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MEMBERS DISCUSSION AREA => General Discussion => Topic started by: tjsahara00 on July 01, 2016, 06:29:25 AM
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I'm a member and used to be on staff
of North Ga Jeepers...... checked their
page today and saw the response by
a staff member to someone saying the
club was dead......
Bout like NGJ......DEAD!
This is how a staff member responded so everyone could see;
Well if members would get off their #$$e$ and
get involved maybe this group wouldn't be "DEAD".
This comment was not directed at you it's was meant
for the group as a whole....
This is what I think about it..........
When a club your in is not going well and
they just schedule meet and greets, a swap
meet to sell parts. Don't schedule any rides
and the club page has crickets chirping then
someone makes a comment like that.....
Don't blame the members
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lol. I guess that is one way to get the point across.
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well im confused. has kevin had his medication this morning?
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why confused Kent.....
I'm a member and used to be on staff
of North Ga Jeepers...... checked their
page today and saw the response by
a staff member to someone saying the
club was dead......
I personally think he should go f himself
They don't try getting people to ride any
more and only post meet and greets every
where on social media but hardly even post
on the club web page...but was quick to
make comments like that to the members.
So if it's dead then it's because of the staff
in my opinion.....
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GATR is only alive because of its members, it has nothing to do with the staff, at all. The scheduling of trips, handling of leading groups at the open events, maintaining the forum, POTM, etc...has nothing to do with a successful off-road club.
LOL. Just kidding. Praise be to all of the staff. Sorry, praise be to Allah, but the staff is really close to Allah.
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why confused Kent.....
I'm a member and used to be on staff
of North Ga Jeepers...... checked their
page today and saw the response by
a staff member to someone saying the
club was dead......
I personally think he should go f himself
They don't try getting people to ride any
more and only post meet and greets every
where on social media but hardly even post
on the club web page...but was quick to
make comments like that to the members.
So if it's dead then it's because of the staff
in my opinion.....
LOL sorry, i only saw your statement, did not know any history. was not sure if u had gone postal (you have been known to be Odd at times, but then again, many of our Staff has known to be Odd.. ).
going back to sleep. :)
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Trust me I know....I resurrected that club for over a year.
I couldn't hardly get them to ride out of state so I gave up
on trying. BUT I never once took the opportunity to tell the
members to get off their ass.....
Just hit me wrong reading his comments
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Trust me I know....I resurrected that club for over a year.
I couldn't hardly get them to ride out of state so I gave up
on trying. BUT I never once took the opportunity to tell the
members to get off their ass.....
Just hit me wrong reading his comments
Well hopefully we do better. i know we ride a lot, we do a few meets, but im glad we are mostly a wheeling bunch. still. we cook, drink.. generally just have a good time. the staff does a great job of keeping us focused and on task.
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GATR is only alive because of its members, it has nothing to do with the staff, at all. The scheduling of trips, handling of leading groups at the open events, maintaining the forum, POTM, etc...has nothing to do with a successful off-road club.
LOL. Just kidding. Praise be to all of the staff. Sorry, praise be to Allah, but the staff is really close to Allah.
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Clarke, you are, in part, correct. It takes the staff to maintain a club but active members to make a club.
While I 100% agree with Kevins comments I don't think it's productive to bad mouth another club. Just let them slowly die off & enjoy all that GATR has to offer.
I too am a former staff member of NGJ & stepped down due to a lack of folks "giving a sh!t". I enjoy wheeling not talking about it. I also enjoy meet & greets but I think they should be held at offroad parks or after a ride, not instead of a ride.
But they are doing their best with what they have to work with.
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Ok i confess. It was my comment that got the staff upset...
I really only check in there because there's some folks who live close to me who I'm still friends with. guess I'll have to start FB messaging them...
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No doubt GATR members make it great. Staff are members too, but do a little more. Everyone has input.
Danny has really stepped up the last couple of years to make sure rides and calendars get posted. Thanks.
