting rope with a thimble rather than a hook.
-
Definitely go with rope whichever winch you buy.
Safety is the number one reason.
If the winch doesn't come with rope then I'd recommend getting rope with a thimble rather than a hook.
Yep, got the synthetic rope winch. Smittybilt 9.5. $427 shipped to my door with a free cover. Regular price was $449 but the web site said "We give deep discounts, just give us a call". So I did and asked them what that was about and the guy said they have some leeway on prices so he knocked off $22.
I was like cool! Should be delivered by Friday.
-
Who did you order it from?
-
Who did you order it from?
http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194 (http://4wheelonline.com/Smittybilt_XRC_9500k_Winch_Syn_Rope.243725.1568194)
-
Winch came today! Now I gotta figure out how to mount it. Can't decide if I want to just buy a winch plate and make it work or modify my bumper to make it fit. Things that make you go hmmm...
-
From your pic it seems that you just need to drill your bumper with the bolt pattern of the winch?
-
Just be sure the bumper has more than the stock 3 bolts holding it on each side. If so, it will rip right off.
-
Just be sure the bumper has more than the stock 3 bolts holding it on each side. If so, it will rip right off.
What vehicle is this going on?
-
An XJ.
-
From your pic it seems that you just need to drill your bumper with the bolt pattern of the winch?
It is a custom made bumper by me but at the time I built it I did not think I would get a winch...famous last words right?
Anyway, the top of the bumper is only 3 inches so it is too narrow for a winch at the moment. I can either buy a winch mounting plate and modify it slightly to make it a complete bolt on deal or I can take my bumper off and modify it to accommodate a winch by doing a little cutting and welding in a winch tray.
Another option is to just weld in a square tube for a hitch and use one of those winch cradles. I could use it on front or back that way. And also I keep it stored out of the weather when not in use.
-
Just be sure the bumper has more than the stock 3 bolts holding it on each side. If so, it will rip right off.
It is a custom bumper with the long brackets going back on the frame with 5 or 6 bolts per side and also tied in to the front with some angle brackets and bolts. If it tears off the whole Jeep is totaled!
-
It's usual to have a separate winch plate that bolts to the frame, not the bumper. The plate needs to be stiff enough not to flex during a pull, otherwise the frame of the winch can crack.