Georgia Trail Riders Forum
MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sasquatch on March 03, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
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Taxes are coming back and the Jeep needs some love.
Here's the plan:
BDS 3" Suspension Lift
5 - 33" x 12.5" x 15" BFG MTR's
(rumor has it there could be some rocker guards in the works too) {woohoo}
Already talking with Albert up at 4wheel parts. He's going to sort me out as far as what I'm going to need to complete it. Any suggestions if I go the route of new wheels?
For the record... The LJ is still just as stock as it was at Tellico back in November. I like the Moab wheels that are on it but I'm not sure I can run the tires I want.
I know alot of you guys suggest armor before lift but with the baby hanging around I'm going asthetic first, but I should have the rest of the armor I'll need by the time I can get out ot the trail again.
I'm hanging on every word of the trail ride threads! Keep posting pics!!! {popcorn}
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BDS 3" Suspension Lift
5 - 33" x 12.5" x 15" BFG MTR's
Any suggestions if I go the route of new wheels?
going asthetic first, but I should have the rest of the armor I'll need by the time I can get out ot the trail again.
Don't forget you'll need a SYE (Slip yoke eliminator) and CV shaft with a 3" lift or bad vibes will haunt you!
BFG makes the KM2, and Goodyear makes the MTR's. I recommend the KM2's, but no bad choices here.
Wheels? Have Moab's now? Moabs are 16's, and you can run a lot of tire on them. You'll need some spacers behind the wheels to off set them to reduce/eliminate tire rub.
My KMC beadlocks would look great on that Unlimited!
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BDS 3" Suspension Lift
5 - 33" x 12.5" x 15" BFG MTR's
Any suggestions if I go the route of new wheels?
going asthetic first, but I should have the rest of the armor I'll need by the time I can get out ot the trail again.
Don't forget you'll need a SYE (Slip yoke eliminator) and CV shaft with a 3" lift or bad vibes will haunt you!
BFG makes the KM2, and Goodyear makes the MTR's. I recommend the KM2's, but no bad choices here.
Wheels? Have Moab's now? Moabs are 16's, and you can run a lot of tire on them. You'll need some spacers behind the wheels to off set them to reduce/eliminate tire rub.
My KMC beadlocks would look great on that Unlimited!
This is why us noobs post.
{toast}
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you have an lj...so the rear drive shaft is alot longer than us tj folks. you may be able to get away without a SYE and cv drive shaft (~$500) and just throw in a few washers on your t-case skid bolts to lower it a 1/4" or so.
x2 on the wheel spacers. you will def need some to run those stock wheels with the 12.5" wide tires.
keep us posted!
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km2s for a 16" rim are about twice the money. Be cheaper to by some 15" wheels and tires. Sell the Moabs for alot of money back in your pocket.
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you have an lj...so the rear drive shaft is alot longer than us tj folks. you may be able to get away without a SYE and cv drive shaft (~$500) and just throw in a few washers on your t-case skid bolts to lower it a 1/4" or so.
Good point Fish!
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Okay, revise that. Did some checking when you said Moab's are 16's. Turns out you're right. And I don't have Moabs, I have Ravines. (Blow to the ego)
Keep it coming!!! I need to know wtf I am doing! I would like to have myself sorted out by the time I get down to talking numbers with Mosdif.
Thanks again for helping to straighten me out guys.
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^^^ This is Seth.
<<< This is not. :P
Thank you, carry on. {btt}
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Okay, revise that. Did some checking when you said Moab's are 16's. Turns out you're right. And I don't have Moabs, I have Ravines. (Blow to the ego)
Keep it coming!!! I need to know wtf I am doing! I would like to have myself sorted out by the time I get down to talking numbers with Mosdif.
Thanks again for helping to straighten me out guys.
Ravines are nice wheels. I like they as much as Moabs, and tires are plentiful and less expensive!
With an LJ budget build, I would go with as much lift as I could from the start, considering your wheelbase and we always want a little more of everything, a little bigger tire, a little more clearance.