It's awesome to have folks that like to wheel and CAN afford the time and expense to do it together in places that offer serious challenges in legal settings. GATR CORE rigs are getting big and very capable.
But please make note,
we must continue to welcome the stock rigs and newbs and provide leadership for them at every level, rides and advice, for the club to continue to thrive and survive.
We need a good group of stock rigs and parks that have level 1 trails.
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I agree with you @Doug. We all started stock at one point. It seems most "Clubs" die when the founders and/or original members leave...
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Great points, @Doug . Damn, that really hurt to type :) I really should be willing to ride the level 1 trails more often. That'll be a self improvement task I take.
If I was a staffer for a club that didn't have participating members, I'd probably stop trying to be a good staffer. I believe it goes both ways, but without dedicated leadership, the members won't be dedicated either.
I have seen what happens to a club of slacker members with just one leader/staff who cares...it is hell on the leader/staff. I'm glad we have the staff we have, and the members we have. Some members do not know they have an obligation in making the club better.
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Doug it also goes the other way also.....
Trying to convince mostly stockers to expand
and try different places and things. God that's
why I Love GATR.......I started with 2'' lift on
32's.......I wanted more so I drove to Gulches,
I drove to Aetna, I drove to Durhamtown, I
drove to Tellico, I drove to Beasley Knob and
I learned....You can go to these places and have
fun then drive home. At the same time watching
the other rigs, learning, finding out what a freakin
Rubicon Jeep was and why the hell didn't I buy one.
So it' one thing to abandon newbies but also never
be willing to expand can be just as bad and practically
the death of a club!!
GATR will always be the standard for Off Roading
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Ok i confess. It was my comment that got the staff upset...
I really only check in there because there's some folks who live close to me who I'm still friends with. guess I'll have to start FB messaging them...
The club needed it. Maybe it will lite a fire under some & jumpstart the club. God knows it's on life support.
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Ok i confess. It was my comment that got the staff upset...
I really only check in there because there's some folks who live close to me who I'm still friends with. guess I'll have to start FB messaging them...
The club needed it. Maybe it will lite a fire under some & jumpstart the club. God knows it's on life support.
I had my say.
I don't like when leaders don't take ownership for things. I have seen it here though.
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I don't like when leaders don't take ownership for things. I have seen it here though.
Speak up, let's hear your issues.
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Doug it also goes the other way also.....
Trying to convince mostly stockers to expand
and try different places and things. God that's
why I Love GATR.......I started with 2'' lift on
32's.......I wanted more so I drove to Gulches,
I drove to Aetna, I drove to Durhamtown, I
drove to Tellico, I drove to Beasley Knob and
I learned....You can go to these places and have
fun then drive home. At the same time watching
the other rigs, learning, finding out what a freakin
Rubicon Jeep was and why the hell didn't I buy one.
So it' one thing to abandon newbies but also never
be willing to expand can be just as bad and practically
the death of a club!!
GATR will always be the standard for Off Roading
Well said Keven, I am an example of that as well.
I didn't buy my jeep to run around and socialize. I fully understand that there are limitations to what I can do with a WJ. Even then it will surprise me with it's actual capabilities. While there are going to be a lot of trails the it will never be able to do, I am able to ride some of the intermediate quite a bit at the parks. What's most important is the group I am doing it with and how we all respect each other for not only the vehicle's ability but the drivers as well.
After Dave stepped down they asked me to be a staff member. I accepted and worked on a few projects for the club but had to scale back due to some things going on in my personal and professional life. Like Dave (and a few others) I'd get aggravated that folks would come on and say they looking for a group to ride with but when a ride was posted on the calendar or and unscheduled one nobody seemed interested in going. Then there is the fear of riding at a park out of state. Don't get that one either. ???
I decided this past spring that I would be supporting NGJ some but ultimately I want to ride. This means I will go with a club that wants to ride. While I know I won't make all, I will go out and do the ones I can depending on life at home and my work schedule.
