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[clark123456]

I'm surprised by two things:
1) a Republican is pushing to give money to poor folks
2) anyone would need extra child credits since Donald Trump is President, and we're winning so much some of us are getting tired of it.

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[clark123456]

The FCC vote transferred ISP/internet regulation to the FTC.  Until we see what regulations the FTC comes up with the Net Neutrality issue is much smoke and little flame. 

One thing is pretty clear from recent events.  It's easy to get everyone in the minority party to be against anything.  Getting a majority party to agree  on anything is a lot harder.  Seems Rubio, Lee, and Corker got sweeteners on the tax bill just like Nelson and Landrieu did for the ACA.

Was Rubio fighting for the poor man that already doesn't pay taxes?

Yes

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[Chris36l]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I have a friend who joined a Christian based health insurance-like thing.  It saved him a ton, but he had to commit to bunch of stuff, especially believing in the Trinity.  Medi share, or something like that.  I think they discriminate against smokers.

https://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/

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Yea, I looked into this one. They don't like me, I'm a smoker


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[Chris36l]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I suggest you take another look. I’ve been gathering quotes from all the big companies and you can do it for as little as two employees and even save a little money while getting better coverage. With that said I’m gonna go back to not reading this thread. Y’all have fun and I will see you wheeling.


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I'll do that, it's been about 12 months since we checked into it. My boss just got fed up and said f*** it.


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[Chris36l]

The FCC vote transferred ISP/internet regulation to the FTC.  Until we see what regulations the FTC comes up with the Net Neutrality issue is much smoke and little flame. 

One thing is pretty clear from recent events.  It's easy to get everyone in the minority party to be against anything.  Getting a majority party to agree  on anything is a lot harder.  Seems Rubio, Lee, and Corker got sweeteners on the tax bill just like Nelson and Landrieu did for the ACA.

Was Rubio fighting for the poor man that already doesn't pay taxes?

Yes

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And me. Thanks Rubio!!


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[Anvilsam]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I suggest you take another look. I’ve been gathering quotes from all the big companies and you can do it for as little as two employees and even save a little money while getting better coverage. With that said I’m gonna go back to not reading this thread. Y’all have fun and I will see you wheeling.


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I'll do that, it's been about 12 months since we checked into it. My boss just got fed up and said f*** it.


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So far united healthcare is the cheapest w best coverage


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[Chris36l]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I suggest you take another look. I’ve been gathering quotes from all the big companies and you can do it for as little as two employees and even save a little money while getting better coverage. With that said I’m gonna go back to not reading this thread. Y’all have fun and I will see you wheeling.


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I'll do that, it's been about 12 months since we checked into it. My boss just got fed up and said f*** it.


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So far united healthcare is the cheapest w best coverage


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Our biggest hurdle is that we don't have a consistent number of full time employees. 


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[clark123456]

The FCC vote transferred ISP/internet regulation to the FTC.  Until we see what regulations the FTC comes up with the Net Neutrality issue is much smoke and little flame. 

One thing is pretty clear from recent events.  It's easy to get everyone in the minority party to be against anything.  Getting a majority party to agree  on anything is a lot harder.  Seems Rubio, Lee, and Corker got sweeteners on the tax bill just like Nelson and Landrieu did for the ACA.

Was Rubio fighting for the poor man that already doesn't pay taxes?

Yes

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And me. Thanks Rubio!!


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I'm not sure you understand how what Rubio is fighting for works, or you make much less than I think you do.

He's fighting for a sliding scale for those who don't pay at least $8k in federal tax.  I don't know the income amount required, but I suspect it's around $32k for a family.

Edit: that's for a breeder family with 4 kids...it gets to much less for those who have less children.

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[Anvilsam]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I suggest you take another look. I’ve been gathering quotes from all the big companies and you can do it for as little as two employees and even save a little money while getting better coverage. With that said I’m gonna go back to not reading this thread. Y’all have fun and I will see you wheeling.


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I'll do that, it's been about 12 months since we checked into it. My boss just got fed up and said f*** it.


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So far united healthcare is the cheapest w best coverage


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Our biggest hurdle is that we don't have a consistent number of full time employees. 


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All you really need is two. Offer Insurance to anyone who has been there longer than 6 months.


