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Title: Need a new floor jack
Post by: BigMike on January 27, 2016, 08:40:02 AM
I finally have to get rid of the Craftsman 3 ton floor jack that I bought in 1997. 

I want to buy a 3 ton aluminum floor jack.  I looked at Harbor Freight and Northern Tool.  I assume that no matter where you buy one, they're all imports. 

Suggestions (cost is a factor)
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: tcdawg on January 27, 2016, 08:47:53 AM
I bought a 3 ton at HF about 5 years ago and still have it. Works great and has never let me down.
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: BigMike on January 27, 2016, 08:52:20 AM
I bought a 3 ton at HF about 5 years ago and still have it. Works great and has never let me down.

Great to hear for 2 reasons.  One, it works.  Two, if it let you down, you might be dead.  :)
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: BigMike on January 27, 2016, 08:53:46 AM
The Arcan at Northern Tool gets great reviews.

I found a Made in USA jack.  Hein Werner, but steel.  3 ton for $367.  I could be two Harbor Freight aluminum jacks for that. 
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: DOUG on January 27, 2016, 09:30:53 AM
I bought a 3 ton at HF about 5 years ago and still have it. Works great and has never let me down.

Great to hear for 2 reasons.  One, it works.  Two, if it let you down, you might be dead.  :)

No way, he always has a stand in place if he is under it
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Blue J on January 27, 2016, 09:58:35 AM
i just picked one up at Lowes...I want to say it was about   $140
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: clark123456 on January 27, 2016, 10:42:06 AM
The Arcan at Northern Tool gets great reviews.


That's the one I have.  HF crap gave out pretty fast for me...other people have better experience than me and YMMV.
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: patman on January 27, 2016, 10:57:10 AM
The Arcan at Northern Tool gets great reviews.


That's the one I have.  HF crap gave out pretty fast for me...other people have better experience than me and YMMV.

How did it give out? Just leaks down or did something actually break?
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: clark123456 on January 27, 2016, 11:52:24 AM
The Arcan at Northern Tool gets great reviews.


That's the one I have.  HF crap gave out pretty fast for me...other people have better experience than me and YMMV.

How did it give out? Just leaks down or did something actually break?
wouldn't stay pumped up...something I'm sure happens with age.

- Torg

Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: tcdawg on January 27, 2016, 02:46:46 PM
I bought a 3 ton at HF about 5 years ago and still have it. Works great and has never let me down.

Great to hear for 2 reasons.  One, it works.  Two, if it let you down, you might be dead.  :)

No way, he always has a stand in place if he is under it

Always....

I Always use a jack stand(s)
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: kvom on January 27, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
Works great and has never let me down.

Does that mean you can jack up the jeep but not lower it?
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: patman on January 27, 2016, 03:07:13 PM
The Arcan at Northern Tool gets great reviews.


That's the one I have.  HF crap gave out pretty fast for me...other people have better experience than me and YMMV.

How did it give out? Just leaks down or did something actually break?
wouldn't stay pumped up...something I'm sure happens with age.

- Torg



It's just an o-ring that seals it up. I think it's a pretty generic size as well
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: clark123456 on January 27, 2016, 03:31:37 PM
The Arcan at Northern Tool gets great reviews.


That's the one I have.  HF crap gave out pretty fast for me...other people have better experience than me and YMMV.

How did it give out? Just leaks down or did something actually break?
wouldn't stay pumped up...something I'm sure happens with age.

- Torg



It's just an o-ring that seals it up. I think it's a pretty generic size as well
I still have it...I'll see if I can fix it.

- Torg

Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Mortalis5509 on July 19, 2016, 12:36:58 AM
Mike - what did you end up with? 

