Georgia Trail Riders Forum
CLASSIFIEDS => Wanted => Topic started by: Rowingfish87 on April 19, 2009, 01:49:41 PM
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So I blew my r&p this weekend in my lp d-30 in my '02 tj and instead of buying a new set and having them installed i figured it would be cheaper to just buy another 30 and bolt it in. I really want a hp30 with 3.73s as a replacement but i think the hp only came with 3.55s or 4.10s which would mean i would have to re-gear my d44...
so if anyone has a d-30 with 3.73 gears let me know.
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Sure wish you would/could move up to at least a Rubi 44. Waggy 44's F&R for $400 on SJ's. Don't want to see you break it 3 times like me. I'm a slow learner. {no}
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Kyle, I checked after you called me yesterday. They do make an HP30 with 3.73s, but it wasn't standard so it may be hard to find.
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Posted on NAXJA for ya.
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Thanks jimmy!
Doug, if you have a lead on a 44 front that I could bolt in for a good price let me know.
Alex, how much are you gonna have in your waggy 44?
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Here's a set of Rubi axles/4.10's w/ lockers on Ebay.
And a Rubi 4:1 TC.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/jeep-tj-wrangler-rubicon-unlimited-dana-44s-air-lockes_W0QQitemZ130300017849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item130300017849&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/jeep-tj-wrangler-rubicon-unlimited-dana-44s-air-lockes_W0QQitemZ130300017849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item130300017849&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/jeep-tj-wrangler-rubicon-unlimited-241-transfer-case_W0QQitemZ130300018776QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item130300018776&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/jeep-tj-wrangler-rubicon-unlimited-241-transfer-case_W0QQitemZ130300018776QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item130300018776&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318)
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I will have $150 in the axle itself. $70 for the chevy spindles. $30 for richards hubs and rotors ($20 or so to get them turned), $200 for gears and install kit, free install my myself, and $50 for the 5x5.5 spacers in the rear to match. But with a waggy 44, you don't have the crappy Dana 30 tube's or outers or ball joints which is why i dont like the rub 44. You also get hubs which i like alot. Then you will need 5x5.5 rims. Or if you buy both waggy axles then i would run the the 6 lug pattern. SO it isnt cheap but i sold all the stuff from my 30 to pay for it. You could sell your rear 44 and be able to fund the waggy 44's.
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On SJ's:
1979 Ford D44/9" combo
1979 F150 D44/9” combo -- $1500
D44 has:
alloy shafts
4.10 gears w/ Aussie Locker
Diff guard
Radius arms have Jonny Joint ends
1 ton Chevy TRE steering w/ pitman arm
Warn premium hubs
and a track bar
Ford 9” has:
Moser alloy shafts, 31 spline
Disc brake conversion with Lincoln brakes, has a parking brake but I’ve never used it
4.10 gears w/ Detroit
TJ sway bar
Set up for triangulated upper arms w/ a truss
Under a YJ w/ coil spring conversion.
The D44 also has tabs welded at the center for limiting straps.
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if only i had the money. [hammer]
keep those eyes peeled for a 30. quick cheap fix to get me back on the trails. then by the next time i blow my 30 again i can upgrade.
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Grand cherokees have the Dana 30 lp with those gears.. Junk yards have them.. you just have to search!
mark
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Well I found a hp30 with 3.73s in alpharetta for $20. Gonna pick it up this weekend! Only prob is its vacuum diso so I'll just have to take that crap off and weld in a lil cover plate so I can run the 1 piece shaft. Anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the conversion or is it straight foward?
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Kyle, it looks pretty straight forward from what I have seen (never done it myself though, so this is all an educated guess).
There is a vacuum actuated fork (looks like a shift fork) that slides a collar from the splines of the inner shaft onto the intermediate shaft to lock them together.
You pull the outer/intermediate shaft/unit bearing out the same as with a non-disco housing, pull the vacuum crap off, slide the collar out, take off the c-clip on the inner shaft, and then use a long skinny rod (broom handle?) to push the inner shaft out of the housing. I think there are some extra axle seals between the disco assembly too.
The block off plate is just a simple flat plate bolted on in 4 places and sealed with a ton of RTV....
(http://image.jpmagazine.com/f/17085244/154_0904_07_z+dana_30_vacume_disconnect+cover_plate.jpg)
Oh, and I think you can weld the two piece shaft together to make a super ghetto spare shaft too, lol.
