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Title: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 05, 2014, 05:04:51 PM
So after about 7 months of trying to sell my Jeep, I'm hoping I have a solid deal about to go through. The Jeep may be heading out to Cali in the coming weeks. This has left me with a question of what to replace it with. If I learned something with this Jeep it was- 1) Never buy a brand new vehicle and take it in the woods 2) Let someone else take the hit on the major $$ build items and pick them up for pennies on the dollar. If the deal goes through soon enough, I may be pulling the trigger on this built FJ out in Texas. Long travel front, icon piggyback shocks, Marlin "leftie" crawler case, full skids, "tummy tuck", 35" pitbulls, 40,000 lumens of sunlight, and the most important part- not a perfect paint job that I am afraid to take through the woods. I guess if I get this I will actually have to learn to drive lines instead of steamrolling over things with the 42's. Hopefully I will be able to come out with you guys more if I get this.

Oh yeah, the stickers would be coming off....



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Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: jgerhard on December 05, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
Interesting choice, how much suspension up/down travel does it get?
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 05, 2014, 05:25:58 PM
Enough for where I would want to go. I can't remember the exact number but it somewhere in his 100 page build thread. I am wanting to say 12 inches of travel in the front and 16-18 inches of travel in the rear if memory serves me correctly. I could be way off though. It's been all over Moab so that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 05, 2014, 05:31:19 PM
Moab is easy compared to the SE.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: kvom on December 05, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
IFS front axles can pose serious recovery problems if they break far away from your trailer.

For what we do I'd get a solid front axle.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 05, 2014, 05:55:45 PM
Wanting to go with something different.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: jgerhard on December 05, 2014, 06:40:18 PM
Thats cool it sure does look great as it is setup now.  2 FJs in the club will keep the Lytles's company!  Aside from that Will can't say you drive a rock limo, or maybe he will anyway. 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Raisinhead on December 05, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
They seem wide. Too lazy to google it though.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Raisinhead on December 05, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Supercharged 4 Seater Rock Crawler Buggy 2012
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/snw/4739840626.html

This is still different
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BlueJew on December 05, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Lesson #3 is that nothing beats a wrangler and people usually figure that out when the drive another platform.  Good luck but since you have had a taste of the true blood, it's almost certain that you will find your way back to the wranglers.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 05, 2014, 07:48:45 PM
Lesson #3 is that nothing beats a wrangler and people usually figure that out when the drive another platform.  Good luck but since you have had a taste of the true blood, it's almost certain that you will find your way back to the wranglers.

Haha. That may be true but if I got another Wrangler it would be so similar that I would always be comparing it to my current Jeep and I really don't want that. Need a change of pace. I'll drink the water from the other side for a while.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: cru9 on December 05, 2014, 08:30:47 PM
Pretty cool. There are a ton of stickers
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 05, 2014, 08:37:45 PM
Buy a used Wrangler and leave the FJ at the mall. 

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/vehicles-sale/374298-crackrock-sale-new-price-28k.html (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/vehicles-sale/374298-crackrock-sale-new-price-28k.html)
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: clark123456 on December 05, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
You had a JK wrangler...get a TJ.

- Torg

Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 05, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
Wanting a trail only rig or street use. If trail only there is a sweet rig on pirate I love that looks like a jeep. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1841953
Title: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: tcdawg on December 05, 2014, 09:29:39 PM
I think it looks like a blast. Go for it!!

Everybody has a wrangler these days...
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Danny Kinder on December 05, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
The sticker on the windshield says it all ;)
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Scott F. on December 05, 2014, 10:29:49 PM
I have never driven an FJ cruiser but I hear some complain about visibility both front and rear.

Oh, did you ever sell that Tacoma you had?
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 05, 2014, 11:10:58 PM
Tacoma is gone.

Looking for a daily that can still have fun on trails

Thought about a TJ but it has small back seats and it's still a Jeep. Not that that is bad, just want to have something different. I know SA beats IFS in most situations, it just looks like a fun ride and I like changing it up. Plus you guys need more FJ's in the group :)
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: 94xjsport94 on December 06, 2014, 01:10:19 AM
As someone with a lot of stickers, that's an assload of stickers.