If you can't afford the SYE eliminator and CV shaft now, I think you should stay at around a 2" budget lift. Low cost, and easy to install.
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you have an lj...so the rear drive shaft is alot longer than us tj folks. you may be able to get away without a SYE and cv drive shaft (~$500) and just throw in a few washers on your t-case skid bolts to lower it a 1/4" or so.
x2 on the wheel spacers. you will def need some to run those stock wheels with the 12.5" wide tires.
keep us posted!
you really don't NEED a SYE and CV shaft even on a TJ. i have been running my TJ with 4.5 lift for years with out them. now if i ever get off my a$$ i would diffently like to get them installed, but those are not a needed item. stock rims and big tires on the other hand equals needing wheel spacers in the rear.
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you really don't NEED a SYE and CV shaft even on a TJ. i have been running my TJ with 4.5 lift for years with out them. now if i ever get off my a$$ i would diffently like to get them installed, but those are not a needed item. stock rims and big tires on the other hand equals needing wheel spacers in the rear.
You drive 70 on the highway vibe free?
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He has an LJ. Not sure if they are the same when lifted.
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Can Albert get BDS, I didn't think they sold them. BDS is not to be confussed with Black Diamond Suspensions, it's not the same company, I think this is a wise choice on kits. If you remember the Rubicon TJ that was with us at Tellico he ran BDS.If you need help locating BDS PM me. I agree with a Little T/C drop, but you may find some aftermarket wheels used on the cheap. By the way on another note, how is that baby and I haven't saw one picture posted.
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I will rectify the baby pic situation when I get home.
And I was thinking of the Black Diamond Suspension lift. If that and BDS are different then I apologise for the confusion.
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I will rectify the baby pic situation when I get home.
And I was thinking of the Black Diamond Suspension lift. If that and BDS are different then I apologise for the confusion.
There is, do a search for BDS Suspension on yahoo, It's Big Dicks Suspension, I highly recomend BDS, NO FINE PRINT warranty, if it breaks they replace it, no questions asked, don't matter if it fell off a cliff.
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1st photo shoot. 4 days old.
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2501/199/113/514426775/n514426775_2063263_132870.jpg)
3 days old.
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2078/71/28/814287137/n814287137_1236745_630.jpg)
Currently screaming in my ear.
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He has an LJ. Not sure if they are the same when lifted.
GusaGus has a TJ. ;D
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He has an LJ. Not sure if they are the same when lifted.
GusaGus has a TJ. ;D
DUUUHHHH. Not him Doug. ::)
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He has an LJ. Not sure if they are the same when lifted.
GusaGus has a TJ. ;D
DUUUHHHH. Not him Doug. ::)
No shite Sherlock. He's recommending that to you don't need CV shafts, and I want to know if he has no vibes at 70. Read closely grasshopper. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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you really don't NEED a SYE and CV shaft even on a TJ. i have been running my TJ with 4.5 lift for years with out them. now if i ever get off my a$$ i would diffently like to get them installed, but those are not a needed item. stock rims and big tires on the other hand equals needing wheel spacers in the rear.
You drive 70 on the highway vibe free?
if my jeep could go 70 on the highway, it would be vibe free and thats with 36" irocks on beadlock unblanced. now with that said i do have about an inch of drop on the t-case and i'm running about 12oz of sling shot pellets in each tire. i have been holding off on doing a SYE and saving up for a stak or atlas. hate to toss money in something i'm just going to yank out any way. {cool}
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Doug, you kill me sometimes! :D As for the vibe free, I ran my RE lift with a 1" trans drop and 1"ML for awhile vibe free. You are obsessed with the 70mph thing huh! :D
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Thanks for posting pictures, cute baby.
About the 70 mph thing, I'm not sure my XJ would do 70, the fastest I've run it was on trail 1 at Tellico.
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Cute kid! Hang on tight, they grow up fast.