I for one am thankful that GATR is a club who respects all the members abilities and will also encourage growth in both the rig and driver. THis was evident last weekend when I decided to follow the intermediate group Saturday afternoon. I wouldn't have attempted to do Tombstone without the invitation extended by Bobby, Kent, and the rest of the group.
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Yeap, it takes a leap of faith sometimes. My very first trip with GATR was at AOP. The first trail we hit was 47. I looked at the obstacles & was scared shit less to say the least.
But I trust Kevins judgment & after some awesome spotting from Rob trust him & the others in that group as well. I thought I knew what wheelin was, now I truly do.
I have a 89 Cherokee, POS edition. If I can drive mine to the parks & beat on it there is NO reason other people can't drive their newer vehicles there as well & have a blast.
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I don't like when leaders don't take ownership for things. I have seen it here though.
Speak up, let's hear your issues.
@tjsahara00 had better take his blood pressure meds! Lol
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Yeap, it takes a leap of faith sometimes. My very first trip with GATR was at AOP. The first trail we hit was 47. I looked at the obstacles & was scared shit less to say the least.
But I trust Kevins judgment & after some awesome spotting from Rob trust him & the others in that group as well. I thought I knew what wheelin was, now I truly do.
I have a 89 Cherokee, POS edition. If I can drive mine to the parks & beat on it there is NO reason other people can't drive their newer vehicles there as well & have a blast.
You did awesome on that trip.
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Thanks John. If it wasn't for the awesome group of people called GATR I'd still be clueless.
Chris (semperfiarms) is correct. You don't have to conquer double black diamond trails to have fun. At Crawling for Reid I was following Kevins son in law around the easier stuff & was having a great time on trails I'd never been on. Plus, it was fun watching Hector expand on his wheeling skills.
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Thanks John. If it wasn't for the awesome group of people called GATR I'd still be clueless.
Chris (semperfiarms) is correct. You don't have to conquer double black diamond trails to have fun. At Crawling for Reid I was following Kevins son in law around the easier stuff & was having a great time on trails I'd never been on. Plus, it was fun watching Hector expand on his wheeling skills.
I agree. I'm happy getting on the trails and leaving the "daily grind" behind. Regardless of the type of trail. It's just great being outdoors with other people that enjoy it as well. Looking forward to Hale...
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I don't like when leaders don't take ownership for things. I have seen it here though.
Speak up, let's hear your issues.
I guess I took it more personal than anyone else only becuase I helped with the event and donated a $300 cooler (wife helps as well). I wasn't very happy about the deleting of post concerning a benefit ride for wounded vets. A lot of those guys are hurt or paid the ultimate price for us to ride jeeps and do what we do in life. It appears that just because another forum puts it on, those post were deleted. I know the letters of that forum and even the name can not be typed into a thread or pm without an auto delete set up. Care less about the auto delete of words but a whole heck of a lot about post pertaining to raising money for those current and past vets. It would be like deleting cross post for Reid and his fund raiser. Just isn't right.
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I'm really surprised that you are bent over the enforcement of a rule that you know about. Nothing sneaky or underhanded took place. I deleted the post and sent a pm to the op so it could be reposted.
Shortly after I removed the post, it was reposted without the reference to another club and the post stayed. This is how it is supposed to work.
The event was paramount, not the club. The event was posted, promoted, and publicized. The event is for a great cause. I'm glad you donated your time and money. The end result was that the event for a great cause was posted on GATR, which is exactly what you wanted.
It is not like a Crawling for Reid post that has no club affiliations. Yes the 2 champions are members here and most of the volunteers are from GATR, but CFR is independent of any club. I think the CFR staff has been very wise and purposeful about keeping it independent from any one club and promoting to all without a club affiliation.
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Thanks John. If it wasn't for the awesome group of people called GATR I'd still be clueless.
Chris (semperfiarms) is correct. You don't have to conquer double black diamond trails to have fun. At Crawling for Reid I was following Kevins son in law around the easier stuff & was having a great time on trails I'd never been on. Plus, it was fun watching Hector expand on his wheeling skills.
