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Queue up the gun debate
Blue J:
--- Quote from: BigMike on February 17, 2018, 01:49:07 PM ---Nobody wants to discuss the issue, only push their own agenda. We keep going around and around with this issue.
Let's try to get to the core problem with mass murder. Take away the tools ... AR's, AK's, shotguns, trucks filled with fertilizer and diesel fuel, etc.
My take on it is the disregard for human life. Murder is illegal but it still happens. If every AR-type gun didn't exist in the hands of civilians, just as many children would be dead today. Some people have evil intentions and will find a way to kill people.
Now, no matter what happens on Capitol Hill, AR's will never be banned. The gun control issue will rage on and in the end, nothing will happen ... IMO.
So how do we protect children at schools? Well, how do we protect VIP's? How do we protect money in a bank? How do we protect the President? With guns. Even then it is 100% effective but it is a deterrent.
Arm the staff at schools that are willing to be trained and carry. Again, IMO, if the hero coach that shielded kids with his body had a weapon, he probably wouldn't be dead and would have saved more lives than he did.
A very long-time friend of mine had his own church in Ohio before retiring to FL. He carried a .38 in a shoulder holster under his suit while preaching on Sundays. He was always armed. When the kid in SC shot those people at bible study, I texted my friend a couple days later and said "I'll bet that kid wouldn't have killed anyone at your bible study", he replied "nope, no way".
Some schools in the US have already implemented arming their staff. The Left hates this idea because it calls for more guns, not less ... all the while they enjoy being protected by armed security.
I'm open to your view on this. What do you think the core issue is?
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Mental Health is the Core issue.
Many of my liberal friends are great marksmen and women. Not all Liberals think guns are bad.
BigMike:
--- Quote from: Blue J on February 17, 2018, 01:53:01 PM ---
Mental Health is the Core issue.
Many of my liberal friends are great marksmen and women. Not all Liberals think guns are bad.
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Ok, mental health. So is it possible for someone to have perfect mental health today and tomorrow they just snap and commit mass murder?
Blue J:
--- Quote from: patman on February 17, 2018, 01:28:51 PM ---
Many proponents of these rules openly stated (later on) that the true intent wasn't to deter that activity, but to use as a stepping stone to a total ban on firearms. Luckily, they failed.
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I have not heard this. But of course I only read Liberal media. So how could I?
Blue J:
--- Quote from: BigMike on February 17, 2018, 01:59:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blue J on February 17, 2018, 01:53:01 PM ---
Mental Health is the Core issue.
Many of my liberal friends are great marksmen and women. Not all Liberals think guns are bad.
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Ok, mental health. So is it possible for someone to have perfect mental health today and tomorrow they just snap and commit mass murder?
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I guess anything is possible. But I'm not sure it is likely.
clark123456:
--- Quote from: BigMike on February 17, 2018, 01:59:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blue J on February 17, 2018, 01:53:01 PM ---
Mental Health is the Core issue.
Many of my liberal friends are great marksmen and women. Not all Liberals think guns are bad.
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Ok, mental health. So is it possible for someone to have perfect mental health today and tomorrow they just snap and commit mass murder?
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Mike, I think/hope we can agree there is no stopping it 100%. What some of us are arguing is the impact and frequency can be reduced.
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