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Title: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 14, 2012, 08:33:16 PM
So check this out. I have a set of 14 stupid bright lights each containing 34 military grade LEDs that have been sitting in my garage. They are designed for a Striker Armored Vehicle and are about 4"x 6" big.  I have all the wiring and even its own switch box to controle individual "zones" of 2 lights each.
Here's the hang up, it's designed to run off of a 24 volt system. I attempted to get at least one zone of 2 working on my old rig, but could never get them to fire up. I admit, I am by NO means savey with electrical anything that I cant just plug into a wall, so I guess my question would be is there a way to get this to work on a 12 volt system? I'm sure it would work just fine and I just wired it stupid or something when I tried last time.
 Suggestions?
On a side note, There is no way I am going to be able to mount all of these things onto my rig, so if I can get these to working I mite have some for sale or something. Like $20 or so for a set of 2 because at most I'll use 4 on mine. Anyone who can give me a way to get these running, I'll give you a set. Deal?  {cheers2}
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: DOUG on November 14, 2012, 08:38:06 PM
If you had 2 - 12 volt batteries, but I don't know anyway to make them work on a 12v system..

but they will look awesome on my golf cart! lol
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: cudruln on November 14, 2012, 09:01:21 PM
They make DC to DC booster converters for 12 to 24 volt configurations with screw type terminals. They are going to be a little pricey and require a little bit of room. But if your set on running those lights that would probably be your best option. Hope this helped some

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 15, 2012, 05:39:33 AM
Who makes them? I bet it's cheaper than buying lights.

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: BlueJew on November 15, 2012, 09:18:14 AM
Quick search turned this up.  Looks like boats use them for lighting.

http://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet%20-%20Orion%20DC%20DC%20converters%20-%20rev%2013%20-%20EN.pdf

http://shop.pkys.com/victron-orion-12-24-10-dc-dc-converter.aspx

If that works, i might grab the extras you have.
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 15, 2012, 09:31:53 AM
If it does, then definitely ;D

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: cudruln on November 15, 2012, 12:55:21 PM
Quick search turned this up.  Looks like boats use them for lighting.

http://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet%20-%20Orion%20DC%20DC%20converters%20-%20rev%2013%20-%20EN.pdf

http://shop.pkys.com/victron-orion-12-24-10-dc-dc-converter.aspx

If that works, i might grab the extras you have.
There is a couple of options (like these). Its like any other part, just have to do some research and decide what would be best for you.

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 16, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
Here is an example of just one of these huge ass lights.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/17/8ypa9uhe.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 16, 2012, 04:34:43 PM
Here's the box full of em.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/17/bu9ajy8u.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: DOUG on November 16, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
Dang, you'll only be able to use those when u are alone or we will all be blind

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 16, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
Hah hah, make a great lead vehicle set up though. ;D

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 16, 2012, 05:21:30 PM
My plan is 2 on either side of the windshield, 2 on the bumper, and 2 underneath. IF I can get it to work of course.

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: cudruln on November 16, 2012, 06:52:50 PM
Make sure you do some detailed research on the DC to DC booster (if you go that route). As i am not sure on how many lights a single unit could run. But obviously the leds would not draw to much power. Just my 2 cents

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 16, 2012, 07:32:32 PM
Well it'd only take 1 connection as they all connect to a main toggle switch box which then runs to the power source and ground. So I could easily run a max of 8 lights off of that one source.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 17, 2012, 07:31:18 AM
Quick search turned this up.  Looks like boats use them for lighting.

http://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet%20-%20Orion%20DC%20DC%20converters%20-%20rev%2013%20-%20EN.pdf

http://shop.pkys.com/victron-orion-12-24-10-dc-dc-converter.aspx

If that works, i might grab the extras you have.

