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MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grant.Monty on December 11, 2014, 07:52:37 PM
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Hey guys and gals,
Has anyone out there used por15 on their jeep? I am wondering if it is any good. Also is there any way you can apply it to the frame without taking the whole tub off? (I am asking this because I am only 16 and my parents won't let me take the tub off)
Thanks, Grant
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Hi grant, i'm not sure... what model jeep do you have? Maybe someone here can help, but you should try jeepforum.com as well.
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I have an '02 TJ Sahara
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POR 15 is a great product. You can brush it on, so no need to remove the tub. Can't really say I blame your parents for that one //OLDSKOOL//
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Just like in The Waterboy, "what momma don't know won't hurt her".
Parents don't always know best and the best way to learn is to just do something. So, get them to go away for a weekend and then do it.
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Hi grant, i'm not sure... what model jeep do you have? Maybe someone here can help, but you should try jeepforum.com as well.
And I already posted on the forum and they said it was good but no one told me if I have to take the frame off or not.
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POR 15 is a great product. You can brush it on, so no need to remove the tub. Can't really say I blame your parents for that one //OLDSKOOL//
How much do you think I need to do the whole frame?
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I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
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I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
One question, did you use their prep setup with the marine wash and metal prep spray?
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I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
One question, did you use their prep setup with the marine wash and metal prep spray?
I used both those products on an axle. I wasn't overly impressed with either one....I would just use a good degreaser and then wash and rinse well.
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I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
This. I painted the bottom of 3 2500lb bread dough mixers with it at work to prevent rust and corrosion. Great product.
I just like rattle cans on the Jeep though.
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I used one quart and it did my whole frame. No need to take the tub off, brush it on and around any body mounts or other items in the way. Tape off anything you don't want it to get on (body mount bushings, e brake cable, etc).
Two recommendations
1. Wear long pants, long sleeves, hat, gloves, and preferable a respirator if you have one. The fumes are pretty strong and if it gets on your skin you will have fun trying to get it off.
2. I did mine when it was in a grass back yard so I didn't worry about drips, but if you do it in say your parents garage make sure you throw a tarp or cardboard or something down.
It is not UV resistant so the spots that see direct sunlight will need to be top coated with spray paint or something else. Also is goes on thick but I found it has a tendency to peel and flake off after time. That may be related to the the UV on mine though bc I didn't put anything over top of it. It's a messy job but once you get under there and get going it will go quick. Plan on using the whole container once you open it.
Now that's some good detailed info.
Does his stuff go over rust and stop it?
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Now that's some good detailed info.
Does his stuff go over rust and stop it?
From what I noticed on my frame where it peeled up or was scraped off from rock rash, the best way I would describe it is it "encapsulates" the rust. I cleaned it with the marine clean (which like Tony said wasn't anything special) knocked off the heavy rust and then brushed over the light surface rust. The rust was still there when the POR peeled. Seemed like it bonded to the rust and sealed it off.
To the OP, you said it was an 02, so unless it is heavily rusted like it came from up north I would probably just use regular paint. You can buy rustoleum or other brands in quarts instead of rattle cans so you could brush it on and not have to worry about overspray all over the bottom of the tub.
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Make sure frame is completely dry, and try to remove any grease. Make sure no water/sweat gets into the paint during application.
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Now that's some good detailed info.
Does his stuff go over rust and stop it?
From what I noticed on my frame where it peeled up or was scraped off from rock rash, the best way I would describe it is it "encapsulates" the rust. I cleaned it with the marine clean (which like Tony said wasn't anything special) knocked off the heavy rust and then brushed over the light surface rust. The rust was still there when the POR peeled. Seemed like it bonded to the rust and sealed it off.
To the OP, you said it was an 02, so unless it is heavily rusted like it came from up north I would probably just use regular paint. You can buy rustoleum or other brands in quarts instead of rattle cans so you could brush it on and not have to worry about overspray all over the bottom of the tub.
Yeah, I am just looking for a way to prevent rust.