I agree. I'm happy getting on the trails and leaving the "daily grind" behind. Regardless of the type of trail. It's just great being outdoors with other people that enjoy it as well. Looking forward to Hale...
Hell, I enjoy not being at risk on some trails. That's not to say I want to only ride them, but I like the down time. I am going to make an effort to do mixed riding. I would volunteer to lead more, but I'm a horrible judge of what rigs qualify to do what obstacles. I still remember thinking I made a poor choice at Golden on one trail that was obviously more risky than I thought, when I was spotting. We all got through it, but it was more intense than I should have put people through.
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All kidding aside, I have been happy with the way the club is run, I have had issues, but they where addressed in a professional and honorable manor, even if i was acting like a A$$. The staff takes much heat, criticalness is easy when your not having to be accountable for the decisions you make. Its much harder to be a leader when you stand behind your decisions.
This is not a small band of friends, i have seen them go out of their way to make others feel included, they encourage and guide by example, which is one of the best most effective forms of leadership.
When i joined i had a stock JK, they gave me space when needed and guidance when they felt it was time to step in. Sure... they will not/never make 100% of the club 100% happy 100% of the time, but over all its work, and these guys give of time and effort in the hope that most will have a good wheeling experience. the social side is , much harder, sure we hang by the fire at nite, cook, have debates. each person is different... but they are pretty respectful imo.
I have seen other clubs, spoken with them, and i think this is personally the best one around.. I feel their example has made the general membership better.. not perfect. like any group, we have A$$holes ( i know im one) but they do a great job of keeping it all together and focused on wheeling, which is why we are suppose to be here.
the social aspect is a by-product. it can be fun at times and stressful at times.. we are all adults and need to learn , "life's not fair" your not always going to get the undevided attention of the staff.. they are trying to include everyone.. Plus.. they want to wheel and have fun too...
I understand the frustration they feel at times, anyone thats had to manage people know this.
if you feel frustrated, I think Doug or others may have said. speak with a Staff member, they are adults and will discuss any issue with you, .. that does not mean they agree or u will like the outcome.. but they will be professional and respectful in discussion, just remember to act in kind.
If you read this far, God help u, as my rants can be exhausting. sorry.. im just a crazy old fat man .. 'wheres my chap-stick'
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I'm really surprised that you are bent over the enforcement of a rule that you know about. Nothing sneaky or underhanded took place. I deleted the post and sent a pm to the op so it could be reposted.
Shortly after I removed the post, it was reposted without the reference to another club and the post stayed. This is how it is supposed to work.
The event was paramount, not the club. The event was posted, promoted, and publicized. The event is for a great cause. I'm glad you donated your time and money. The end result was that the event for a great cause was posted on GATR, which is exactly what you wanted.
It is not like a Crawling for Reid post that has no club affiliations. Yes the 2 champions are members here and most of the volunteers are from GATR, but CFR is independent of any club. I think the CFR staff has been very wise and purposeful about keeping it independent from any one club and promoting to all without a club affiliation.
The rule I know about is not posting other rides if there is a scheduled ride. If I missed a rule that pertains to this sisuation then I'm sorry. I was told in person that their post had been deleted. No other info. That event has no club affliliation either. It was started by some vets down in Panama city Beach called Son Of a Jeep. Much like this place helps with Reid.
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Tripp is correct, my post was deleted. I wasn't given a reason why. I just figured it was over hurt feelings from the split years ago.
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I've had posts deleted without ever knowing the reason. Tell me why. so I don't do it again.
I joined Gatr as a newb to wheeling, best thing I could have done. I had never heard of "tread lightly", always thought keeps were over rated and over priced, had. No idea what a Rubicon was. Now I know more about Jeeps than some Jeep owners ( my buddy) and I do t even own a Jeep! I drive a longbed Chevy, know my limitations, have been on a few FS rides, Morris Mountain, and Beasley Knob with Gatr. Had a blast even with my wrong everything truck!
I have learned so much about wheelin from this group, to be honest, by mostly being active in the forum, reading asking "stupid" questions and offering my 2 cents every once in a while.
