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Title: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 08, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Now that I'm changing company's I will be losing my company truck and now have the urgent need to go buy one.

It will either be an F-250 or Dodge 2500 4x4. From the looks of the prices I will be looking for something that is probably around 2 years old. Has anyone just recently done the homework and or bought one. Would like to hear the pro's and con's.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Mortalis5509 on June 08, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
The 250 6.7 are the new 7.3 from what I hear. My sister in law father has a 15' f250 and likes it a lot. In the 6.7 range there is the 11-14, 15-16, and looks like the 17' is a little different. They changed a few things on the 15' for the better. They have insta heat glow plugs so they turn over fast and real quite.

Now the 17' have all kinda cool things. Higher payload, fully boxed frame, rear door opens more than 90 degrees, and more power.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: jc79 on June 08, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
I can vouch for the Ram. Would definitely buy one again.


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: jd30005 on June 08, 2016, 08:51:03 PM
I love my 2014 RAM 2500 as well. I would but one again.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 08, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
Now that I'm changing company's I will be losing my company truck and now have the urgent need to go buy one.

It will either be an F-250 or Dodge 2500 4x4. From the looks of the prices I will be looking for something that is probably around 2 years old. Has anyone just recently done the homework and or bought one. Would like to hear the pro's and con's.

Well I bought my December of 14. 15 model.  I don't think much has changed.  The new 17 Ford is changing but not sure they're out yet.

I test drove top of the line on all of them -
I liked the Ram's get up and go better, I liked the interior better.  The price was also better.  The Ram was like driving a truck with luxury car comforts.  Don't know if I can go back to not having Heated seats and steering wheel automatically come on when it's cold.
I thought the Ford's interior was cheaper.  Too many different colors.  Felt much less luxurious. 

On the ram,  it's pulled great,  the exhaust brake is fantastic (earlier ford's do not have one - I can't remember what year the change was), I've had a few small things fixed under warranty but overall it's been 100% solid.

Don, are you talking diesel or gas? I test drove the ford turbo-diesel and that thing moved out pretty quick. I think the dodge I drove had the cummins, which will pull a house of its foundation, but didn't have any get up and go.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 08, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
You can read my review of the Ford, GM, and RAM in the tow pig section.  Ford sucked and was expensive; GM was awesome and expensive; ram was great and cheap.

Doug just recently went through this and I believe he found that it was nearly as cheap to buy new, as used.  The diesels do not drop like a rock, but the new prices sure do rise like they're inflated with helium.

Are you going diesel?

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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 08, 2016, 10:03:59 PM
Clark - I'm thinking diesel. Sherry has been bugging the shit out of me to have her own jeep, so I see a new trailer and the need to pull 2 jeeps in my future.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 08, 2016, 10:15:07 PM
You can read my review of the Ford, GM, and RAM in the tow pig section.  Ford sucked and was expensive; GM was awesome and expensive; ram was great and cheap.

Doug just recently went through this and I believe he found that it was nearly as cheap to buy new, as used.  The diesels do not drop like a rock, but the new prices sure do rise like they're inflated with helium.

Are you going diesel?

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That's what I'm seeing, the resale value on used trucks is nuts.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 08, 2016, 10:35:53 PM
Now that I'm changing company's I will be losing my company truck and now have the urgent need to go buy one.

It will either be an F-250 or Dodge 2500 4x4. From the looks of the prices I will be looking for something that is probably around 2 years old. Has anyone just recently done the homework and or bought one. Would like to hear the pro's and con's.

Well I bought my December of 14. 15 model.  I don't think much has changed.  The new 17 Ford is changing but not sure they're out yet.

I test drove top of the line on all of them -
I liked the Ram's get up and go better, I liked the interior better.  The price was also better.  The Ram was like driving a truck with luxury car comforts.  Don't know if I can go back to not having Heated seats and steering wheel automatically come on when it's cold.
I thought the Ford's interior was cheaper.  Too many different colors.  Felt much less luxurious. 

On the ram,  it's pulled great,  the exhaust brake is fantastic (earlier ford's do not have one - I can't remember what year the change was), I've had a few small things fixed under warranty but overall it's been 100% solid.