Very close. Now I just need to find one that has a 30A instead of 10A output and I believe it'd work.  </ROCKIN/>
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 17, 2012, 04:14:18 PM
Purely aesthetic right now. They're wired and mounted, just not powered.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/18/zuve3a2u.jpg)

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: onlygoon on November 18, 2012, 02:08:44 PM
Nice they look good save me a set I am in need of some lights
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 18, 2012, 05:46:08 PM
Will do. But the draw back is they only work on a 24v circuit so you'd also have to get a converter. 30A. That's y I'm selling the rest for so cheep. Otherwise dude, these would easily go for a few huno because these one wouldn't find on the open market.

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: BlueJew on November 19, 2012, 07:04:55 AM
Why do you think that the 10a won't work?  Is there a heavy draw due to the uptick in voltage with regard to amps?
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 19, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
It's because on the power cable, there's a 30A fuse which goes directly to the switch box. So yeah, I'm concluding that there's a significant power draw here.

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Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: DOUG on November 19, 2012, 04:39:04 PM
Yep, thats a good sign.

LED's don't normally draw high amps.  You sure those aren't laser's? Lol

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 19, 2012, 05:31:25 PM
LOL! Mite as well be Doug. I have seen these in use before on Strikers while down range, and dude they could probably burn througha brick wall if left pointed at it long enough..  </LMAO/> </LMAO/>
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: frenchlayer on November 19, 2012, 05:45:50 PM
I wouldnt mind a set either if you can find a cheap way to convert to 12v, these would be perfect for my trailer
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 19, 2012, 07:21:51 PM
Oh I have no doubt they would work awesome in that application.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on November 21, 2012, 11:39:45 AM
I'm definitely interested in picking up a set from you.  I'm sure I could get them running... (famous last words)
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on November 21, 2012, 11:52:57 AM
Also, according to the manufacturer, each lamp draws less than 3 amps @ 24 volts:

http://www.grote.com/product.php?product_number=63571
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: Danny Kinder on November 21, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
Purely aesthetic right now. They're wired and mounted, just not powered.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/18/zuve3a2u.jpg)

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Looks good Ryan! Time to chop that bumper {letseat}
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 21, 2012, 05:23:32 PM
Now that you mention it, I mite be trading another dude for mine straight up. An XRC type. Ill get a pic as soon as I can. He really likes mine, so I mite be able to pull this off.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 21, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
Also, according to the manufacturer, each lamp draws less than 3 amps @ 24 volts:

http://www.grote.com/product.php?product_number=63571


Yeah after some resurch of my own, a 10A converter should do the trick. I mite have a good line on one for around $60, so we'll see.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: onlygoon on November 21, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Do it
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: onlygoon on November 21, 2012, 07:12:41 PM
Do it
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: tcdawg on November 21, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
^^^double post owns you :)
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on November 22, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
Did a test yesterday, Definately can go with a 10A and run all 6 lights!! The guy who did the test for me is a dude who is introdusing a new type of power supply to the army that my platoon and I are going to be testing in Feb. Anyway, he says he can get me just the converter I need for around $50!!! And he's got some smaller 12V 6 LED lights which he's hooking me up w/ 2 to replace the little rock lights underneath!!  </ROCKIN/> </ROCKIN/> </ROCKIN/> Pics coming once its all up and running
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: DOUG on November 22, 2012, 11:06:22 AM
 </ROCKIN/>
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on December 05, 2012, 01:16:00 PM
Got 4 of these bad boys from Ryan yesterday.  These things are built like tanks! (Pun!)

As soon as I get them mounted and decide on my 24v wiring system, I'll post pictures and details.
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on December 05, 2012, 04:33:35 PM
Heh heh. Wasn't kidding was I. ;D They're friggn huge, and extremely durable. I have a set of 2 still if anyone else wants them. Also, once I get the low down on where my guy is getting the converter from, I'll be sure to post.