Plan on going to Gatrfest and Gulches, hopefully I'll have a rear locker by then (Wrench day?)
I see people on The Gatr Facebook site that have never been to the Gatr forum, I think they are missing out, but don't know they are missing out. I also think the FB site takes away from the Gatr forum. Just my opinion.
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Face what? LOL
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Some of the main reason why post get deleted......
To much clutter say in a check in sheet instead
of a discussion thread. When post start going way
off of the main subject. When people start bashing
on or giving advice or opinions on a for sale item.
When a thread or comments really gets ugly or
crosses the line so to speak. I also like keeping the
POTM contest cleaned up and I will not let pictures
of things like flops, flips, roll overs, being stuck, or
having to be truly winched to clear an obstacle make
the calendar....
The calendar represents the best of GaTrailRiders.
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Some of the main reason why post get deleted......
To much clutter say in a check in sheet instead
of a discussion thread. When post start going way
off of the main subject. When people start bashing
on or giving advice or opinions on a for sale item.
When a thread or comments really gets ugly or
crosses the line so to speak. I also like keeping the
POTM contest cleaned up and I will not let pictures
of things like flops, flips, roll overs, being stuck, or
having to be truly winched to clear an obstacle make
the calendar....
The calendar represents the best of GaTrailRiders.
It seems like some people are checked more than others (others get away with more is what I mean). There are some of those holy than thou post. John G does a very good job of posting in public when things need to be straighted up on hardline. It helps everyone see what's good and what's not. A lot times its good to let members regulate each other. I have been told in person by a member they don't post / visit much anymore becuase of some things.
Now Kevin, we go back a ways so this isn't directed at you. I'm just quoting off your post. I do a lot of reading, more than posting and that goes for about every forum.
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Some of the main reasons why I delete post are......
To much clutter say in a check in sheet instead
of a discussion thread. When post start going way
off of the main subject. When people start bashing
on or giving advice or opinions on a for sale item.
When a thread or comments really gets ugly or
crosses the line so to speak. I also like keeping the
POTM contest cleaned up and I will not let pictures
of things like flops, flips, roll overs, being stuck, or
having to be truly winched to clear an obstacle make
the calendar....
The calendar represents the best of GaTrailRiders.
It seems like some people are checked more than others (others get away with more is what I mean). There are some of those holy than thou post. John G does a very good job of posting in public when things need to be straighted up on hardline. It helps everyone see what's good and what's not. A lot times its good to let members regulate each other. I have been told in person by a member they don't post / visit much anymore becuase of some things.
Now Kevin, we go back a ways so this isn't directed at you. I'm just quoting off your post. I do a lot of reading, more than posting and that goes for about every forum.
Tripp I change my comment to clarify reasons "I" delete
Also right or wrong some people are just more of a ass hole than others
We all can be sometimes...each and everyone of us
At least we're not all democrats...thank God
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Sometimes the forum website/back-end screws up and side posts are lost.
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I too have come back and my post is not there but I always think the post didn't take, not that someone deleted it. Ben probably did it
I do very little mod work anymore. I rarely ever have to delete or modify anything, extremely rare. Some of our mods won't do anything that might offend someone, so we all look to Kevin to handle it now, except after 7pm lmao. If a post attacks someone personally, except Clark or Kent, or says they are asking way to much for their parts, trolls a sale ad, etc, it gets cleaned up.
GATR is definitely not for everyone. GATR has evolved to an excellent place and is all about supporting each other, sharing info and fellowship. Don't want to be like hardline or Pirate, but those are cool too.
Opinions are far and wide here on a lot of stuff and all opinions are welcome. Knowledge is extremely welcome here. Please share and help us all.
What started this thread? Kevin, oh yeah.
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Flips. Flops, rollovers, winched, or being stuck, now allowed for POTM. Now I know.
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^^ not to be confused with flip flops, those are allowed.
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^^ not to be confused with flip flops, those are allowed.
