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ghostdancer308

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Thinking of buying a MAC
« on: September 04, 2009, 07:47:22 AM »
Ok all you tech freaks. I have a Toshiba satellite and its just over a year old. I was thinking about crossing over to the MAC(Book, or BookPro) side. Give me some input. Thanks!! {toast}

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 08:11:09 AM »



Why switch?

The 10 reasons that Apple must think is imperative for making the change from a PC to a MAC can be found on their website. Of course if you have the time to read through all of them you realise that these 10 features or reasons have been standard with the PC a long, long, long time. Some of the reasons are just plain myths that Apple invented. Probably because they ran out of fabricated facts.
So take the journey through the 10 commandments of a mac-enthusiast and enjoy their naive attitude towards personal computing.

1. The Mac... It just works

This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that all people that own macs are really satisfied with their computers and would never switch back. This is ofcourse not true. If you read our Real stories you will find all kinds of interesting stories about owning a mac.
The mac owner will also tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many mac:s can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
Apple also states: "Only with a Mac do you get an operating system built by the same people who built the computer it runs on.". Actually Apple's Mac OS X (the operating system) is not based on their own technology, but by the technology of freeBSD. Apple's own capabilities in form of creating an operating system have been demonstrated in previous versions of Mac OS. It took an operating system based on someone else's technology to get a Mac multitasking and not behaving like an oversized pocket calculator from 1985.


2. It doesn't crash

Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. Why else would Apple themselves run their india website on Linux RedHat?
There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then!

 

3. Simply the best in digital music

This point is actually based on Apple's iPod. I must admit, the iPod is not an ugly creation. I'll give Apple credit for that. But as always, they exaggerate the benefits of their product. Apple was far from first with creating a portable mp3-player with a built in harddrive but on the other side they do offer the most expensive solution.
The iPod is about 40-60% more expensive than technologically equal products. Keep in mind also that it offers no recording option and no belt clip. Two very crucial benefits a portable mp3-player should have.

 

4. The missing link in digital photography

It's amazing! Apple has invented a program called iPhotos that will revolutionize the way we look at digital photos. Hear what they have to say: "Simply drag your mouse, and iPhoto magically grows or shrinks your photo thumbnails. So you can view individual shots in detail or see hundreds of photos on the screen at once...".
Maybe mac users are new to digital photos on the computer but on the pc we have a huge variety of freeware that does the job of iPhoto and more, to choose from. So when Apple says that they are "the missing link in digital photography" maybe what they meant was that iPhoto is the missing link of the Mac.
Windows users reached that stage of evolution ages ago.

 

5. Your own digital entertainment center

It seems that Apple thinks that they've revolutionized computing by developing mediocre software for viewing digital photos, editing video, burning CDs and DVDs and listening to music. Well they haven't!

 

6. Goes everywhere you go

You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:

    * Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
      — Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the world.
    * Can you put the system to sleep just by closing the lid?
      — Oh my god, a Mac can do that? Well, so can a PC!
    * Does it wake up instantly?
      —Duh!
    * Can your PC laptop automatically switch between Ethernet,
      dial-up and wireless connections on the fly?
      —Without a doubt!
    * Without a restart?
      Is this a joke? This really proves that Apple has no clue on what their competitors are doing. If they never have used a PC running Windows it makes their tests and objective sayings about the Mac really credible. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.

 

7. It's built for the internet

Apple makes a huge point about the easability of configuring an internet connection on a mac. All new Windows versions come with just as easy to use guides for connecting to the internet with modem, lan or anything else. They also brag about such obvious tools of communication like email, favorites and contacts. Yes Apple, this is really new and hot stuff, you are indeed innovative. Or maybe not.
The worst part might be that they lie about their under average video-plugin Quicktime. This might be one of the worst programs ever to install. Actually if some students at a university needed an example of a really poorly written program, this would be a perfect opportunity for Quicktime to step into the limelight.

 

8. Office is Office, and then some

Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:

"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"

Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:

"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"

As you might expect they mention nothing on what these features are. Well they're probably just wonderfully, perfectly and amazingly non-existent!

 

9. Works effortlessly with PCs

Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.

"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."

They also reveal amazing means of medias you can use on your mac:

..."you can also swap files via data CD, floppies or Zip disks."

 

10. It's beautiful

Apple emphasises that all their products are masterpieces of design. Their problem is that their focus on design hinders them from creating ergonomical and practical machines. If you have ever used the small round iMac mouse you have probably too suffered from aches in arm and hand.

"...ergonomic products that are the toast of the design world..."

It wasn't I who brought up the word toast into the debate. On the other hand it was I who drew the paralell to machines looking like plain household machines. Who wants a computer that look like a remnant from the 70's like the one on my right. You could probably achieve the same state of hallucination if staring long enough on this iMac, that you could by inhaling large amounts of heavy drugs.

