Post by: Trailabite on April 15, 2021, 06:45:10 PM
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Post by: Trailabite on April 15, 2021, 08:44:41 PM
How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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Post by: Jeepster1407 on April 15, 2021, 09:38:10 PM
Found a trailer that I didn't need.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/9e5c8f5bc90fd5ca1a88d3a8d2a4fcef.jpg)
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Nice! Since you don’t need it I’ll be glad to take it off your hands.
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Post by: Trailabite on April 15, 2021, 09:38:32 PM
With everything loaded I'm guessing I would be around 7500 to 8000 lbs. That leaves me 3500 to 4000 lbs before I max out so 700 lbs is not a big deal.
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Post by: clark123456 on April 15, 2021, 09:51:03 PM
Post by: TravisMac on April 15, 2021, 10:09:05 PM
18'. Yeah, it is heavier, but had the experience of trying to load my jeep with broken axles on a trailer with drive over fenders and I swore to myself that I will not ever do that again lol. And the width is 102" of open space.I realized when I looked up the curb weight of my trailer it’s actually closer to 2500 😯
With everything loaded I'm guessing I would be around 7500 to 8000 lbs. That leaves me 3500 to 4000 lbs before I max out so 700 lbs is not a big deal.
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Post by: Trailabite on April 15, 2021, 10:25:32 PM
Lol18'. Yeah, it is heavier, but had the experience of trying to load my jeep with broken axles on a trailer with drive over fenders and I swore to myself that I will not ever do that again lol. And the width is 102" of open space.I realized when I looked up the curb weight of my trailer it’s actually closer to 2500
With everything loaded I'm guessing I would be around 7500 to 8000 lbs. That leaves me 3500 to 4000 lbs before I max out so 700 lbs is not a big deal.
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Post by: tjsahara00 on April 16, 2021, 04:32:30 AM
Always wonder about the height of everything loaded.
My trailer listed at 2200lbs but with tool box and 12k winch
has to be close to 2500. The 8 lug trailer I used to haul with
from my brother in law was 3200 lbs.
Post by: Trailabite on April 16, 2021, 07:36:25 AM
Deck over looks like it would be the way to go.On this trailer the deck height is 30", which is 4" shorter than the PJ deck over I had before. I think a regular trailer is 26".
Always wonder about the height of everything loaded.
My trailer listed at 2200lbs but with tool box and 12k winch
has to be close to 2500. The 8 lug trailer I used to haul with
from my brother in law was 3200 lbs.
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Post by: 8lugLJ on April 16, 2021, 10:40:09 AM
How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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what kinda axles give that gvwr?
Post by: Trailabite on April 16, 2021, 10:54:15 AM
I think Dextor axles. 5200 lbs x 2.How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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what kinda axles give that gvwr?
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Post by: Anvilsam on April 16, 2021, 10:58:56 AM
I don’t think that’s how it worksI think Dextor axles. 5200 lbs x 2.How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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Post by: clark123456 on April 16, 2021, 12:47:41 PM
LMAOI don’t think that’s how it worksI think Dextor axles. 5200 lbs x 2.How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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Post by: 8lugLJ on April 16, 2021, 03:09:33 PM
LMAOI don’t think that’s how it worksI think Dextor axles. 5200 lbs x 2.How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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yeah, nope. I knew I only counted 6 lugs. Thats a 10k gvwr trailer, weighs roughly 3k, so your payload capacity is 7k, give or take a few hundo. If it is only 2750 that is the lightest steel deckover ive ever seen. Good lookin trailer tho!
Post by: Trailabite on April 16, 2021, 05:41:51 PM
According to the paperwork and the sticker on the trailer it is 11,500 GVWR.LMAOI don’t think that’s how it worksI think Dextor axles. 5200 lbs x 2.How much does it weigh? I’ve heard the deckovers are heavyCurb weight is 2750
GVRW is 11,500
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yeah, nope. I knew I only counted 6 lugs. Thats a 10k gvwr trailer, weighs roughly 3k, so your payload capacity is 7k, give or take a few hundo. If it is only 2750 that is the lightest steel deckover ive ever seen. Good lookin trailer tho!
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Post by: extremetownie on April 19, 2021, 08:26:42 AM
Post by: Trailabite on April 19, 2021, 08:56:55 AM
The trailer is a little shorter than I thought it would be. I need to add some anchor points to get a more straight of an angle on my straps.
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*edit* averaged 10 mpg there and back cruise control @ 70mph
Post by: 8lugLJ on April 19, 2021, 10:15:25 AM
The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.
I was attempting to err on the side of safety for those that might not know much about trailers or hauling, but please, do whatever yall like. Roger is literally the expert being he builds them for a living, I just haul everyday and own 7 different ones so what do I know [imwstupid] .. Hopefully Chucks JK dont weigh 12k and I doubt he is pulling heavy equipment with a half ton so we'll never know.
