Lifting advice $

[cru9]

You should be fine. The biggest thing in my opinion in off roading is  to make anything you buy last is crawl , smooth. The skinny pedal is what breaks stuff. I am running and modified Dana 30 with 35" tires and I am not worried one bit. You can get C gussets, truss and chromo axles if you want. I would for sure say C Gussets. They cost like $80 plus welding. Just take your time and enjoy the build. I paced my self and buy little things each month

[kent10sne1]

You should be fine. The biggest thing in my opinion in off tossing to make anything you buy last is crawl , smooth. The skinny pedal is what breaks stuff. I am running and modified Dana 30 with 35" tires and I am not worried one bit. You can get C gussets, truss and chromo axles if you want. I would for sure say C Gussets. They cost like $80 plus welding. Just take your time and enjoy the build. I paced my self and buy little things each month

Ok, thanks.  "C gussets"  i need to google that..  see what the "Plus welding" cost is..   but thanks for the info..  i was thinking lift, but now that may not happen till late nxt year unless i run across something cheap...

[cru9]

Call Allsouth. I know Danny can get Artec, maybe pure Jeep and there are several other brands

Poly Performance
EVO

Here is Artec Truss

[BigJerm]

well , crap..   WTF

now im thinking i need to make sure my diff/axel is sufficient to handle what im doing, i dont want to snap anything .     this just keeps getting worse...  is should have  {rtft} the sticker better
and made them upgrade it at the dealer...  :bs)

I need to step back and try and get my mind around this.  ...     the axel/diff gears ,..  geshhhh..  what i get for rushing into this...  so should i look at making sure my gears/diff's/axels are a bit more
beefy first..? i dont want to snap anything..   someone shoot me now!

Relax. This is good reason why you dont need to buy any mods, you don't really know your own Jeep. Its not a bag thing... I didnt know jack crap my first Jeep either but you learn. Relax. Here is the thing about reading all these forums. Everyone has a story, everyone knows someones brother mother cousin who broke a D30 on 33's and who never broke a D35 (1 of the weakest rear axles, no you dont have it, dont ask) on 35's. I have never met you but based on your post and nature of your post on the forums you are probably very timid and light on the gas pedal. As someone else said, gas breaks things. There are probably thousands of Jeeps with 35" tires on completely stock D30 front axles with 0 issues. There are also hundreds, if not a thousand or 2 of Jeeps with a D30 on 35's and have broke it because they were heavy on the gas.

It seems like you are already stuck on the bigger is better thing... lift, tires, bigger axles. Have you even maxed out the capability of your Jeep yet? Any clue how much your swap to a D44 would cost you? lol you think a $400 lift kit cost a lot...

[kent10sne1]

WELL,  ya, i understand.  im just taking this all in.  my first run was at jeepfest, and i was amazed at what i could do, then at Gulches, even more amazed at the stuff i could climb.  and now, windrock, i did some nice climbs, much more than i ever imagined.  i took a bypass when i felt uncomfortable, but mostly, the spotters got me thru the hard stuff..  im not easy on the gass.. just ask the guys here, too much bonuce..bounce.. i have a standard 6speed.  and it took me at gulches to learn how to handle down hills with out my ass flipping over my head..  </LMAO/>  but i learned, the rangers there talked with me some on how to handle going down on a standard. 

but at windrock, the last run, i got a bit nervous, i had to "kirk" bump it too much and there was alot of under...scraping and banging. which .. this is my daily driver, so im a bit on the..  timid side on not wanting to break anything too bad, i know i need to drive some more, all weekend i worked on taking diff. lines to see how my rig flexed and moved. 

i do understand it better, but its hard for me to "crawel" using a standard.  but i will just have to "Learn" i got no choice. 