Looking to pick up a lightweight aluminum to store in the trailer rather than the 'oh jeezus this is heavy' steel jack that I keep loading/unloading.  The rest of the tools aren't really that big of a deal to load/unload but getting that jack on/off the trailer flat out sucks.  Using Clark's to change the trailer tire was a much nicer ordeal than when I had to use the steel jack the day after.  Looking at the Arcan or Powerzone 3T on amazon.  Was thinking about going to a 1.5T or 2T jack since really, I would never  be jacking up a total of 3T - the vehicle is 3T but I'm only jacking up 1/4-1/3 of it, even if doing a trailer tire with the Jeep on it.  I'm not really looking to spend Craftsman money, but, and no offense to those that have them, not buying anything else from Harbor Freight after the last 3 things I bought there either didn't work at all or broke after a couple uses.
Harbor Freight AL jacks. I have had a 3 ton for 3 years with no issues. They go on sale often. Ruffstuff even makes a thing that the smaller ones sit on to use for offroading. That way the wheels won't sink and all. If the offroad world makes something for them, worth considering imo. 
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Mortalis5509 on July 19, 2016, 12:44:39 AM
Mike - what did you end up with? 

Looking to pick up a lightweight aluminum to store in the trailer rather than the 'oh jeezus this is heavy' steel jack that I keep loading/unloading.  The rest of the tools aren't really that big of a deal to load/unload but getting that jack on/off the trailer flat out sucks.  Using Clark's to change the trailer tire was a much nicer ordeal than when I had to use the steel jack the day after.  Looking at the Arcan or Powerzone 3T on amazon.  Was thinking about going to a 1.5T or 2T jack since really, I would never  be jacking up a total of 3T - the vehicle is 3T but I'm only jacking up 1/4-1/3 of it, even if doing a trailer tire with the Jeep on it.  I'm not really looking to spend Craftsman money, but, and no offense to those that have them, not buying anything else from Harbor Freight after the last 3 things I bought there either didn't work at all or broke after a couple uses.
Harbor Freight AL jacks. I have had a 3 ton for 3 years with no issues. They go on sale often. Ruffstuff even makes a thing that the smaller ones sit on to use for offroading. That way the wheels won't sink and all. If the offroad world makes something for them, worth considering imo. 

Not happening.
What's wrong with them?
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: jc79 on July 19, 2016, 12:54:57 AM
Since you're going HF look for a coupon.














(Yes, this is just to stir the pot)
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: clark123456 on July 19, 2016, 06:05:19 AM
I got my Arcan at Northern Tool on 41.  Sometimes they send coupons, too. 

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Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: tcdawg on July 19, 2016, 08:43:39 AM
Mike - what did you end up with? 

Looking to pick up a lightweight aluminum to store in the trailer rather than the 'oh jeezus this is heavy' steel jack that I keep loading/unloading.  The rest of the tools aren't really that big of a deal to load/unload but getting that jack on/off the trailer flat out sucks.  Using Clark's to change the trailer tire was a much nicer ordeal than when I had to use the steel jack the day after.  Looking at the Arcan or Powerzone 3T on amazon.  Was thinking about going to a 1.5T or 2T jack since really, I would never  be jacking up a total of 3T - the vehicle is 3T but I'm only jacking up 1/4-1/3 of it, even if doing a trailer tire with the Jeep on it.  I'm not really looking to spend Craftsman money, but, and no offense to those that have them, not buying anything else from Harbor Freight after the last 3 things I bought there either didn't work at all or broke after a couple uses.

1. Interested in a lighter floor jack for my tool box as well and have looked a little.  1.5 ton is the size I was thinking.

2.  Also intrested in knowing just how heavy your steel one is for YOU to say it's "oh jeezus this is heavy"?
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: clark123456 on July 19, 2016, 10:17:24 AM
Mike - what did you end up with? 

Looking to pick up a lightweight aluminum to store in the trailer rather than the 'oh jeezus this is heavy' steel jack that I keep loading/unloading.  The rest of the tools aren't really that big of a deal to load/unload but getting that jack on/off the trailer flat out sucks.  Using Clark's to change the trailer tire was a much nicer ordeal than when I had to use the steel jack the day after.  Looking at the Arcan or Powerzone 3T on amazon.  Was thinking about going to a 1.5T or 2T jack since really, I would never  be jacking up a total of 3T - the vehicle is 3T but I'm only jacking up 1/4-1/3 of it, even if doing a trailer tire with the Jeep on it.  I'm not really looking to spend Craftsman money, but, and no offense to those that have them, not buying anything else from Harbor Freight after the last 3 things I bought there either didn't work at all or broke after a couple uses.

1. Interested in a lighter floor jack for my tool box as well and have looked a little.  1.5 ton is the size I was thinking.

