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Title: Save some cash!
Post by: Krawler00 on August 19, 2011, 09:24:48 AM
I have been reading up on balancing tires with BB's, pellets etc. I was a bit leary to try it but figured with me getting Wills old 35's and running them for a few weeks, it was worth a shot to save some cash at the tire store and not have them balanced. I read up and found that the weight needed for 35's was 8 ounces. So I had some BB's already (steel) and a good scale and weighed out 8 ounces. Comes to 620 BB's :P I counted out 4 bags to 620 and took them over when we mounted the tires. I was still not convinced it would work. After I got home and put the tires on, I drove down the street to see what it was like. The only noise they make (that I can hear) is when coming to a stop you can hear them falling and hitting the rim. Very low noise, like a bad brake that is wearing. So I proceeded to get some speed and low and behold they are true! Needless to say that Wills old tires are not the best for smoothness but I got it up to 67 this morning and it was right on. So, for those who have some mounting to do soon, save your $ and go with this method. You can read up on this and see for yourself and choose BB's, or soft pellets or even antifreeze :-\. The general rule (that I found) is that 35's take 8 ounces, 36's, 9, 37's, 10 etc etc. But figured I would share my savings with you guys who truly do drive your Jeeps on the road. I know I am always looking to save a buck! {toast}
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Huntingman2706217 on August 19, 2011, 03:07:52 PM
sounds good... ive been using a local shops kinda synthetic sand... but there like $7 a bag... just rip it open and throw the whole bag in... what sucks is when you take the tires off and leave them in the rain though :( lol
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: tcdawg on August 19, 2011, 03:26:33 PM
I had the Dyna Bead brand beads in my old Duratrac 33's and I was pleased with they way they worked.  They were very quiet.

Right now on my new 35's I've got weights on the inside of the wheel but plan to do to Dyna Beads when/if they start to loose their balance.

I was told that the MT/R's loose their balance pretty quick after an air down but I've aired them down twice now and they seem to have kept their balance...for now at least.
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: lt99ls1 on August 19, 2011, 04:01:43 PM
Wonder if having a blowout would be like a claymore going off?


I am going to try this with my 40's and beadlocks soon.
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Trailabite on August 19, 2011, 04:52:33 PM
Wonder if having a blowout would be like a claymore going off?

lol
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Krawler00 on August 19, 2011, 07:25:36 PM
There are so many ways to do it but I did the cheapest option and it is working great! I might go plastic next round but what I have is working fine.
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: BigJerm on August 20, 2011, 12:23:31 AM
Might need to look into this. When my MTRs were first mounted they were great but after a few rides they have a nice wobble around the 45-50 mph range. PSI is good, toe is good, so maybe it's the balance.


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Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Logan on August 20, 2011, 02:35:36 AM
Been doing it since I first got beadlocks. They work amazingly until you have a bent wheel
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: MACHINE on August 21, 2011, 11:36:20 PM
I was talking with my tire guy the other day about this. On my big truck, I will not accept anything other than a spin balance. If a tire shop cant do it, then they loose a sale. I had to get some new steer tires the other day and since our normal shop was slammed, I had to go to Action tire. They lost the sale cause they wanted to powder balance my steers. I had just had my Pete aligned and you're talking $600 (11R/24.5 Bridgestone) each for tires. The powder will not  properly balance and can cause improper wear and vibration, which affects front end parts. If you've ever seen the repair bill for those size king-pins you would agree! Anyway, I brought up the subject of BB's and powder etc., with my regular guys. They told me that metal BB's WILL destroy the inside of your tire and can erode the rim itself over time. (kinda like sand blasting) They weren't certain how the plastic airsoft type stuff would work, but would be better than metal for sure. Of course, what we do with our tires is a complete different story than a big truck, but tires are tires. DON'T use metal BB's! A blowout in a 35" ish tire at highway speeds could be fatal. There's a lot of space between the rim and pavement, and a whole bunch could go wrong fast. Just my .02 is all.
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Krawler00 on August 22, 2011, 04:37:20 PM
Machine, this is all until I get my new tires on. Then I will be balancing them the old fashioned way, paying :P I would pay for new tires to get balanced but not worn out ones. Might put 200 miles on the jeep till I get the new ones so only traveling backroads no highway speeds. Blow out in a jeep on 35's is going to be a mess with or without bbs! :o
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: MACHINE on August 22, 2011, 10:57:21 PM
Gotcha... guess I missed that part. I just dont wanna see anyone hurt or see a Jeep mangled.
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Krawler00 on August 23, 2011, 10:31:31 AM
 {toast}
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: RotorHead on August 23, 2011, 11:22:20 AM
I'm running air soft pellets with a little antifreeze mixed in to keep them from clumping. 3 of the 4 tires are smooth as glass at any speed. One tire has a pretty bad vibration between 70 and 75. I need to play around with the weight and see if I can smooth it out. The good thing is that once you get them right. You won't need to have them rebalanced until you get new tires. No need to worry about slinging or spinning weights.
Title: Re: Save some cash!
Post by: Krawler00 on August 23, 2011, 11:41:29 AM
Yeah, just one of the tires I have is giving me issues. But once I get the new tires I will probably get them prof balanced and then once they begin to give me issues, will probably get pellets. It has been along time since the Jeep rode smooth and looking forward to that feeling again.