I was there and I rode up to the first trail where everyone was getting hung up and had to winch up. I stayed over there for a good hour playing and trying to get up the first part of the hill. I found out real fast that my wore out 31's were just throwing rocks. So I turned around went down the trail and tried to come back around. I ended up just riding around all day and never running into anyone else and left around 3 or so. Sorry for the discussion, just wanted to give an explanation. But I had a good time and would like to ride again, as soon as I get some better tires.