Post by: Trailabite on April 19, 2021, 01:36:00 PM
It doesn't yet but I'm working on it!
Post by: clark123456 on April 22, 2021, 03:08:36 PM
The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Post by: 8lugLJ on April 23, 2021, 09:17:59 AM
The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
Post by: tcdawg on April 23, 2021, 09:59:39 AM
The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Post by: clark123456 on April 23, 2021, 10:06:40 AM
Pictures are always appreciated!The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
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Post by: TravisMac on April 23, 2021, 10:33:44 AM
http://cheapatlantamulch.com/The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Much cheaper than buying the bags at home depot even with the delivery fee
Post by: clark123456 on April 23, 2021, 10:58:03 AM
I go to Site One in Kennesaw (near the county airport) for any bulk purchases of hardscapes...about 1/3 the price if I pick it up compared to bagged stuff at a box store.http://cheapatlantamulch.com/The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Much cheaper than buying the bags at home depot even with the delivery fee
Lazy tip: have the mulch, topsoil (e.g., lighter stuff) dumped into buckets or rubbermaid-like storage containers on the trailer...makes moving and dumping it so much easier than a shovel or pitchfork. They are very accomodating at Site One, but the first time there can be intimidating because there aren't very many instructions posted to tell you the process or place to be to get stuff.
Post by: Jeepster1407 on April 23, 2021, 11:11:38 AM
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I've often wondered the same. I personally don't know anyone other than Clark who has been pulled over for private use stuff.
I still have plenty of research to do to understanding GVWR vs GCWR and all that technical shit but the owners manual in my truck says the max towing capacity is 14,500 lbs bumper pull. Not sure on the goose/5th limit. I see what appears to be overweight loads almost daily but don't recall ever actually seeing anyone pulled over for it.
Post by: 8lugLJ on April 23, 2021, 11:17:25 AM
Post by: Trailabite on April 23, 2021, 11:41:07 AM
http://cheapatlantamulch.com/The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Much cheaper than buying the bags at home depot even with the delivery fee
I stay away from bag mulch. My last purchase of bagged included termites!
Post by: tcdawg on April 23, 2021, 12:17:03 PM
Nope. It’s not, when the HD stuff is on sale, 5 for $10.http://cheapatlantamulch.com/The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Much cheaper than buying the bags at home depot even with the delivery fee
And, the bags are easier to move around than a dump load of mulch in your driveway.
Post by: TravisMac on April 23, 2021, 01:40:42 PM
Not sure how often they're on sale that cheap, but regular price is $3.33 a bag. So at 3.33 a bag you're more than $100 more than I paid on 4/1 and didn't require me getting the trailer out, going to HD and have to wait around for them to load it, then cut open and dump 135 plastic bags. I've done the bags before and I'd much rather do the wheelbarrow.Nope. It’s not, when the HD stuff is on sale, 5 for $10.http://cheapatlantamulch.com/The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Much cheaper than buying the bags at home depot even with the delivery fee
And, the bags are easier to move around than a dump load of mulch in your driveway.
Post by: Anvilsam on April 23, 2021, 07:11:05 PM
Must be his senior discountNot sure how often they're on sale that cheap, but regular price is $3.33 a bag. So at 3.33 a bag you're more than $100 more than I paid on 4/1 and didn't require me getting the trailer out, going to HD and have to wait around for them to load it, then cut open and dump 135 plastic bags. I've done the bags before and I'd much rather do the wheelbarrow.Nope. It’s not, when the HD stuff is on sale, 5 for $10.http://cheapatlantamulch.com/The weight rated can be based on the axles or tires or a combination. It is really up to the manufacturer how to calculate it. Also in the industry the wight rating minus the trailer weight does not equal payload capacity . There is no set amount allowed for the hitch to transfer the weight to the truck ,but it is generally 25% on a bumper pull and 30% on a goose neck.I watched a 'trailer selection video' where the guy buying a trailer had it downrated 'so the truck and trailer max would be under the CDL license requirements'. It seems to me the rating doesn't matter to the safety patrol, it's whether you're driving a combination that exceeds the limits of your license. He said down rating was common...y'all ever heard of such a thing? Is he correct in his rationale?
His trailer with dual 7K axles was originally rated at 15.6k-ish and he had it knocked down to 14.4k-ish.
Has anyone other than you Clark ever even been pulled over for a trailer violation?
I haven't
And never will if I didn't get pulled over last weekend with a super sketch pallet of bagged mulch on my trailer. Idiot HD guy couldn't load it right, broke the pallet which made it lean back and my strapping was somewhat lackluster. Had two LEO's pass me on Hwy 92 and never even turned their heads at me. I wasn't over-weight, not even close, but the whole thing just looked awful.
Much cheaper than buying the bags at home depot even with the delivery fee
And, the bags are easier to move around than a dump load of mulch in your driveway.
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