AR newbie

[DOUG]

Fires same rounds, does the job

[cru9]

Just not as Tacticalcool

[kent10sne1]

So maybe I should do this deal I could add a scope and still be in budget?  What do u thing. How is the quality? 

I dont want to get this if the quality is sub par.   is my only concern.   would love to get with your guy on building one ,so i get good/quality parts , like upgraded barrel, or other items.    does your guy work at the cherokee gun place or is he independent?

[DOUG]

Just not as Tacticalcool

Tacticool?

[DOUG]

So maybe I should do this deal I could add a scope and still be in budget?  What do u thing. How is the quality? 

I dont want to get this if the quality is sub par.   is my only concern.   would love to get with your guy on building one ,so i get good/quality parts , like upgraded barrel, or other items.    does your guy work at the cherokee gun place or is he independent?

You can spend more on the scope than the gun. I haven't looked in years.  Have they come down any?

[DOUG]

Like the scope on the 338 we shoot 1000 yards.

[SemperFiArms]

Kent, the best way to explain the 5.56mm/.223 is to think .357mag and .38 spl. The chamber pressure for the 5.56 is between 55,000 and 60,000 psi where the .223 is around 45,000 psi. You can fire the .223 and 5.56 out of the 5.56 chamber while it would be unsafe to shoot the 5.56 out of the .223 chamber.

I am a certified armorer on the M16/AR15 rifles as well as a licensed manufacture. I haven't been building many since I came back from asscrapistan 2 years ago but if you are local to the Woodstock/Canton area I would love to sit down with you and teach you how to put them together. Two to three hours and you can know most of the basics of the rifle, including how to handle most field repairs if something were to happen.

The lowers can be assembled with basic tools, most of which you probably have in your Jeeps tool kit. It's the uppers that really require the special tools.

[kent10sne1]

Kent, the best way to explain the 5.56mm/.223 is to think .357mag and .38 spl. The chamber pressure for the 5.56 is between 55,000 and 60,000 psi where the .223 is around 45,000 psi. You can fire the .223 and 5.56 out of the 5.56 chamber while it would be unsafe to shoot the 5.56 out of the .223 chamber.

I am a certified armorer on the M16/AR15 rifles as well as a licensed manufacture. I haven't been building many since I came back from asscrapistan 2 years ago but if you are local to the Woodstock/Canton area I would love to sit down with you and teach you how to put them together. Two to three hours and you can know most of the basics of the rifle, including how to handle most field repairs if something were to happen.

The lowers can be assembled with basic tools, most of which you probably have in your Jeeps tool kit. It's the uppers that really require the special tools.

Thanks.   I'm in snellville  and am still wondering if i should take the 499 deal as a starter, maybe tweek it some with a scope or better flip sights... for now.   until i understand and learn more.   i dont have the skill to assemble one, but i dont mind paying someone to do that for me..   i also dont have the skill to know/buy all the parts needed!   i have a look i want, but my concern is quality and not wanting to toss 499 into the can.   

For me, its less about the look and more about sound quality , something that will last, wont let me down when needed and has the power to do what i want.

example.   buy the 499 , but upgrade the barrel to something of better, upgrade the sights to better flip sights or add a scope for a few hundered bucks..   the other thing is i dont know what other parts on the 499 would be a smart upgrade .. not so much for looks but for quality...   a fear i have is taking something like the list bobby gave on parts..  and once its all together take it to someone and get told, the parts wont work together or im missing stuff. 

sorry for the ramble..  I am still looking at the 499 because its thru Cherokee Gun and Pawn, Canton where i got my two 38's and Bobby trusts them, and that goes a long way .. in my book..  they seem to be a quality honest outfit.  so i would hope they would not offer a deal thats sub-par...     

any advice/you can offer is greatly helpful.  and now that I know you have a super power. .   about guns.  I shall be bugging the piss out of you about these matters.   thanks again.   and I may take u up on that offer.  alwasy looking to learn...

[kent10sne1]

To add to my above post.  found this site on the internet.  very interesting read, seems to spell it out, just would prefer someone with more knowledge to work with me in getting it all together.. .
http://thearmsguide.com/2905/how-to-build-an-ar-15-beginners-guide-part-one/

[cru9]

Kent the one I posted above has a fixed front site so you would only need a rear sight. If your not happy with the looks or are already thinking upgrade don't buy it build one. You need to tell me what you would want to up grade on it. Buying sights and scopes aren't upgrades. Upgrades would be different rail like a quard rail, Changing stock , better trigger. Most people that buy a rifle off a shelf and upgrade it spend more money when you compare apples to apples at the end.

[cru9]

Cherokee is selling that rifle as a price point sale. It is basic entry level AR. Like I said last night it's all about the bells and whistles you want

[kent10sne1]

Well, i would like a better quality barrel..  that will fire both .223 and 5.56, i would like a stock that has a few settings.. something tight, and then maybe a way to pull it out with some adjustability.    I dont know triggers or what an upgrade would be, I would like to have the guard rail maybe a bit longer than whats on that .   I am also thinking about 18 inch vs 16.   as i like the longer barrel . . i want to stick with 1/7 twist.  i did research what that ment..  ..  not sure how important the lowers are from whats on the specal vs picking something with better quality.   

as far as looks.   main things im looking for.  adjustable stock, larger rail but not totally covering the barrel, 18 inch barrel that fires .223 and 5.56 thats good quality.   

did that help?