I don't think the rear has 16-18" of travel. Other than IFS, I like it.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 06, 2014, 01:14:05 AM
As someone with a lot of stickers, that's an assload of stickers.

I don't think the rear has 16-18" of travel. Other than IFS, I like it.
That's a lot of travel without a linked rear with longer shocks.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: cru9 on December 06, 2014, 06:28:32 AM
I say buy it wheel it and if you don't like sell it.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 06, 2014, 09:36:06 AM
Why do you want a completely different brand rather than just a different build? 

There are strong reasons the JK and TJ are so popular.  They work and have a huge amount of after market support.

If you have common parts, folks can help with tools and spares and knowledge when you break.  With this rig most of that is not available.

Be different by you and your build and your wheeling style.  Unique is hard to care for and hard to sell unless really cheap.

Having a convertible that the doors come off of easily is huge for us.  Jeep only events are fun to. 

If you crush this hard top or bust out windows you will repair it and it will cost.  Wheeling is much more open and smooth in Texas and Moab.  Less  jagged rocks and trees.

Just advice, and you are different, but i wouldn't go near this for the reasons I've mentioned. 

If I had to be different, I would go LJ custom build route.  Rarest of the jeeps and bad arse.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 06, 2014, 09:39:50 AM
From full stuff to this at full droop. Comparing the gap to the tire size, 16" looks believable.

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Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Blue J on December 06, 2014, 12:46:00 PM
sounds like you've already decided that your going to get an FJ. If not this one then perhaps another. I ran into limitations with mods when I owned the Ridgeline. As far as different I hear Ford is reintroducing the Bronco  http://www.leblogauto.com/2013/12/troller-t4-2014.html/troller-1 (http://www.leblogauto.com/2013/12/troller-t4-2014.html/troller-1)

although to me it looks like a jeep.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 06, 2014, 12:57:19 PM
Yeah, I've already to committed to the guy to buy pending the Jeep sale. There are cheaper ways to go, and most likely more capable, but something about it is just calling my name.
Title: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: tcdawg on December 06, 2014, 09:07:39 PM
Just don't get a Land Rover.

9 minutes and he never did. Make it over

Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: kent10sne1 on December 07, 2014, 09:19:01 AM
Lol too funny
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Lytles_fjc on December 07, 2014, 11:20:18 AM
First off, hell yeah, another FJ! Secondly, Danny and I have read about and watched videos of the "crackrock" rig for a few years now and it has ran some pretty gnarly trails and kicked a$$ at it. Thirdly, the leave it at the mall comment, I've seen some pretty shiny jeeps with bling rocking the mall crawler scene so don't even go there. No one has had a legitimate reason he shouldn't get it, just nitpicking at it. Fj's are capable and there are parts for them every where.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: clark123456 on December 07, 2014, 11:54:53 AM
Morgan, the ifs potential issues and cost of body damage repair concerns are real.  That isn't nitpicking. 

I just wish it was an FJ 40.

It appears that for his level of desired wheeling, the modern fj will work. Now I want to see it in action!

- Torg

Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Jango on December 07, 2014, 08:28:55 PM
You could buy the old FJ at Allsouth (if its still available) and build that and that would different and extremely cool! The FJ you chose is sweet looking though.  //SLAMIN//
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: OscarMike2.0 on December 08, 2014, 01:01:45 AM
You could buy the old FJ at Allsouth (if its still available) and build that and that would different and extremely cool! The FJ you chose is sweet looking though.  //SLAMIN//
Yeah I recall there was a pretty sweet white fj for sale at allsouth for I think 9,000 and you could build that if its still there
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Raisinhead on December 08, 2014, 07:21:07 AM

You could buy the old FJ at Allsouth (if its still available) and build that and that would different and extremely cool! The FJ you chose is sweet looking though.  //SLAMIN//
Yeah I recall there was a pretty sweet white fj for sale at allsouth for I think 9,000 and you could build that if its still there

