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Offline DOUG

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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #72 on: November 15, 2008, 02:26:30 PM »
-As far as the Vegas idea... if we go to Vegas, we got to stay in Vegas which means a night, a hotel, casino.... not saving money there.

I never pay for a room in Vegas.   Comp, comp, comp!!   {toast}

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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #73 on: November 15, 2008, 02:50:12 PM »
I'm still a definite IN. I'm a trucker...

Would you be up for towing some rigs out?  If we can get 5-8 rigs on a car carrier, then the fuel costs drop dramatically...

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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #74 on: November 15, 2008, 03:35:31 PM »
I'm still a definite IN. I'm a trucker...

Would you be up for towing some rigs out?  If we can get 5-8 rigs on a car carrier, then the fuel costs drop dramatically...

Hey Dave, we've discussed this, and I called around.  There are roadblocks, figuratively speaking.  No one, at least I can find no one, that will rent a CDL truck/tractor/trailer without you already having corporate trucking insurance and a contract with them, i.e Penske, Hertz, etc.  Plus, they only get a flat bed, not a car carrier.  We would have to hire a trucker/car carrier, and the quote I got just to Moab was $2500 each way. 



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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2008, 04:51:12 PM »
I'm still a definite IN. I'm a trucker...

Would you be up for towing some rigs out?  If we can get 5-8 rigs on a car carrier, then the fuel costs drop dramatically...
If I had a truck, yeah I would, but I'm a company driver. If someone provides a truck I can drive it

As far as renting a truck, I have a friend that owns a trucking company and I know he had to rent a truck from Ryder before when one of his trucks was down. He only has 3 trucks so just one truck down hurts him a lot. As far as him doing it on the "up and up" I'm not sure.

If we could get a truck in our budget we could possibly rent a trailer from someone else

I'm really not scared to drive there and back. not in my XJ because it has chronic death wobble  ;D
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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2008, 07:49:39 AM »
Jeremy,

Here is a link to Waggoneers Trucking whose home base is Billings MT.  They have a terminal here in Bwk which is on of Georgia's ports.  They also have a terminal in East Point.  You might could give them a call to see how much it would cost to haul a load of jeeps out west.  You could even have them haul one way to cali and then drive back through Moab on the road trip home. It would save you a lot of time.  just a thought..
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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2008, 11:02:23 AM »
Jeremy,

Here is a link to Waggoneers Trucking whose home base is Billings MT.  They have a terminal here in Bwk which is on of Georgia's ports.  They also have a terminal in East Point.  You might could give them a call to see how much it would cost to haul a load of jeeps out west.  You could even have them haul one way to cali and then drive back through Moab on the road trip home. It would save you a lot of time.  just a thought..

I did get a quote.  $2487 1 way for a load.  But if you hire a truck, you create other costs and have to find a way to get to the jeeps, so you have air and a rental too.  Maybe Clyde can pick us all up in the motor coach!

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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2008, 01:44:43 PM »
Lots of info, so big post. 

On this website, there is this map (below), and they say that Georgetown is the ceremonial trail head, but the Rubicon trail really starts at Loon Lake (where the pavement ends), so why go all the way to Georgetown?  I found the shortest way to Loon Lake is through South Lake Tahoe. See new map link below, and zoom in on Loon Lake. http://www.californiajeeper.com/rubicon/review.htm#trail

Here is a good document with a detailed map up to Loon Lake that leads us in and tells of the places we can stop for any last minute supplies before entering the trail head.  http://www.deercrossingcamp.com/acrodocs/loon_lake_map3.pdf

These Toy guys have a nice brief summary of the trails journey with pics.  http://www.norcalttora.com/trails/rubicon.php

This Google map takes us to the trail head at Loon Lake, and B to C is the Rubicon Trail, although I can't make the map show it, and erase the back track.  The trail comes out near Homewood so that's where we can pick up the map again.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Smyrna,+GA&daddr=Unknown+road+to:Homewood,+CA+to:Moab,+UT+to:Smyrna,+GA&hl=en&geocode=%3BFRskUwIdyi7U-A%3B%3B%3B&mra=ls&dirflg=t&sll=38.788881,-120.356255&sspn=0.119085,0.2211&ie=UTF8&ll=38.916682,-120.130005&spn=1.901848,3.537598&z=8

Location: The Rubicon Trail starts just past Loon Lake in the Sierra Nevada foothills and ends in South Lake Tahoe. On Highway 50 from Sacramento turn left on Ice House Rd. Follow the signs for Loon Lake, then go past the camping area. Go across the dam and down onto the granite slab. That's where the adventure begins. If you are going for the first time, go with someone who knows the trail. The beginning of the trail and several places in between are not marked.