So what have we learned from these 10 points that Apple provides for the potential buyer. We have learned that Apple likes to tell their future customers that the mac is built on technology they probably already are using on their PCs. They also lure the extremely naive buyers with words like internet, word-processing and cd-burning.

Please do not be fooled. You have nothing to gain by switching to a Mac. Apple has proved it on their own, with a little help from us.
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ghostdancer308

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 08:23:19 AM »
Ouch! I guess you don't like MAC?LOL!! Good read.  {toast}

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 08:47:29 AM »
No, I have always been a PC guy. Me & adam have been building them since we were 16. I have had 1 mac. I do not care for them. Most people that do are graphic/photo people. But you can still do the same stuff on a PC.

{nln} MAC {nln}
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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 08:50:12 AM »
Cool. I am still thinking of selling this Laptop I have now. I have a month to decide. A bunch of the guys I work with swear by MAC. I will keep you posted on what I do! Thanks for your input. {salute}

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 09:13:26 AM »
G, I am a designer, I prefer macs due to the fact that they are better IMO in design applications etc. I have both and have had more trouble with my PCs than my mac. Both have issues but the other big issue is software. You can't just walk into walmart and buy a game or software like you can a PC. If I were you I would get a PC laptop to save some green for Jeep parts. Make that... Gucci parts! I know your taste! ;D
I've grown tired of this.

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 09:14:45 AM »
I have had both PC's and MAC's.  I currently have a MAC and will not be going back to a PC anytime soon (I have had my MAC for several years).  For anyone who is interested in switching to a MAC I would ask these questions:

How do you use your computer?  

An example is if you program in .NET switching to a MAC can be problematic since MAC does not support .NET.  You would have to run Windows within the MAC OS which can be expensive.

What is your price range?

Lets just say Apple is proud of their product and charges a premium for it.  But iWorks and iLife are much less in cost than Microsoft Office.

Do you have any other Apple products?

These are the same questions that I would ask anyone looking at Linux (of course there is not cost with that switch).

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 09:41:45 AM »
Both of you guys hit a very serious issue with macs and that is price.

You can get alot more pc for the money. Stay away from Compaq. They put more junk on a new computer then any company I have seen, and always have issues of freezing up. I bought a cheap E machine to do all my GATR work on. I had to upgrade the memory right away just to run VISTA.  But other than that, the PC has never had a problem, no viruses, no freezing, etc. I was sketchy about buying an Emachine at first, but for a secondary CPU I did not want to spend alot. Excellent product though. It was cheaper to buy it than build another.

I have an HP laptop that I absolutely despise.  >:(
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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 10:02:03 AM »
Now with Mac's snow leopard and safari, I keep hearing there is not many viruses out there for Mac. I see snow leopard is also suppose to let you run both windows applications and Linux OS. What is your take on that?

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2009, 10:22:24 AM »
My personal favorite Mac statement.  "Programs don't crash"

See in Windows when something dies it tells you and why.  My experience with Macs is that a program will just go away and shout *LALALA I WAS NEVER OPEN LALALA*  I was in the middle of typing a sentence and the program just disappeared. No error, no autosave on the crash, no message when I reopened it, nothing.

I like Apple product for their form but that's about it.

I just priced out a Macbook with identical specs as my laptop.  The only difference is that mine is a 12" instead of the 13.3" Macbook which should actually make mine a bit more since it's an uncommon size.  I got mine for $1100 to my door, retails around $1250.  The Mac is $1898.  Both are 2.53 Core 2 Centrino, 4GB DDR2, 500GB HDD, 3 year warranty. Mine even has a HDMI port that Win 7 handles magnificently.

Another one of my gripes about Macbooks is that to save space they use proprietary connectors up the ass.

And 7 hour battery? Whoever at Apple that came up with that spec was high or something.  They must not have been using it at all with all peripherals turned off.  I get a legitimate 4.5 out of mine and most Macs that I've used are similar.  It's not like they use any special hardware that would give them better battery life.

BUT, if you do get a Mac you will most likely be happy with it, they are good machines.  Especially if you dual-booted Win 7  ;)

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 10:28:21 AM »
Snow Leopard is the next OS for MAC and is not GA yet.  The current version of MAC OSX does support dual booting of Windows (as long as you buy new since it needs the Intel chipset).  With an Intel MAC you can run Windows two ways.  You can dual boot the machine so that only one OS is running at a time or you can use Parallels which allow Windows to run within the MAC OS (like another shell). 

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Re: Thinking of buying a MAC
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2009, 10:47:45 AM »
Wow Matt.  Did you just spit that out, or is a blog, or did you have that saved from a previous write up you did?  Strong info.

Mac for graphics people that do it 24/7.

PC for real people.   :P

 



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