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[Chris36l]

The FCC vote transferred ISP/internet regulation to the FTC.  Until we see what regulations the FTC comes up with the Net Neutrality issue is much smoke and little flame. 

One thing is pretty clear from recent events.  It's easy to get everyone in the minority party to be against anything.  Getting a majority party to agree  on anything is a lot harder.  Seems Rubio, Lee, and Corker got sweeteners on the tax bill just like Nelson and Landrieu did for the ACA.

Was Rubio fighting for the poor man that already doesn't pay taxes?

Yes

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And me. Thanks Rubio!!


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I'm not sure you understand how what Rubio is fighting for works, or you make much less than I think you do.

He's fighting for a sliding scale for those who don't pay at least $8k in federal tax.  I don't know the income amount required, but I suspect it's around $32k for a family.

Edit: that's for a breeder family with 4 kids...it gets to much less for those who have less children.

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Sorry, a bit of dry humor. I really don't know what he was holding out for. My brother tried to explain it to me in legal jargon and it just sounded like" blah blah blah, someone will be getting more in their tax returns than they paid into taxes for the year, blah blah blah" I just want some sort of tax package to pass, main part of the plan that affects me is the lower rate for pass through business. Means I can finally demand a raise after 5 years of waiting. Woohoo!!!!


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[Chris36l]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I suggest you take another look. I’ve been gathering quotes from all the big companies and you can do it for as little as two employees and even save a little money while getting better coverage. With that said I’m gonna go back to not reading this thread. Y’all have fun and I will see you wheeling.


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I'll do that, it's been about 12 months since we checked into it. My boss just got fed up and said f*** it.


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So far united healthcare is the cheapest w best coverage


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Our biggest hurdle is that we don't have a consistent number of full time employees. 


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All you really need is two. Offer Insurance to anyone who has been there longer than 6 months.


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And it doesn't matter if they are full time or part time?


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[Anvilsam]

According to CNN the internet was suppose to end yesterday.   I guess no one will see this post. 

You may be eating those words if net neutrality is ended. Unless you want the governments input on what you see online.



Wikipedia :
Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers must treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.[4] For instance, under these principles, internet service providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for specific websites and online content.

Which meant netflix (who championed neutrality) who has bandwidth-sucking HD content would be treated the same as your grandma's recipe blog.

"Neutrality" was devised by billion $ corps to protect their brands and pad their bottom line, not to protect consumers. Now that comcast/att/et al can change their pricing structure, expect more competitive rates and spending on internet infrastructure to to increase, and all while smaller startups can enter the market and compete directly with the providers

Until Netflix has agreements with telecom companies to prioritize it's traffic so your netflix bill goes up to pay for that as well as it takes you 20min to get grandma's recipe blog becuase she can't pay for the prioritized traffic tier.  This is all a sham to make telecoms more money and it will NOT make things cheaper for the consumer.

Netflix just went up anyway, prior to net neutrality being repealed. I have a hard time believing that competition will somehow create this massive ISP conglomerate monopoly that's going to slowly jack up rates and box all poor people out of the internet. I also have a hard time believing that anything king Obama touched will somehow benefit me at any point. My health coverage continues to rise in cost and I was just informed that I'll be forced to cover an extra 10% of my health expenses......


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Do you think healthcare (actual service costs) will cost the same in 2018 as they were in 2017?

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To be honest, I don't know. But that's not where my frustration lies. Before this whole thing began, I paid a little more to have a "Cadillac" plan. Once everything went into effect, the "regular" plans that I was offered cost even more than the Cadillac plan I had and have progressively covered less and less. I don't work for a company with a health plan, and every time  I've looked into it for us, we don't have enough employees for it to be cost effective. My out of pocket expenses are through the roof, I'm just looking for some sort of relief.


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I suggest you take another look. I’ve been gathering quotes from all the big companies and you can do it for as little as two employees and even save a little money while getting better coverage. With that said I’m gonna go back to not reading this thread. Y’all have fun and I will see you wheeling.


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I'll do that, it's been about 12 months since we checked into it. My boss just got fed up and said f*** it.


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So far united healthcare is the cheapest w best coverage


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Our biggest hurdle is that we don't have a consistent number of full time employees. 


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All you really need is two. Offer Insurance to anyone who has been there longer than 6 months.


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And it doesn't matter if they are full time or part time?


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That I’m not sure if but I thought you mentioned full time people no staying long.


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