It's gone.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 08, 2014, 07:30:16 AM
First off, hell yeah, another FJ! Secondly, Danny and I have read about and watched videos of the "crackrock" rig for a few years now and it has ran some pretty gnarly trails and kicked a$$ at it. Thirdly, the leave it at the mall comment, I've seen some pretty shiny jeeps with bling rocking the mall crawler scene so don't even go there. No one has had a legitimate reason he shouldn't get it, just nitpicking at it. Fj's are capable and there are parts for them every where.


A used Rubicon (pick any year) with a 3.5" lift and 35's would 'most likely' leave that FJ in the dust.  I could be wrong, it actually happened once.  The point that people are making isn't that the FJ is bad, it's just not a platform that lends itself to easy modifications for more difficult trails.  And when you break it, which it will break, it's going to cost you a hellava lot more to fix. 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: jgerhard on December 08, 2014, 08:08:56 AM
Looking for the right emoticon, can't find one?
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 08, 2014, 08:44:38 AM
Just don't get a Land Rover.

9 minutes and he never did. Make it over

http://youtu.be/w-g7Qswr_ho (http://youtu.be/w-g7Qswr_ho)

My wife has had two LR3's - her favorite vehicle she has ever owned.  Just wouldn't own one out of warranty and it definitely wouldn't leave the street.

There was one feature on the selectable 4WD system that I wish they would incorporate into the Wrangler.  It had a Rock Crawling mode (yeah, I know) that change the rate of the accelerator pedal.  It would take a 1/2" of travel in RC mode to equate to 1/4" of travel in normal mode.  The idea is that you can ease the throttle better.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 08, 2014, 09:32:29 AM
Just don't get a Land Rover.

9 minutes and he never did. Make it over

http://youtu.be/w-g7Qswr_ho (http://youtu.be/w-g7Qswr_ho)

My wife has had two LR3's - her favorite vehicle she has ever owned.  Just wouldn't own one out of warranty and it definitely wouldn't leave the street.

There was one feature on the selectable 4WD system that I wish they would incorporate into the Wrangler.  It had a Rock Crawling mode (yeah, I know) that change the rate of the accelerator pedal.  It would take a 1/2" of travel in RC mode to equate to 1/4" of travel in normal mode.  The idea is that you can ease the throttle better.

That is on my JKU auto when in 4wd low as part of the drive by wire.  They started that in 07 or 08.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 08, 2014, 09:33:37 AM
Just don't get a Land Rover.

9 minutes and he never did. Make it over

http://youtu.be/w-g7Qswr_ho (http://youtu.be/w-g7Qswr_ho)

My wife has had two LR3's - her favorite vehicle she has ever owned.  Just wouldn't own one out of warranty and it definitely wouldn't leave the street.

There was one feature on the selectable 4WD system that I wish they would incorporate into the Wrangler.  It had a Rock Crawling mode (yeah, I know) that change the rate of the accelerator pedal.  It would take a 1/2" of travel in RC mode to equate to 1/4" of travel in normal mode.  The idea is that you can ease the throttle better.

That is on my JKU auto when in 4wd low.  they started that in 07 or 08.

I don't notice the difference.  Hmmmm
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 08, 2014, 01:17:20 PM
It's all a dead point now. The ya-hoo that agreed to buy the Jeep at a price HE suggested backed out last night saying that price was out of his budget. Make sure something is in your budget before throwing out a big number and agreeing to buy it. I hate selling stuff......
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 08, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
It's all a dead point now. The ya-hoo that agreed to buy the Jeep at a price HE suggested backed out last night saying that price was out of his budget. Make sure something is in your budget before throwing out a big number and agreeing to buy it. I hate selling stuff......

Sorry to hear that.  I normally require $500 or $1000 unrefundable deposit before considering a vehicle sold.  Otherwise, it goes to the first person that has the money.  I've dealt with people like that in the past.

