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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #444 on: February 09, 2014, 05:16:40 PM »
Wes may get to do a full BJ change in the near future!  He got Moog as a replacement for that side, but if that side went, how long until the other side goes? 

I have the Alloy USA (Chromoly, supposedly) BJs.  I do not desire to ever replace a BJ again, but if I have to do it, I want to be in a garage instead of doing a field repair like Wes. 

Wes knocked that task out like a champ!  The conditions were much less than ideal...he should be proud.
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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #445 on: February 09, 2014, 05:33:39 PM »
I assumed from the pics that Wes' ball joints blew out and took the axle shaft with them.  If the knuckle and outer C survived than that was a big plus for the repair job.  A lesson to be learned is to check ball joints periodically: http://www.wikihow.com/Check-Ball-Joints

If one ball joint breaks then the other will almost certainly go in another split second.

And don't go cheap when getting new ball joints.  Get the best you can afford.

I think it was the other way around. U joint went, the axle ears spun on each other, and took out the upper ball joint and then the lower joint failed under the pressure.

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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #446 on: February 09, 2014, 05:36:26 PM »
I assumed from the pics that Wes' ball joints blew out and took the axle shaft with them.  If the knuckle and outer C survived than that was a big plus for the repair job.  A lesson to be learned is to check ball joints periodically: http://www.wikihow.com/Check-Ball-Joints

If one ball joint breaks then the other will almost certainly go in another split second.

And don't go cheap when getting new ball joints.  Get the best you can afford.

What is the absolute best available brand?  Some money is no object.

Synergy or Alloy USA. $250 for a full set

Dynatrac makes some that are supposedly super bad ass and rebuildable...but they are expensive as hell, like 500 a set and the rebuild kits are something like 250. No thanks.

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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #447 on: February 09, 2014, 05:40:07 PM »
I wouldn't have thought that the u-joint breaking would take out a BJ unless he kept beating on it after the "crack".  Result is the same in any case. 
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« Reply #448 on: February 09, 2014, 05:44:23 PM »
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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #449 on: February 09, 2014, 06:18:29 PM »
I assumed from the pics that Wes' ball joints blew out and took the axle shaft with them.  If the knuckle and outer C survived than that was a big plus for the repair job.  A lesson to be learned is to check ball joints periodically: http://www.wikihow.com/Check-Ball-Joints

If one ball joint breaks then the other will almost certainly go in another split second.

And don't go cheap when getting new ball joints.  Get the best you can afford.

I think it was the other way around. U joint went, the axle ears spun on each other, and took out the upper ball joint and then the lower joint failed under the pressure.

The repair crew had a better look at the final carnage.  The outer axle shaft ears were broken.  The inner axle shaft was fine (should be checked for cracks).  The upper BJ shaft was sheared above the knuckle (castle nut still attached and shaft still in the knuckle).  The lower BJ shaft, including the pivot ball, were completely attached to the knuckle (castle nut still attached).   

We landed on the following conclusion: 
The upper BJ sheered, which allowed the knuckle to flip/flop/flap, which caused enough stress on the u-joint and lower BJ to break the u-joint and allow the lower BJ to break through the retaining clip.
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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #450 on: February 09, 2014, 06:27:26 PM »
Repair crew FTW
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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #451 on: February 09, 2014, 06:30:09 PM »
Repair crew FTW

Well, actually it was the "Watch Wes do something he has never done before and give him three different opinions about what to do...at the same time...crew."  In the professional world we would be called matrix managers.
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« Reply #452 on: February 09, 2014, 06:35:43 PM »
Proud of all you guys! Great team work and support.

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Re: Re: Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #453 on: February 09, 2014, 07:45:20 PM »
Did anyone with the club happen to pick up my two red Camp chairs? I'm pretty sure I left them at the camp fire. No biggy if not just hopeful.

Thanks.

I got them. Give 'em to ya next month or can meet ya somewhere. Let me know.

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Sweet, thanks. I'll get with you or we can just wait till the next ride.

Thanks again.
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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #454 on: February 09, 2014, 08:04:27 PM »
Repair crew FTW

Well, actually it was the "Watch Wes do something he has never done before and give him three different opinions about what to do...at the same time...crew."  In the professional world we would be called matrix managers.

Hey, we had to provide moral support and shade him from the sun and keep him hydrated.  //;D//
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Re: FEB 7-8 2014: MORRIS MTN * DISCUSSION HERE
« Reply #455 on: February 09, 2014, 08:58:38 PM »
That sun was blazing!  Thanks again guys!  Anyone have a spare outer shaft they want to part with tomorrow?  27 spline and close to atl?
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