Don, are you talking diesel or gas? I test drove the ford turbo-diesel and that thing moved out pretty quick. I think the dodge I drove had the cummins, which will pull a house of its foundation, but didn't have any get up and go.

Diesel.  I won't do another gas truck. Hrmm I'm surprised.  The Dodge diesels can have a pedal lag but that's not all the time and I put in a throttle booster myself. (http://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-power-1057732-throttle-sensitivity-booster.aspx (http://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-power-1057732-throttle-sensitivity-booster.aspx))

I found the Ford to be a pig when I test drove it.  It was ok but the Ram moved better. 
Yep, the Ford was the slowest off the line, when I test drove them (and felt like driving a boat).  The GM was the fastest, but not fast enough to justify the extra cost.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: DOUG on June 08, 2016, 11:12:56 PM
I bought a used Duramax with 2900 miles. Looked for a year and finally found a smokin deal.

You should drive then all and decide for yourself.  I did and Ford was a definite no for me. The Ram was good and I was going to get one due to the 2015 model year end $11,000 off and Clarks was great going too Moab pulling a double, I found this Dmax the same day I was pulling the trigger.  I'm just not crazy about the Ram styling.

For me, the GM styling is more attractive than the Ram, and the Ford rode awful.  The Dmax is proven as is the Allison.

Just a personal preference.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: DOUG on June 08, 2016, 11:19:48 PM
I went to Ashville to pick mine up.

Use this

http://www.searchtempest.com/search?location=90001&maxDist=1000&region_us=1&search_string=Duramax&keytype=adv&Region=na&cityselect=zip&page=0&category=8&subcat=cta&minAsk=10000&maxAsk=20000&minYear=2012&maxYear=2015&fuel%5B%5D=diesel
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: BigMike on June 09, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
I'd have to drive all 3 before making any kind of decision, but would favor the Ford over the GM or RAM.  I could get the best deal on a GM or RAM but I've always liked the Ford Super Duty trucks.  I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3 and with proper maintenance, it should be the last truck you have to buy.  My wife wants an F250 diesel for her retirement vehicle (she's an equestrian girl) because she knows I'll always have other cars she can drive. 
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: BigMike on June 09, 2016, 09:54:51 AM
Oh and BTW, all 3 manufacturers have WAY too many trim levels.  Ford is the worst.  I remember when you bought a pick up truck the only options were AM, AM/FM, or AM/FM/Cassette.   //LMAO//
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: DOUG on June 09, 2016, 09:55:36 AM
I'd have to drive all 3 before making any kind of decision, but would favor the Ford over the GM or RAM.  I could get the best deal on a GM or RAM but I've always liked the Ford Super Duty trucks.  I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3 and with proper maintenance, it should be the last truck you have to buy.  My wife wants an F250 diesel for her retirement vehicle (she's an equestrian girl) because she knows I'll always have other cars she can drive. 

I found the Ford ride to be very hard.
The Ram was cush n the 2500 coil spring version.
The GM is in-between.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 09, 2016, 10:06:13 PM
I'd have to drive all 3 before making any kind of decision, but would favor the Ford over the GM or RAM.  I could get the best deal on a GM or RAM but I've always liked the Ford Super Duty trucks.  I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3 and with proper maintenance, it should be the last truck you have to buy.  My wife wants an F250 diesel for her retirement vehicle (she's an equestrian girl) because she knows I'll always have other cars she can drive.
I thought I was a Ford guy, until I drove it. 

Edit:  I was anti GM, until I drove it!


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: BigMike on June 10, 2016, 10:26:17 AM
I'd have to drive all 3 before making any kind of decision, but would favor the Ford over the GM or RAM.  I could get the best deal on a GM or RAM but I've always liked the Ford Super Duty trucks.  I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3 and with proper maintenance, it should be the last truck you have to buy.  My wife wants an F250 diesel for her retirement vehicle (she's an equestrian girl) because she knows I'll always have other cars she can drive. 

I found the Ford ride to be very hard.
The Ram was cush n the 2500 coil spring version.
The GM is in-between.