When I sold my 911 last year, a guy sent me a $500 deposit and backed out of the deal.  I was having seller's remorse once it was sold and wanted to keep it.  The guy told me to keep the $500 but I told him that I really wanted to keep the car and sent it back to him.  LOL - changed my mind 2 months later and sold it anyway. 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: clark123456 on December 08, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
^ that's some golden rule stuff there...Good stuff

- Torg

Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 08, 2014, 03:04:15 PM
Dang... bummer. 

Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: jgerhard on December 08, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
God is telling you to keep the Jeep
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 08, 2014, 03:44:11 PM
It does look purty all shined up

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Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 08, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
It does look purty all shined up

Dude, if you sell that and get an FJ, you have no choice to shred your man-card.  //LMAO//

EDIT:  Just realized this is the 10A for sale on JKO.  Damn that's nice. 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 08, 2014, 03:50:45 PM
One thing was driving that decision- FJ was half the price of my sale price of the Jeep.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: BigMike on December 08, 2014, 03:54:02 PM
One thing was driving that decision- FJ was half the price of my sale price of the Jeep.

I hear you.  I have just barely under $50k in my '14 JKR and I know there will be another $10k going it in over the next 3 years.  But it will be paid for by then and no longer be my daily driver.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 08, 2014, 04:31:40 PM
If it was auto I would trade ya with boot!
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: jd30005 on December 08, 2014, 04:47:32 PM
It does look purty all shined up
It's an awesome rig.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: tcdawg on December 08, 2014, 06:07:59 PM

If it was auto I would trade ya with boot!

I would have beat you to it.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 08, 2014, 06:25:52 PM

If it was auto I would trade ya with boot!

I would have beat you to it.

Pshhhhtt, everyone knows that real men drive manuals :)

In all seriousness though, I take y'all's comments as a huge compliment.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 08, 2014, 06:41:53 PM
You should.  We like the build, and only a crazy % of the population can balance the clutch when vertical and off camber on a cliff. 

 //toast//
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: clark123456 on December 08, 2014, 07:08:54 PM
What is the current bottom dollar price on Bane? 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 08, 2014, 07:46:24 PM
You would be amazed at some of the stupid trade offers I have received but my bottom dollar is $50k. I have had two serious takers at that price and they both backed out just before they booked travel arrangements.
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: clark123456 on December 08, 2014, 08:57:05 PM
You would be amazed at some of the stupid trade offers I have received but my bottom dollar is $50k. I have had two serious takers at that price and they both backed out just before they booked travel arrangements.

I have a broken bass boat, a travel trailer with a flat tire, and a TJ (probably with two flat tires)...wanna trade straight up?  :)

Some people just test you to see how desperate you are.  You would probably be amazed at what some people have offered for trade...and succeeded. 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 09, 2014, 12:50:57 PM
You would be amazed at some of the stupid trade offers I have received but my bottom dollar is $50k. I have had two serious takers at that price and they both backed out just before they booked travel arrangements.

I have a broken bass boat, a travel trailer with a flat tire, and a TJ (probably with two flat tires)...wanna trade straight up?  :)

Some people just test you to see how desperate you are.  You would probably be amazed at what some people have offered for trade...and succeeded. 

Yeah, I've had some cool trade offers, but I need the cash back out of it. The main reason for me pressing to sell it was to free up some money since we are closing on a new house later this month in Canton.

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Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: kvom on December 09, 2014, 03:35:35 PM
Or is it because the lift makes it too tall to get into those garage doors?   //LMAO//
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: DOUG on December 09, 2014, 03:53:11 PM
Awesome looking place.  I know you're proud of it. 
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: PyratM on December 09, 2014, 04:49:09 PM
Or is it because the lift makes it too tall to get into those garage doors?   //LMAO//

Yep. Won't fit :(
Title: Re: May be getting into something more trail friendly
Post by: Jango on December 09, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
I think you should look into a house with this kind of floor plan..

but if the family doesn't agree, then that house works too.

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