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I think POR 15 would be overkill for rust prevention. Rust-oleum has some much cheaper products for lightly rusted surfaces, or to prevent rust from forming.
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Are the tubs and/or frames galvanized starting with the TJ?
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Are the tubs and/or frames galvanized starting with the TJ?
I think the frames are
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Does anyone think the rustoleum protective enamel will work
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Does anyone think the rustoleum protective enamel will work
yes. If you spray, mask everything off well. If you brush, I recommend using a roller on the larger sections to get a smoother looking finish.
*Prep work is critical to a successful paint job. Clean and degrease thoroughly
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yes. If you spray, mask everything off well. If you brush, I recommend using a roller on the larger sections to get a smoother looking finish.
*Prep work is critical to a successful paint job. Clean and degrease thoroughly
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this ^^^ prep is most important, but at the same time NOTHING will stand up to a 4500lb rig getting drug over rocks. not even the almighty powdercoat. Best and easiest way to prep is to go to your local parts house and ask for a couple "red" scuff pads, they are very abrasive, so dont hit anything you dont want to scratch. Get under the rig with a hose and a bottle of dawn dish detergent and scuff like theres no tomorrow, then when you think you are done, go over all of it again, then you should be good. If you use the POR, just go at it, but if you are going to rattle can it, get a product that either says "etching" or "direct to metal" either of these will bite into the surface and make your topcoat of whatever color you choose last a lil longer. Use light coats too, this is where everyone screws up, dont get in a hurry, take your time. If the tub thing still bothers you, ask your dad or parents or whatever if you can just unbolt the tub and lift it far enough up to get a lil more room. Good luck
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Last question, does anyone know how to clean the inside of the frame? I am finding a lot of dirt and sand in there.
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Last question, does anyone know how to clean the inside of the frame? I am finding a lot of dirt and sand in there.
Never heard that question before. Why?
Can you give us some history of the Jeep?
Does it need of this?
It should be rust resistant for ever in the south.
Did it come from the North?
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Last question, does anyone know how to clean the inside of the frame? I am finding a lot of dirt and sand in there.
Never heard that question before. Why?
Can you give us some history of the Jeep?
Does it need of this?
It should be rust resistant for ever in the south.
Did it come from the North?
Well first I stuck my finger in the hole in the frame it, & I found a lot of dirt and sand . The previous owner hunted with it in Texas and that's how I think all the dirt and sand got in there. I'm not sure if it is it's a big deal or not I'm just trying to be cautious,
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I have run a ton of water through my frame before, but you will never get it completely clean. Just accept that mud trapped there will turn to dirt trapped there and then that will add weight.
- Torg
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Yeah like Clark i would put the hose to it and try to flush it out.... maybe park nose up on a hill and then nose down... with as much volume of water as you can. Unless it has been in the road salt in the northern winters it should last you a very long time.
And you're going to want to do a few mud holes an creek crossings with us in a couple of years and its going to get in there then too.
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I have used the Por15 on my Chevelle and Camaro. Personally, I think it is amazing, but prep is the major key. As Tony said the marine clean isn't all that but the metal prep is key. It's an acidic base that will etch the metal for adhesion. The prep stops rust and the paint completely seals the rust from the air which prevents it from rusting further. If your not contending with a rusted out frame not, save some coin and do the rattle can.
Here is a tip, for easy masking of your body mounts and brake lines, use tin foil. it allows you to wrap the part and no tape is needed. It is also good for odd shaped parts and conforms to any shape.
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X2 on the foil. I used it to paint the inside parts of my old cage.
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Great idea, thanks
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I found a product called KBS Paints and it looks pretty good. It is half the cost of POR15 and I have not heard any complaints about it. I may give that a try.
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How much is a quart of the KBS vs Por15?
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How much is a quart of the KBS vs Por15?
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I was looking at the whole kit that includes everything, but kbs is $10 cheaper than por15
From what it sounds like, not many people coat there frames with anything.
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$10 is a drop in the bucket when comparing a no name paint vs Por15. However that's just my opinion.
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