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Title: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: DOUG on December 26, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
This is not my Jeep. 

Be aware of this issue on 2012 and later JKs.

Not sure how close mine gets with a 3.8 but it appears to be much closer on the 3.6s.

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Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: cru9 on December 26, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
Wow that would suck.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: ranier1315 on December 26, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
from TNT's page for thier truss.

"** 2012' & Newer Models require 2" additional bumpstopping for proper truss to oil pan clearance**"
so aparently it is a known issue.

If you truss you'll be loosing the 2" of up travel to the truss.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: BigMike on December 26, 2014, 07:12:52 PM
What truss and what oil pan skid do you have Doug?
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 26, 2014, 07:56:35 PM
Properly check bump stops after suspension and some axle mods. I have seen that a lot lately. Pull the springs a d see if anything hits before the stops catch in, and then remember most bumpstops will still compress so factor that in as well.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: DOUG on December 26, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
That is not my jeep.

I have:

- 09' with 3.8 mini van motor.
- Full set of the River Raider skids
- Rubi 44 front with Artec truss kit
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: Scott F. on December 26, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
Looking at the damage to the pan it looks like pushing the axle forward a couple inches would provide the necessary clearance to avoid dropping the bumpstops 2"s

If that happened on the trail that made for a bad recovery.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: DOUG on December 26, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
Owner heard a click on the trail at compression for months but did not know what it was.  Looked and couldn't locate. 

Tightened everything, replaced joints, didn't see it and it went away.  Must have dented the pan.  Last ride it came back. 

Exiting trail onto hwy and hit a rut and heard it and smelled oil.

Said bumps had softened and deteriorated allowing the contact.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: BigMike on December 26, 2014, 10:41:01 PM
from TNT's page for thier truss.

"** 2012' & Newer Models require 2" additional bumpstopping for proper truss to oil pan clearance**"
so aparently it is a known issue.

If you truss you'll be loosing the 2" of up travel to the truss.

I guess that would depend on the brand skid and truss.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: Bruce on December 26, 2014, 11:25:09 PM
Side note on bump,stop clearance. I pull the to check full compression. Don't just count on how much you can compress them with a jack.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: 94xjsport94 on December 27, 2014, 01:46:57 AM

Side note on bump,stop clearance. I pull the spring  to check full compression. Don't just count on how much you can compress them with a jack.

FIFY

So 2" of bumps top should keep it from hitting?  I'm running 3" MC pucks right now.

Additional 2", so 2" than whatever you have pre install of the truss.
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: kent10sne1 on December 27, 2014, 08:22:05 AM
I don't know what I have I guess a trip to all south for them to give me the scope is in store for the new year. Yikes
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: DOUG on December 27, 2014, 08:30:21 AM
Flexing may miss it.  Most likely to hit when both fronts hit and compress at the same time.

The 2" is over stock bump stops if you just add a truss with no other suspension changes.  .

If you lift and install tall tires, they may hit before before the axle, but ideally you want the bump stops to prevent tires and anything from hitting.  Every lift and tire install should include new bump stop chrck and adjustment as necessary. 
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: BigMike on December 27, 2014, 02:32:57 PM
I guess I don't understand this thread.  Are you saying that installing an Artec truss will require more bump stop creating less up-travel?
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: clark123456 on December 27, 2014, 02:47:03 PM
I guess I don't understand this thread.  Are you saying that installing an Artec truss will require more bump stop creating less up-travel?

I interpret this thread to state that with the 3.6L engine, any front axle truss should be checked to make sure it does not interfere/interact/interface with the oil pan, especially under full suspension and bumpstop compression.  If the truss will touch the oil pan (or anything else), you should bump stop sufficiently to ensure it does not do so. 
Title: Re: Trussed JK Front Axle busted 3.6 Oil Pan
Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 27, 2014, 03:02:23 PM
I guess I don't understand this thread.  Are you saying that installing an Artec truss will require more bump stop creating less up-travel?
Can always build a smaller truss.