The Ford IS built for men.  //LMAO//
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 10, 2016, 01:08:17 PM
Supposedly the aluminum strategy is moving to the Superduty platforms... I hope Ford does a better job on the 250+s

http://www.chevytv.com/chevy-shows-how-silverados-steel-bed-outperforms-aluminum-bed/ (http://www.chevytv.com/chevy-shows-how-silverados-steel-bed-outperforms-aluminum-bed/)

STUPID DUCKING TEST!!!  Who in the hell would allow someone to do that to their truck!  Even the tool box test event seems unrealistic...I've never had that happen, but I also do not use my truck as a money maker.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Mortalis5509 on June 10, 2016, 01:14:22 PM
Supposedly the aluminum strategy is moving to the Superduty platforms... I hope Ford does a better job on the 250+s

http://www.chevytv.com/chevy-shows-how-silverados-steel-bed-outperforms-aluminum-bed/ (http://www.chevytv.com/chevy-shows-how-silverados-steel-bed-outperforms-aluminum-bed/)
With Clark on this one, who dumps crap like that in a 1/2 ton truck? Unrealistic test.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: kent10sne1 on June 10, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
I can see dons point on the tool box thing, but the other one..  90% of the truck beds i see are lined with some kind of liner which protects crap like that.. 

I would tend to lean toward clarks view, unless its your MoneyMakerTruk(business) not sure if its that big of a deal.   If when i ever buy a truck, im having a bed liner installed or sprayed on. 

just my lame .02     
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 10, 2016, 03:21:34 PM
I can remember when the Ferd guys would put out commercials about how bad the Tundra's bed would flex going over rumble strips...while probably true, who drives miles and miles over rumble strips?  It's all about marketing...nothing real world related to it at all. 

Now, if the Ferd, Yota, and GM guys would put out a commercial on the Ram's interior chrome blinding the driver...that would be a real world situation and maybe Ram would do something about it.  :)
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Jeepster1407 on June 10, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
plastidip it!
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 10, 2016, 03:30:49 PM
plastidip it!
I have the  spray on stuff on it now...it works, but it rubs away over time.  I would rather buy a quality matte finished plastic part, but I may have to pull the old stuff off and re-spray it.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Jeepster1407 on June 10, 2016, 03:56:14 PM
plastidip it!
I have the  spray on stuff on it now...it works, but it rubs away over time.  I would rather buy a quality matte finished plastic part, but I may have to pull the old stuff off and re-spray it.
If you have to pull it off and the plastidip isnt working you could try either hydrodipping or a diy vinyl wrap in matte black
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 10, 2016, 04:18:11 PM
Now, if the Ferd, Yota, and GM guys would put out a commercial on the Ram's interior chrome blinding the driver...that would be a real world situation and maybe Ram would do something about it.  :)

To quote someone, that would be a:

"STUPID DUCKING TEST!!!  Who in the hell would allow someone to do that to their truck! ...I've never had that happen"

:)
Lol!

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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 10, 2016, 05:30:41 PM
Taking a look at new dodge tonight. No chrome, it's all blacked out.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: tcdawg on June 10, 2016, 05:54:23 PM
Taking a look at new dodge tonight. No chrome, it's all blacked out.

Hell yes. Saw one like that in my parking deck.

Seriously bad ass
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 11, 2016, 10:07:24 PM
Taking a look at new dodge tonight. No chrome, it's all blacked out.
And?

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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 11, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
Taking a look at new dodge tonight. No chrome, it's all blacked out.
And?

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Weeeellllllll.......I went up there and they didn't have one. They had the 1500 all blacked out. Supposedly, they are looking for a 2500 and will call me when they find it.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 11, 2016, 11:51:53 PM
Taking a look at new dodge tonight. No chrome, it's all blacked out.
And?

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Weeeellllllll.......I went up there and they didn't have one. They had the 1500 all blacked out. Supposedly, they are looking for a 2500 and will call me when they find it.

I expected you to type something completely different than that! 
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: DOUG on June 12, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 13, 2016, 12:33:28 PM
If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Raisinhead on June 14, 2016, 08:00:38 AM
If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.

Seriously doubt it was an accident.  I had a bait and switch experience with my jeep that they blamed on their website not being updated.


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: jc79 on June 14, 2016, 10:32:56 AM

If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.

Seriously doubt it was an accident.  I had a bait and switch experience with my jeep that they blamed on their website not being updated.