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And just remember to always wear a shirt.
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^^ not to be confused with flip flops, those are allowed.
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And just remember to always wear a shirt.
Haha
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This is the reason there are more than one club in the world. I have left other clubs because of bashing and hurt feelings (some my own), but IMHO if the coolaid aint for you, dont drink it. its that simple. Same reason most of us dont jump on Hardline and Pirate and act like we know all.
I know the forums are what keep the clubs together, but the rides are where we all have to put our money where our mouth is and just enjoy being out of work ..
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I know the forums are what keep the clubs together, but the rides are where we all have to put our money where our mouth is and just enjoy being out of work ..
Damn straight
Everyone get to Hale next weekend! Time to wheel a KILLER park
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I'm excited about Hale.. . never been so it will be exciting
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Wish I had a jeep! Want to see Hale.
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I've only been once and this is killing me
that I will miss it but camping in the Mtn's
with family comes first always.
Have to see what Doc says about riding
in August??
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I love hale. Lots to do.
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Wish I had a jeep! Want to see Hale.
I've only been once and this is killing me
that I will miss it but camping in the Mtn's
with family comes first always.
Have to see what Doc says about riding
in August??
Take Kevin's!
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Awfully liberal of you to offer my Jeep to someone..... //WTF//
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Awfully liberal of you to offer my Jeep to someone..... //WTF//
:) I wasn't sure how you'd react...I expected you to follow Justin's lead and threaten to throw a rock at my big stupid head.
It's easy to offer someone else's stuff. I figure, it really isn't going to matter...it's summer, so Doug won't wheel unless it's in Moab, even with someone else's rig.
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..it's summer, so Doug won't wheel unless it's in Moab, even with someone else's rig.
thats too funny
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Awfully liberal of you to offer my Jeep to someone..... //WTF//
:) I wasn't sure how you'd react...I expected you to follow Justin's lead and threaten to throw a rock at my big stupid head.
It's easy to offer someone else's stuff. I figure, it really isn't going to matter...it's summer, so Doug won't wheel unless it's in Moab, even with someone else's rig.
I just can't throw right now anyway...... //nlnnn//
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Without going thru 5 pages of posts I will throw this in the mix... only a small handful of people here remember the days where we had a large group of trash mouthed redneck douche bags running this club into the ground. At times I almost ditched the club as it was a daily battle dealing with those morons. Rides were spent fixing rigs and trail recoveries and watching people drink all day on the trail to later become belligerent asshats. The club changed hands and Danny took over. We cleaned house 100% and ran them out and now we have the #1 club in the state IMO. Thanks to Danny, the staff and all the quality people in this group! Good people are the reason we are #1! I am VERY proud to be a part of this crew and all we stand for!
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I ended up by chance joining a large group of Jeeps in driving in the July 4 parade in Cumming. I found out that the were a combination of members of NGJ and a new club, Forsyth County (FOCO) Jeepers. FOCO is mainly a FB group apparently, but they have a monthly meetup and do some easy rides (apparently Sheep Wallow quite a bit).
The Jeeps in the parade covered quite a variety from an older CJ to a couple of 4-door JKs. I did see a good number with winch bumpers and light bars, but I got the impression that the social aspect is more important than wheeling. One couple I talked to had a brand new Rubicon and had been to AOP, but only drove on the access roads.
In my view groups that love Jeeps and socialize around them make for fine clubs, and not sponsoring club rides doesn't mean they're dead.
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Its summer, so Doug won't wheel unless it's in Moab,
Whose rig? Johns? Hell yeah I would, wait is got a 3rd pedal.
It's hard not to spend every minute I am breathing at this spot, especially in the summer.
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Whose rig? Johns? Hell yeah I would, wait is got a 3rd pedal.
I'll have an open seat... I'm still trying to figure out what that 3rd pedal is for...
It's hard not to spend every minute I am breathing at this spot, especially in the summer.
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I don't blame you, very nice spot.
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It's a dump... don't let him fool you ;)
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I think I'll be solo too. Not 100% though.