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: prjohnson on December 05, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
Are you ever around Marietta? I'll take a couple off your hands.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: Mortalis5509 on December 05, 2012, 06:13:02 PM
Great deal on pirate 4 led rock lights. Under $50 for 20 lights.  http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/miscellaneous/1058739-rock-lights-under-50-strand-20-lights.html

For his Thanksgiving sale he was giving away a bunch of free light when ordering. I ended up with 70 plus wiring for them. I have 2 jeeps to do but I'm sure I will have some left over.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: Raisinhead on December 05, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
I need some rock lights! Let me know
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on December 07, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
Here are the rock lights I just installed the other day. They are a smaller 12v version of the bigger 24v ones I've been talking about.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/08/tuba8eze.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/08/ubyryhut.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/08/2ysureru.jpg)

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on December 07, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
Are you ever around Marietta? I'll take a couple off your hands.
Not really up there much, but I can definately ship some to you. I only have a set of flood lights left. Still $20 plus shipping, which isnt too bad. I sent 4 lights to mzmtg and it only cost like $13 to send em.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: frenchlayer on December 08, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
If he doesn't want them I do for my trailer
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on December 09, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
Mounted, still not wired

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/10/ydyzyhyz.jpg)

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: prjohnson on December 10, 2012, 09:45:56 AM
Are you ever around Marietta? I'll take a couple off your hands.
Not really up there much, but I can definately ship some to you. I only have a set of flood lights left. Still $20 plus shipping, which isnt too bad. I sent 4 lights to mzmtg and it only cost like $13 to send em.

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: Texsun on December 10, 2012, 02:55:51 PM
Do you have any for sale? I will buy 2 :)
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on December 10, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Just sold my last set. Sorry bro.
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on January 01, 2013, 03:36:03 PM
Let there be light

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/02/9upe3y3y.jpg)

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on January 02, 2013, 08:54:48 AM
 </ROCKIN/> </ROCKIN/> How'd you do it bro!? Im still wating on a converter.
Pretty friggn bright though huh?
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on January 02, 2013, 09:44:48 AM
</ROCKIN/> </ROCKIN/> How'd you do it bro!? Im still wating on a converter.
Pretty friggn bright though huh?


I got two of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HMETBE/ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HMETBE/) (LM2577 DC-DC Adjustable Step-up Power Converter Module)

Some of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A9Z8V2K (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A9Z8V2K) (Accel/DFI's Weatherproof Electrical 2 Pin Connector 74812)

One of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPUCG (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZPUCG) (Project Box 5-1/4" x 3-1/4")

...and some relays and built my own converter.  I don't know if it's really durable enough for long term under-hood survival, but it's working fine for now.  Each of those DC-DC converters can push up to 2.5 amps, so it will only power one lamp.  But, this way, if a converter (or my soldering job) fails, I only lose one light, not both.

And yeah, the lights are insanely bright  </ROCKIN/>
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on January 02, 2013, 09:49:22 AM
Awesome!! I think I'm going to go the same route. Fortunately I wont have to get the relays or connectors, just the converters and box. I do like that each has its own power source, makes it easy to identify which one crapped out. Well done dude!  {cheers2}
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on January 02, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Awesome!! I think I'm going to go the same route. {cheers2}

The converters are TINY.  Each one is about the size of 2 postage stamps.  They could go into a very small enclosure if you wanted them to.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on January 02, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
Yeah I was noticing that there isnt much to em. As long as they work... lol
Title: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on February 09, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
So, there ya have it. Almost couldn't take the picture.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/10/a7eqy3uj.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: mzmtg on February 09, 2013, 06:53:23 PM
So, there ya have it. Almost couldn't take the picture.

Spots &  floods?

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Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on February 09, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
Yeah. Spotters in front, and flood on the windshield frame. I have the floods toed out slightly as well. Gives me nearly a 180 degree field of light.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: Krawler00 on February 11, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
I'm not ridin in front of you on a night ride. Just keep in mind, our great lights do no good unless you are the lead dog. I hate when I am riding and the guy behind me has all his running. Looks great man! Get a shot at night and lets see the distance, beam patterns.
Title: Re: Insane bright LEDs for da rig
Post by: RD Slyter on February 11, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
Yeah I feel ya there bud. Soonest I'll be able to would be thuersday for night pics.