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Sounds like you went there in search of a white one... And then, well, tan.


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Raisinhead on June 14, 2016, 10:39:03 AM

If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.

Seriously doubt it was an accident.  I had a bait and switch experience with my jeep that they blamed on their website not being updated.


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Sounds like you went there in search of a white one... And then, well, tan.


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Haha, not quite. Palmer had a tan one listed with pics on their site that had a budget lift, 35s, navigation. It was brand new and priced low. Test drove it, salesman confirmed price, manager told me price was listed incorrectly on their site. I called them out on it and they offered to let me choose any jeep on the lot for "their price". I took that number to Ed Voyles and asked to beat the price by a dollar and I'd buy from them that day. Done.

Sorry back to topic.


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: DOUG on June 14, 2016, 11:06:30 AM
I took that number to Ed Voyles and asked to beat the price by a dollar and I'd buy from them that day. Done.

 //LIKEBUTTON// //LIKEBUTTON// //LIKEBUTTON//
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 14, 2016, 11:25:07 AM

If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.

Seriously doubt it was an accident.  I had a bait and switch experience with my jeep that they blamed on their website not being updated.


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Sounds like you went there in search of a white one... And then, well, tan.


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Haha, not quite. Palmer had a tan one listed with pics on their site that had a budget lift, 35s, navigation. It was brand new and priced low. Test drove it, salesman confirmed price, manager told me price was listed incorrectly on their site. I called them out on it and they offered to let me choose any jeep on the lot for "their price". I took that number to Ed Voyles and asked to beat the price by a dollar on an off-white Jeep and I'd buy from them that day. Done.

Sorry back to topic.


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I can't tell what you fixed.
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: 8lugLJ on June 14, 2016, 02:38:21 PM

If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.

Seriously doubt it was an accident.  I had a bait and switch experience with my jeep that they blamed on their website not being updated.


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Sounds like you went there in search of a white one... And then, well, tan.


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Haha, not quite. Palmer had a tan one listed with pics on their site that had a budget lift, 35s, navigation. It was brand new and priced low. Test drove it, salesman confirmed price, manager told me price was listed incorrectly on their site. I called them out on it and they offered to let me choose any jeep on the lot for "their price". I took that number to Ed Voyles and asked to beat the price by a dollar on an off-white Jeep and I'd buy from them that day. Done.

Sorry back to topic.


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fify
I can't tell what you fixed.

rubber chicken somethin, peanut butter in his teeth somethin else.. all i heard was "Im Jay and i bought my Minivan at the Honda place  hehehe
Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 14, 2016, 02:54:55 PM

If they told me they had one, and then didn't, I would not go back to that dealer. Ftards. I find dealer sales people to be worthless 99% of the time.


I didn't talk to them before I went there. I checked out their website and they listed one in their inventory and apparently it was not up to date.

Seriously doubt it was an accident.  I had a bait and switch experience with my jeep that they blamed on their website not being updated.


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Sounds like you went there in search of a white one... And then, well, tan.


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Haha, not quite. Palmer had a tan one listed with pics on their site that had a budget lift, 35s, navigation. It was brand new and priced low. Test drove it, salesman confirmed price, manager told me price was listed incorrectly on their site. I called them out on it and they offered to let me choose any jeep on the lot for "their price". I took that number to Ed Voyles and asked to beat the price by a dollar on an off-white Jeep and I'd buy from them that day. Done.

Sorry back to topic.


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fify
I can't tell what you fixed.

rubber chicken somethin, peanut butter in his teeth somethin else.. all i heard was "Im Jay and i bought my Minivan at the Honda place  hehehe
Lol!

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Title: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Trailabite on June 25, 2016, 09:59:42 PM
Well, I guess the new truck will have to wait.

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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: jc79 on June 25, 2016, 10:23:14 PM
Nice!  Gonna be ready for Moab '17??


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: clark123456 on June 25, 2016, 10:35:07 PM
Awesome!  1 ton diesel and double trailer are still needed.

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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: Raisinhead on June 26, 2016, 01:04:56 AM
Sweet! Looks really nice!

I agree with Clark, double and a diesel


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Title: Re: Ford or Dodge
Post by: cru9 on June 26, 2016, 07:05:31 AM
Congrats.


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