Description: The Rubicon Trail is the "granddaddy of trails." Most of 18 miles of trail consists of large boulders and rocky terrain. The other parts of the trail go across huge granite slabs which have steep inclines and sharp drop offs. This trail is not for the faint at heart! It does offer some spectacular scenery if you wait long enough for the dust to settle. You can camp along the way at Spider Lake, Buck Island Lake or about 12 miles in there is the Rubicon Springs Campground. This will take a beginner about 6 to 7 hours, or a seasoned wheeler about 4-5 hours if you drive straight through to the campgrounds at Rubicon Springs. The last leg of the journey is about 6 miles (1-2 hours) to paved road.

Recommended equipment: Almost any type of  4x4 vehicle has made it through, but some are easier than others. Stock Jeeps will do the job, but expect body damage. Vehicles with a long wheel base will have a little trouble with some sharp turns. Skid plates, rocker guards, and tow hooks and straps are a must. It is highly recommended that someone in your group have a winch. The less the vehicle is equipped the more work and damage you can expect.

Exciting stuff.




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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2008, 03:05:30 PM »
Nice work. I still got to read some more of the links you posted. Here is a map I found and from what I read the last of the Historic Trail goes from Wentworth Springs Rd. Thats where I want to start from. Looks like it has a staging area as well.

http://www.rubicon4x4.com/images/rubicon_loon_ws.gif


Edit*** I mean we do have 3.5 days so we could always see both entrances ya know? Park at Loon Lake, double back down the Went Worth portion while on the trail. Either way I do plan to stay in a hotel the night before. 2 days of over 900 miles of driving... I am going to need a bed and a shower.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2008, 03:16:42 PM by BigJerm »

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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2008, 03:18:16 PM »
Nice work. I still got to read some more of the links you posted. Here is a map I found and from what I read the last of the Historic Trail goes from Wentworth Springs Rd. Thats where I want to start from. Looks like it has a staging area as well.
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/images/rubicon_loon_ws.gif

Great find.  I couldn't find that entry mapped out, but it still turns of of Hwy 50 at the same place, but takes the left fork at Wentworth Springs Road.  I read some about that too at Wikipedia.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubicon_Trail


Edit: Either way we miss some trail.
Trail summary

There are entrances to the trail, either at Wentworth Springs or at the Loon Lake spillway. The Wentworth Springs entrance, at Ellis Creek, is the original entrance to the trail, and starts with an obstacle known as Devil's Postpile (not to be confused with Devil's Postpile National Monument near Mammoth). The Loon Lake route is longer, first crossing the Granite Bowl, a large open rock valley. (The Loon Lake entrance previously had an obstacle known as The Gatekeeper. It was demolished in 2005)

The Wentworth Springs entrance to the trail joins the trail from Loon Lake at Ellis Creek. After driving through the relatively mild section of Ellis Creek the Walker Hill obstacle is encountered. It includes a rocky climb followed by a notch that can either be straddled or side-hilled.

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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2008, 03:28:55 PM »
Okay Doug and Jerm,

Check this out on Hells Revenge.

Be sure to click play...

http://www.stu-offroad.com/images/vid/tracyroll.mpg

Thank God for trees.  Sometimes they can stop what you can't.

Stu has many videos of trails in Moab..  You can go to his home page and click on videos.
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Re: The official/Non official 2010 Rubicon Trip
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2008, 03:30:43 PM »
Okay Doug and Jerm,

Check this out on Hells Revenge.

http://www.stu-offroad.com/images/vid/tracyroll.mpg

Stu has many videos of trails in Moab..  You can go to his home page and click on videos.

yep.  Y'all take notice.  Spotter says passenger, so you go driver and give it some skinny pedal.  Ugh.   ::)

 



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