2.  Also intrested in knowing just how heavy your steel one is for YOU to say it's "oh jeezus this is heavy"?
Exactly!!! it must be a full vehicle lift to make Don state that.
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: jd30005 on July 19, 2016, 10:22:28 AM
Looks like Northern Tool has an Arcan 2 ton all aluminum on sale right now.


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345428_200345428 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345428_200345428)



Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Mortalis5509 on July 19, 2016, 10:42:47 AM
Looks like Northern Tool has an Arcan 2 ton all aluminum on sale right now.


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345428_200345428 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345428_200345428)
Looks nice, but looks like a rebox HF jack. Don won't like that.
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: clark123456 on July 19, 2016, 11:09:05 AM
Looks like Northern Tool has an Arcan 2 ton all aluminum on sale right now.


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345428_200345428 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200345428_200345428)
Looks nice, but looks like a rebox HF jack. Don won't like that.
I think that is the one I have. 
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Mortalis5509 on July 19, 2016, 12:04:28 PM
I was making a joke out of it.

What makes the one NT carry any better than HF or amazon for that matter? Real question.
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Mortalis5509 on July 19, 2016, 01:00:16 PM
I was making a joke out of it.

What makes the one NT carry any better than HF or amazon for that matter? Real question.

brand experience as I stated in my original question.

I haven't bought a lot from NT but what I have still works.
I haven't bought a lot from HF and what I have broke after a few times or never worked at all.
I have bought a lot a lot from Amazon and what I have still works, what has broken they swapped our or returned with little fuss.

What makes Poison Spyder or MetalCloak better than Rugged Ridge or Smittybuilt?  You can argue merits of each product all day long but a generalization can be made from group experience.  While I have wine taste on a beer budget, I choose to buy things I have confidence in rather than the cheapest I can find.  I don't/won't buy a Kia becuase of this for example.  They've come a long way from where they started so my mind may change on that but in correlation, I am not aware of a mass change of mind on Harbor Freight.  You don't hear - wow they used to suck but now they're really stepping up their game.  There are a percentage of folks that their products work fine for whether it's a different level of use or they're just lucky.  I'm just not willing to gamble that I am not in that percentage since I have lost 100% of the time so far with HF.  For example, you mentioned skids by Ruffstuff, the first thing they say on their page - "Harbor Freight jacks do not have the tightest of tolerances, some ob-longing of bolt holes or sanding of areas of the skid may be needed for some jacks to bolt up properly"  I don't know about you, but something that my life could depend on, should not be known for having loose tolerances, jack stand or not.
I get that. Most of it is made in China or a similar country. Why you use jack stands. In the end, there is little difference in most things. I gave my feedback. If it was bad I would have said so. 3 years no problems. I buy expensive stuff where it counts. One of the reason I have a unfinished rig still.

Hyundai / Kai is one hell of a car. For the money I don't know what rivals it. She bought the car new, I changed tires and brakes at a little over 80k from factory. She had 116k with no issues. Changed the transmission fluid, oil, plugs, and air filter. No issues. Oil analysis had it going 9 - 10k on oil changes.
Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: Jeepster1407 on July 19, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
My pockets aren't quite deep enough for snap on or Mac so I stuck with a 3 ton steel HF rapid pump jack that works great for the price. If I had more $ to spend I would have possibly bought another brand but at less than $70 it seems to be great. Their pro line seems to be much better than standard HF junk. I'd NEVER buy drills or anything electric like that from there though. I had 4 1/2 grinder that didn't last very long at all.


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Title: Re: Need a new floor jack
Post by: SemperFiArms on July 20, 2016, 12:28:25 AM
As a former professional mechanic for 25 years I probably have more in tools than I do in my house. I have a lot of the major brands, Snap-On, Mac, Craftsman, Matco, and several others. I've bought a lot of things from both NT and HF but most of the time it was what I consider throw away tools. These were the ones I would cut or weld on to make a special tool for doing a specific job. I've both good and bad from both locations. I'm a firm believer in you get what you pay for.   

I currently have a HF floor jack that I got 5 or 6 years ago and it's still working just fine. It's seen quite a bit of use over the past two and a half years. YMMV