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from what i read you can run 3" of lift on an LJ vibe free with no SYE or tcase drop.
i just put on a 2.5" lift on my tj and i get a tiny vibe under accel in 1-3 gears so im gonna throw a washer or 2 on the tcase bolts to drop it a hair and I should be solid.
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Well, if you or anybody needs a trans drop kit I have one. {toast}
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Well, if you or anybody needs a trans drop kit I have one. {toast}
im good the lift came with a 1" tcase drop kit but i know i dont need that much. the vibes are so minimal that I could probably just live with it. but for $0.50 in parts I think I can save my u-joints. haha.
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I did 70mph in the TJ ONCE... then it blew up >:(
Cute kid, SYE is definitely not the only way to reduce driveline vibes.
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After checking on the things you guys pointed out for me here's the plan:
BDS 3" lift.
Everything I've been researching was on this lift and I plan on staying with this height for a very long time so the lifetime no questions asked warranty works for me.
33x10.5x15 BFG AT on my stock Ravines.
If I went 12.5 the tires would be more expensive and I'd need to buy wheels too. With the 10.5 I still get the look I want and I can swap wheels and tires at a later date if I don't like this setup.
Hopefully I won't have any vibration problems after the lift. If I do, Krawler I'll be callin ya.
Thanks for the help guys. Pics of the end result will be posted.
{toast} {cheers2} {woohoo}
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After checking on the things you guys pointed out for me here's the plan:
BDS 3" lift.
Everything I've been researching was on this lift and I plan on staying with this height for a very long time so the lifetime no questions asked warranty works for me.
33x10.5x15 BFG AT on my stock Ravines.
If I went 12.5 the tires would be more expensive and I'd need to buy wheels too. With the 10.5 I still get the look I want and I can swap wheels and tires at a later date if I don't like this setup.
Hopefully I won't have any vibration problems after the lift. If I do, Krawler I'll be callin ya.
Thanks for the help guys. Pics of the end result will be posted.
{toast} {cheers2} {woohoo}
You can, and I would, run the 12:50's. Wheel spacer and you are set! Krawler is running 33/12.50's on Ravines. 15 x 8 right?
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I agree with Doug, I run 10.50's on the YJ because I thought I wanted that look, wish I would of just got the 12.50's. Will was the same way. By the wat PM sent Seth.
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I run 1.25" spacers on canyons.
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I run 1.25" spacers on canyons.
oops, sorry. Same specs, different look. Both are nice wheels.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/rjcourt/CanyonWheel.gif) = CANYON
* 15x8 aluminum
* 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern
* Backspacing = 5.5"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/rjcourt/RavineWheel.jpg) = RAVINE
* 15x8 aluminum
* 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern
* Backspacing = 5.5"
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You told me you did not like my canyons. :(
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You told me you did not like my canyons. :(
Huh? I like Canyons, always have. Like Spyderlocks better. ;D
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I agree with Doug, I run 10.50's on the YJ because I thought I wanted that look, wish I would of just got the 12.50's. Will was the same way. By the wat PM sent Seth.
What don't you like about the 10.5's? Where do you think the difference would be? Performance? Look? I've never had tires this size before so I'm very curious.
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Track width is your friend, bigger foot print for traction and all around looks.
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It handles a ton better! 2.5" wider is nice to have! TRUST US ALREADY!
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UPDATE!!!!!
My lift is now a Love Seat, Coffee Table, and a trip to Key West to meet up with her family......
I hate my life sometimes. :'( :bs)
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ballchain :wp) {whack3}
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[hammer]
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But.... Key West could MAYBE be enjoyable... ??
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But.... Key West could MAYBE be enjoyable... ??
Duvall Crawl is always a blast.
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Staying at the Southernmost Hotel on Duvall Street. Should actually be fun.
So since the lift is out, I have managed to finagle a front bumper from Nate's 4x4 and when it shows up I'll grab an XRC8 winch to throw on with it.
And my new plan is to purchase my wheels when I get new rubber. I have a feeling I'm going to have to wait a long time for my lift.
Or there's always that late night "job" at Piedmont Park if I wanna expedite the time line. ()()