I hope i did better at windrock, not sure how the rest of the rock-jocks think i did, i would love some more advice and after a run, someone pointing out to me.. what i should have done/not done. etc..   i think i got Mud down after sat at windrock   </LMAO/>  anyway..  thanks , alot of my posts are just getting info, and wanting to take all the advice in and learn what do i want to spend $ on first. 

im prob. going to start with some protection under.. just cause i scrape, bang a bit more than most.   

[kvom]

A lift doesn't give you more clearance, just more room to flex the axle.  More flex lets you handle obstacles while being less off-camber in the tub.  This is good for offroading.

On the minus side, a lift can make on-road performance less good.  Steering, pinion, control arm, and trackbar angles all change.  That's why getting a well engineered lift is critical if you do decide to lift it.

These are some of the reasons for my suggestion to get more experience before deciding on a lift.

[kent10sne1]

A lift doesn't give you more clearance, just more room to flex the axle.  More flex lets you handle obstacles while being less off-camber in the tub.  This is good for offroading.

On the minus side, a lift can make on-road performance less good.  Steering, pinion, control arm, and trackbar angles all change.  That's why getting a well engineered lift is critical if you do decide to lift it.

These are some of the reasons for my suggestion to get more experience before deciding on a lift.

Understood Old wise one!    {popcorn}    im trying to do as much as i can, and learn without breaking my daily driver.   hopefully im making progress..

[Krawler00]

Hey, what's wrong with the D35?!  ;D Less gas = good times. Deeper gears = easier crawling and less gas.  :smoke

[kent10sne1]

A lift doesn't give you more clearance, just more room to flex the axle.  More flex lets you handle obstacles while being less off-camber in the tub.  This is good for offroading.

On the minus side, a lift can make on-road performance less good.  Steering, pinion, control arm, and trackbar angles all change.  That's why getting a well engineered lift is critical if you do decide to lift it.

These are some of the reasons for my suggestion to get more experience before deciding on a lift.

I really had few issues with being less 0ff-camber.  from what i recall.  issues i had on last run, . 

1. being smooth with my cluch, . David told me he could tell i was working it, it smelled..  so i need to work on this..  i think sometimes im too.. jerky.. bouncey... if that makes sense.
2. wheel spin. i would get stuck, and spin the wheels. but i saw alot of ppl do this...
3. scrap/bump/bang.  under .   (causes lots o crap in pants).. this is what scares me the most...  i know alot is how i drive. but. .....

after i went to the local spray / wash and cleaned the underbelly of the beast, i checked for dings/nicks/scrapes..    i have a wheel burn on my driver back..    scratched the black paint off .....

at the moment, im looking for maybe some control arm protectors and maybe something for the tranny/oil.  i would guess that would something I could install pretty easy?  to start.    maybe i can get that before the Dec. 9th holiday ride.   then look at front lockers....     i would also love to try and do a budget boost.. maybe the one with just the shocks.  it seems pretty cheap, and is only a few inches... I already have the bumpstops in, but that would give me a tad more flex if needed.  and the under protection would make me not feel so bad as i learn to drive and do some jerking...  </LMAO/>   i would have to get someone else to help me with the lockers.  as thats wayyyyyyy over my paygrade...     

I would love a winch, but. .  only been out 3 times on my own. and im really careful.  i have that Hi-Jack and straps if i need to get out, its slow, but a poor mans winch.   and 99% im out with you guys, and most of you already have winches....  so thats not bothering me so much...

[bjeep]

 WTF WTF WTF

If you are not dragging,dinging,grinding, you are
not wheeling!! Get over the noise of it and keep going.

[Danny Kinder]

I would do a small BB. The springs will still be factory so it will ride the same! You will just have a little more clearance for tires and less of a chance of crushing your rocker panels.


v v $220.00 v v We can have a shop build day and I'm sure someone would help you install it  ;D

[Danny Kinder]

OR

Kit Contents: 250.00

• Front and rear polyurethane spring spacers
• Front and rear bump stop spacers
• Sway bar end links (RHD Only)
• Front and rear shock extension brackets
• Front brake line drop brackets