well lastnight turned out to be pretty interesting, listened to both speeches, john was a great sport and have a lot of admiration for him,  then there was obamas,  at first it was stiring then he said we need to work hard not just for ourselves  but for everyone else to do better, right there in that comment he lost me,  he is a socialist, if you dont believe me  look at his policies and his preposed changes  then go read carl marx's book  and you will see  things are going to be very interesting for te next 4 years.......    What are your guys thoughts??