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Anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the conversion?
Dang, I hate to watch you go down this road........................... again.
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Anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the conversion?
Dang, I hate to watch you go down this road........................... again.
whats that supposed to mean doug?
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Anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the conversion?
Dang, I hate to watch you go down this road........................... again.
Just think of it as a Rubi 44 with more ground clearance ;)
....Which is what it is ;D
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Anyone have any tips or tricks for doing the conversion?
Dang, I hate to watch you go down this road........................... again.
Just think of it as a Rubi 44 with more ground clearance ;)
....Which is what it is ;D
Well, not exactly. The weakness that I found in the D30 was the flex that allows the TINY ring and pinion to change relationship and break teeth. The 44 ring and pinion is MUCH larger and stronger. I also have the Alloy's and Super Joints, but I've never broken a shaft or joint. I'm sure that's next now that I said it. ;D
Fish, I've seen you drive that thing, and you're not scared of the skinny. IMHO, D30's won't last unless you crawl'um. Ask me how I know!
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Kyle, some good info in this thread: http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=903858&highlight=non-disco+shaft+swap
Looks like you have to change one axle seal.
Also, you might want to check when you put your diff cover on the HP axle, they might have different height fill holes. I think I have an HP30 and LP30 diff cover in my storage unit, if they are different you can have the HP30 cover.
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All of this is in the wrong section...... Any mods catch it? :D :D :D :D :D
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$20 is not a bad road to travel ;D
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Yea, all you need is that cover plate and another seal. To make thing easier on you, I would keep your current outers, or at least the brakes that came on yours.
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Yea, all you need is that cover plate and another seal. To make thing easier on you, I would keep your current outers, or at least the brakes that came on yours.
i was planning on running the shafts, brakes, etc out of my stock d30. i think i might go ahead and replace the ball joints too. how much do d30 ball joints cost? will it be worth replacing them? this is an 1989 axle...i figure they might be due for a change.
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$20 is not a bad road to travel ;D
I agree. That's an awesome deal. This is the road I was was referring to. I have 2 D30 ring gears that look exactly like his. The fella that I sold my HP30 to trussed it up pretty good.
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47b9da00b3127cce9854888f233400000046100Aas2jVo4Ys2Sg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/reynoldsdb/Stuff/cid_719.jpg)
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welp the axle i bought has 3.55 gears in it (39 ring gear teeth and 11 pinion teeth).
so the search goes on. if i can find a hp30 with 3.73s thats the route i'll go. if not im going to try and find (hopefully) some used 3.73 hp gears or just another lp30 on the cheap.
if all else fails i will just but a hp30 with 4.10s and an 8.8 with 4.10s and sell my d44 and have $800 to spend on something else.
anyone have any other suggestions?
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sell the 44 ;D. You are building a longarm anyway, so why cut of the brackets on the 44 when it is work $$ with the brackets.
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how about this for a front axle:
http://www.southernjeeps.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=30545 (http://www.southernjeeps.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=30545)
with these:
http://www.southernjeeps.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=30546 (http://www.southernjeeps.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=30546)
and these:
http://ballisticfabrication.3dcartstores.com/Link-bracket-coil-spring-shock-mount-combo_p_1461.html (http://ballisticfabrication.3dcartstores.com/Link-bracket-coil-spring-shock-mount-combo_p_1461.html)
now i just need to come up with the money to buy it...
your thoughts?
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I think the Bronco axle is wider than the Jeep axle, so getting 5x5.5 wheels and running an adapter on the rear would probably be better. Don't forget you need upper link mounts also!
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Thats a good deal but its low pinion. Which if I would have known I would have put a lp 60 in the ranger just so I didnt have to worry about u-joints. I say go for it
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Jimmy this is from the smaller broncos I think the width should be pretty close to a jeep. I know this "THE" axle for a ranger because of the width most of the time they are around 500-600.
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Well, if it works doooo eeeet.
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Jimmy this is from the smaller broncos I think the width should be pretty close to a jeep. I know this "THE" axle for a ranger because of the width most of the time they are around 500-600.
Yeah I think they are 58" wide and ithe stock jeep is 60.5(?) But if the front ends up being a little wider I'll just buy some wheel spacers for the rear.
Any other thoughts/suggestions if I go through with this?