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Its summer, so Doug won't wheel unless it's in Moab,
Whose rig? Johns? Hell yeah I would, wait is got a 3rd pedal.
It's hard not to spend every minute I am breathing at this spot, especially in the summer.
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I was picking on you, of course, but I understand.
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Kick ass club imo. We have a great staff AND great members.
This club wouldn't be crap without both. I know from a behind the scenes perspective that our staff works their ass off and it shows. Our rides are always organized and safe and the forum is always a pleasure.
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only a small handful of people here remember the days where we had a large group of trash mouthed redneck douche bags running this club into the ground.
I caught the tail end of that entire situation. I certainly wouldn't have lasted long if things hadn't changed...
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only a small handful of people here remember the days where we had a large group of trash mouthed redneck douche bags running this club into the ground.
I caught the tail end of that entire situation. I certainly wouldn't have lasted long if things hadn't changed...
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I've been a member from the very beginning when Matt had his Durango and Adam had his first jeep. Wow how time flies!
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only a small handful of people here remember the days where we had a large group of trash mouthed redneck douche bags running this club into the ground.
I caught the tail end of that entire situation. I certainly wouldn't have lasted long if things hadn't changed...
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I've been a member from the very beginning when Matt had his Durango and Adam had his first jeep. Wow how time flies!
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You might be the only one
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only a small handful of people here remember the days where we had a large group of trash mouthed redneck douche bags running this club into the ground.
I caught the tail end of that entire situation. I certainly wouldn't have lasted long if things hadn't changed...
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I've been a member from the very beginning when Matt had his Durango and Adam had his first jeep. Wow how time flies!
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Didn't even think you was old enough......LOL
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Its summer, so Doug won't wheel unless it's in Moab,
Whose rig? Johns? Hell yeah I would, wait is got a 3rd pedal.
It's hard not to spend every minute I am breathing at this spot, especially in the summer.
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Nice place Doug, I would not want to leave.
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I ended up by chance joining a large group of Jeeps in driving in the July 4 parade in Cumming. I found out that the were a combination of members of NGJ and a new club, Forsyth County (FOCO) Jeepers. FOCO is mainly a FB group apparently, but they have a monthly meetup and do some easy rides (apparently xxxxx xxxxxx quite a bit).
The Jeeps in the parade covered quite a variety from an older CJ to a couple of 4-door JKs. I did see a good number with winch bumpers and light bars, but I got the impression that the social aspect is more important than wheeling. One couple I talked to had a brand new Rubicon and had been to AOP, but only drove on the access roads.
In my view groups that love Jeeps and socialize around them make for fine clubs, and not sponsoring club rides doesn't mean they're dead.
The FOCO FB group is a pretty good group of people. Not a lot of hard core wheelers but nothing like the "other" large FB group. I go to the Meet and Greets when I can as it's 5 minutes from the house and I have a few friends that go. And yes there is a subset that goes to the unspoken place a lot.
With that said, Kirk you made their FB page :)
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Way to represent Kirk. not sure about the smile, it appears u have to use the potty really really bad... just what it appears. but glad u had fun. ;) lol
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not sure about the smile, it appears u have to use the potty really really bad...
fearful excitement is what I read from the smile!
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I read a dump... but whatever.
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prairie dogging //LMAO//
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prairie dogging //LMAO//
Thread is going down fast. ;)
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only a small handful of people here remember the days where we had a large group of trash mouthed redneck douche bags running this club into the ground.
I caught the tail end of that entire situation. I certainly wouldn't have lasted long if things hadn't changed...
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I've been a member from the very beginning when Matt had his Durango and Adam had his first jeep. Wow how time flies!
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You might be the only one
If you go to the members tab at the top and sort by Date registered you can see who's original... looks like I'm number 4 and the oldest member still active...
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Your to blame Kent.
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Your to blame Kent.
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im sure i am, but im still in Club Jail, how did clark get out? im all alone now. dam..
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If you're not GATR, you're not shit.